CODEINE THE BAND

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Heard the Joy Division cover "Atmosphere" on my way into work today, i particularly enjoyed the way the lyrics are twisted from the original.

My favorite release is probably the Barely Real EP, but it's hard to pick favorites.

gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 17 September 2004 14:05 (nineteen years ago) link

Best band on Sub-Pop EVER.

My favorite songs are Pea, Smoking Room, Tom, Kitchen Light and Cigarette Machine. I don't have Barely Real yet, but I often look for it while record shopping.

Ian c=====8 (orion), Friday, 17 September 2004 14:07 (nineteen years ago) link

TEH DWARVES were the best band on SUB POOP.

Codeine is VERY VERY great.

the artwork for Barely Real is CHOICE.

ddb (ddb), Friday, 17 September 2004 14:09 (nineteen years ago) link

haha I was listening to barely Real just the other day. I love the artwork.

adam. (nordicskilla), Friday, 17 September 2004 14:41 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm gonna make NICOLE get me BARELY REAL for free from INSOUNDDOTCOM.

Ian c=====8 (orion), Friday, 17 September 2004 14:42 (nineteen years ago) link

EEK!

ddb (ddb), Friday, 17 September 2004 14:49 (nineteen years ago) link

white birch is an awesome album. especially the drumming.

the surface noise (slight return) (electricsound), Thursday, 23 September 2004 05:40 (nineteen years ago) link

i love "broken hearted wine" peel session version if you can find that.

gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 23 September 2004 05:46 (nineteen years ago) link

you talking 'bout that one b-side? Fantastic.

hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 23 September 2004 13:04 (nineteen years ago) link

i listened to white birch last night in bed. i made myself stay awake so i could hear "smoking room." that song is teh jam.

Ian c=====8 (orion), Thursday, 23 September 2004 14:50 (nineteen years ago) link

I like barely real. I haven't heard the white birch in ages. What about frigid stars?

jel -- (jel), Thursday, 23 September 2004 16:45 (nineteen years ago) link

what's that codeine song where he's like..

THREW MY BIKE OFF THE ROAD

that's my flavorite

cutty (mcutt), Thursday, 23 September 2004 16:48 (nineteen years ago) link

AND LIE IN THE GRASS. "Jr," 2nd track on "Barely Real."

hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 23 September 2004 16:49 (nineteen years ago) link

the 7" version of TOM is wild.

what is the song where he sings:

"i...
under...
stand"

but it takes him 39 seconds to say it all? awesome.

gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 23 September 2004 16:50 (nineteen years ago) link

that's "Sea" off "The White Birch."

hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 23 September 2004 16:52 (nineteen years ago) link

liked 'em live... had a bad xp with their cd music playing at a party... codeine + (tequila x 7) = ouchie.

probably tho...at t goes to infinity, codeine goes to zero and:

(tