My favorite release is probably the Barely Real EP, but it's hard to pick favorites.
― gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 17 September 2004 14:05 (twenty years ago) link
My favorite songs are Pea, Smoking Room, Tom, Kitchen Light and Cigarette Machine. I don't have Barely Real yet, but I often look for it while record shopping.
― Ian c=====8 (orion), Friday, 17 September 2004 14:07 (twenty years ago) link
Codeine is VERY VERY great.
the artwork for Barely Real is CHOICE.
― ddb (ddb), Friday, 17 September 2004 14:09 (twenty years ago) link
― adam. (nordicskilla), Friday, 17 September 2004 14:41 (twenty years ago) link
― Ian c=====8 (orion), Friday, 17 September 2004 14:42 (twenty years ago) link
― ddb (ddb), Friday, 17 September 2004 14:49 (twenty years ago) link
― the surface noise (slight return) (electricsound), Thursday, 23 September 2004 05:40 (twenty years ago) link
― gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 23 September 2004 05:46 (twenty years ago) link
― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 23 September 2004 13:04 (twenty years ago) link
― Ian c=====8 (orion), Thursday, 23 September 2004 14:50 (twenty years ago) link
― jel -- (jel), Thursday, 23 September 2004 16:45 (twenty years ago) link
THREW MY BIKE OFF THE ROAD
that's my flavorite
― cutty (mcutt), Thursday, 23 September 2004 16:48 (twenty years ago) link
― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 23 September 2004 16:49 (twenty years ago) link
what is the song where he sings:
"i...under...stand"
but it takes him 39 seconds to say it all? awesome.
― gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 23 September 2004 16:50 (twenty years ago) link
― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 23 September 2004 16:52 (twenty years ago) link
probably tho...at t goes to infinity, codeine goes to zero and:
(tequila x 7) = ouchie.
where drinker = msp.m.
― msp (msp), Thursday, 23 September 2004 16:52 (twenty years ago) link
― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 23 September 2004 16:54 (twenty years ago) link
there's a SEAM single called "granny 9x" where soo young sings:
"i threw my bike in the river/watched it sink into the night"...
???
there is way too much crossover between SEAM and CODEINE
― gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 23 September 2004 16:55 (twenty years ago) link
so far:
jr.granny 9xthis charming man
― cutty (mcutt), Thursday, 23 September 2004 16:58 (twenty years ago) link
― Holly (an appletross), Thursday, 23 September 2004 16:59 (twenty years ago) link
1993 Following a foray to the West Coast with Josh, the band went through the process of auditioning a full-time drummer. "It was like stepping on kittens," says John. "It was really hard watching them try to play at our speed." Finally, Douglas Scharin was found. The band then moved to Louisville, Kentucky for the summer to break Doug in and prepare for the band's first extensive U.S. tour. "There's definitely something in the water there," says Stephen about Louisville. "There's a fine music scene, and both the people and rent are much kinder than in New York." After a Midwest and East Coast tour, the band recorded the "Tom" single in Chicago, aided by the guitar work of the delightful Mr. Grubbs (now of Gastr del Sol). In the fall the band returned to New York, did additional touring with Mazzy Star and the Grifters, and finally completed their new album, The White Birch.
1994 Compared to the group's first record, The White Birch's sound is drier and more organic, with sung vocals (as opposed to the more "spoken-word" delivery of Frigid Stars LP). But the overall impact and effect remain just as powerful, thanks to the production work of Mike McMackin (who has engineered and co-produced almost all of the band's work to date). Trying to understand the enormity of experience, feeling lost or sensing it in others, betrayal - these are some of the themes that run through The White Birch.
Following the release of The White Birch on April 4, 1994, the band toured the UK and Europe with label-mates The Spinanes. In July, Codeine played a week of dates on the West Coast. The group's last show of the tour, in Santa Rosa, CA, ended up being their final performance.
― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 23 September 2004 17:00 (twenty years ago) link
― gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 23 September 2004 17:01 (twenty years ago) link
― kephm (kephm), Thursday, 23 September 2004 17:05 (twenty years ago) link
― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 23 September 2004 17:08 (twenty years ago) link
― why do old people and old users of ILX such bastardos (deangulberry), Thursday, 23 September 2004 17:08 (twenty years ago) link
― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 23 September 2004 17:09 (twenty years ago) link
― kephm (kephm), Thursday, 23 September 2004 17:10 (twenty years ago) link
xthread
― cutty (mcutt), Thursday, 23 September 2004 17:14 (twenty years ago) link
― gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 23 September 2004 17:19 (twenty years ago) link
― cutty (mcutt), Thursday, 23 September 2004 17:20 (twenty years ago) link
HI LOOK AT MY LONG HAIR AND BEARD AND SPARKLE CUM SHIRT. I AM A TRUE DOOSHBAG.
― cutty (mcutt), Thursday, 23 September 2004 17:22 (twenty years ago) link
― gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 23 September 2004 17:25 (twenty years ago) link
― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 23 September 2004 18:59 (twenty years ago) link
― cutty (mcutt), Thursday, 23 September 2004 19:04 (twenty years ago) link
― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 23 September 2004 19:04 (twenty years ago) link
and i'll moderelatize you too pumpkin!
― cutty (mcutt), Thursday, 23 September 2004 19:06 (twenty years ago) link
― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 23 September 2004 19:06 (twenty years ago) link
― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 23 September 2004 19:07 (twenty years ago) link
― cutty (mcutt), Thursday, 23 September 2004 19:07 (twenty years ago) link
― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 23 September 2004 19:08 (twenty years ago) link
― ddb (ddb), Thursday, 23 September 2004 19:08 (twenty years ago) link
― cutty (mcutt), Thursday, 23 September 2004 19:09 (twenty years ago) link
(i blame the pixels really.)
― msp (msp), Thursday, 23 September 2004 19:10 (twenty years ago) link
― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 23 September 2004 19:10 (twenty years ago) link
― cutty (mcutt), Thursday, 23 September 2004 19:11 (twenty years ago) link
― tokyo rosemary (rosemary), Friday, 24 September 2004 02:02 (twenty years ago) link
― gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 30 September 2004 01:25 (twenty years ago) link
― Ian c=====8 (orion), Thursday, 30 September 2004 01:34 (twenty years ago) link
― gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 30 September 2004 01:37 (twenty years ago) link
― cutty (mcutt), Thursday, 30 September 2004 01:38 (twenty years ago) link
― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 30 September 2004 02:21 (twenty years ago) link
― gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 30 September 2004 20:45 (twenty years ago) link
― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 30 September 2004 21:34 (twenty years ago) link
― gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 1 October 2004 14:56 (twenty years ago) link
― gygax! (gygax!), Sunday, 24 October 2004 05:06 (twenty years ago) link
― Ian John50n (orion), Saturday, 30 October 2004 19:27 (twenty years ago) link
Afflicted by diseaseThey are so weak
I'll throw sand in your eyeYou need a reason to cryI'll throw sand in your eyeI need a reason to smile
I went to school to learnBut it didn't work
How do you learn to tryWhy can't I?
― Ian John50n (orion), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 20:18 (nineteen years ago) link
― hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 20:21 (nineteen years ago) link
Subquestion for hstencil and possibly Drew... what is the style of composition/school of theory/(predecessors?) for "W"? Because once it's converted into a rock quartet (LG/RG/B/D) it becomes very SLINT sounding.
Dudebros,Steve Shasta
― Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Friday, 27 January 2006 17:34 (eighteen years ago) link
did you know that ian johnson accidentally dialed steve immerwahr with my phone the other day? no lie.
as for "w" maybe morton feldman or somebody like that? dunno.
best,
h
― hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 27 January 2006 17:56 (eighteen years ago) link
Steve Shasta
― Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Friday, 27 January 2006 18:03 (eighteen years ago) link
best
Drew
― Drew Daniel (Drew Daniel), Saturday, 28 January 2006 02:01 (eighteen years ago) link
Listening to "W" now. It just sounds like a transcription of catchy, melancholic indie rock guitar parts for piano. I don't hear the space or scale of a Feldman or Wolff New York school contemporary classical piece here. It has me wondering what General MIDI files of Codeine songs would sound like. It's rad, no denying that, and it's a ballsy move, but aside from the oddity of the instrumental choice, as a tune it's got the Codeine-ish fingerprints (a good thing). Do you hear Grubbs quietly humming along in certain places? I think I do, but I might just be going into my crazy place.
― Drew Daniel (Drew Daniel), Saturday, 28 January 2006 02:16 (eighteen years ago) link
I KISS YOU.
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Saturday, 28 January 2006 04:34 (eighteen years ago) link
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Saturday, 28 January 2006 04:36 (eighteen years ago) link
― Child O' Peelie (nordicskilla), Saturday, 28 January 2006 04:37 (eighteen years ago) link
Drew went to Oxford! =0
― Serge Protecteur (nordicskilla), Saturday, 28 January 2006 04:38 (eighteen years ago) link
― ziti sanskrit (sanskrit), Saturday, 28 January 2006 13:06 (eighteen years ago) link
― Drew Daniel (Drew Daniel), Saturday, 28 January 2006 18:49 (eighteen years ago) link
― Serge Protecteur (nordicskilla), Saturday, 28 January 2006 19:35 (eighteen years ago) link
Listen to "W" and then "WIRD" (off of The White Birch). Grubbs plays lead guitar on "WIRD", essentially transcribing his "catchy, melancholic indie rock" piano parts for guitar while Codeine (at this ponit based in Louisville) go for full-on Spiderland mode.
Tim,
At my friend's wedding, I sat at a table with Frank Kozik and Blag Dahlia (neither were invited but were dates of two of the bridesmaids). Blag was very nice and conversant but Frank was just way too cool.
― Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Monday, 30 January 2006 17:33 (eighteen years ago) link
dude, steve, they were only there for like part of a summer. they were never really "based" in louisville, and i'm pretty sure "the white birch" was recorded elsewhere (don't have it handy).
― hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 30 January 2006 17:47 (eighteen years ago) link
― Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Monday, 30 January 2006 18:07 (eighteen years ago) link
― hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 30 January 2006 18:18 (eighteen years ago) link
Steve, I will listen and think about the differences between those songs. On the gneral subject of Codeine The Band, I went through a period while studying at Oxford and living in a single unit dorm room of listening to the "Barely Real" EP in a ritualized state and staring at the wall and doing nothing in a state of catatonic arrest at least once a day. It induced a state that John Cassian, writing to fourth century monks in his classic religious text "The Institutes" referred to as acedia, a state of melancholic contemplative arrest, described in the ninetieth psalm as "the noonday demon", a mood in which nothing seems possible, nothing seems worth doing, and yet everything is suffused with a kind of crushing, beautiful sublimity.
― Drew Daniel (Drew Daniel), Saturday, January 28, 2006 2:01 AM (3 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban PermalinkSteve-
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^^^^^^***BOOMING POSTS***
i don't think cigarete machine is a favorite now tbh.
― ian, Friday, 1 January 2010 02:13 (fourteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmLmcO80kEY
― ┌∩┐(◕_◕)┌∩┐ (Steve Shasta), Sunday, 3 January 2010 08:27 (fourteen years ago) link
^^^
― sir ilx-a-lot (cutty), Sunday, 3 January 2010 12:17 (fourteen years ago) link
I checked into that Codeine state of mind again last week with "Barely Real" and "The White Birch" played in sequence. I think "Barely Real" is my favorite record of theirs still, and I'm glad that when I listen to it I am not just listening in order to feel nostalgic about the first time I listened to it. I still can hear the record and not just the mushy-inner-home-movie it triggers. But it was weird that I would just light a candle and stare into the flame and do nothing while that record played. Like church or something.
― twice boiled cabbage is death, Sunday, 3 January 2010 18:44 (fourteen years ago) link
back: http://www.atpfestival.com/events/ibymlondon2012.php
― Jamie_ATP, Wednesday, 9 November 2011 16:05 (thirteen years ago) link
Would be pretty weird seeing them in front of any sort of sizeable crowd. That said, good luck Codeine!
― Lars and the Lulu Girl (NickB), Wednesday, 9 November 2011 16:18 (thirteen years ago) link
I love this thread btw.
― Lars and the Lulu Girl (NickB), Wednesday, 9 November 2011 16:20 (thirteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_3qhH5OerA
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 26 April 2013 06:09 (eleven years ago) link
Most perfect discography ever?
― Mule, Thursday, 8 August 2013 22:35 (eleven years ago) link
y
― kraudive, Monday, 29 September 2014 17:11 (ten years ago) link
Anyone catching this round of shows? So psyched (yet equally bummed we don't get BManning as opener).
I missed their last reunion... strangely found out about it at an A's game. As I'm shuffling to my seat I notice the guy next to me was wearing a shirt of theirs and I was like "My man, that was my favorite band in 1991" and he replied "Dude, they played last night at [insert local club here]... you blew it!" haha.
― citation needed (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 9 November 2023 23:57 (one year ago) link
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― citation needed (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 6 December 2023 17:58 (one year ago) link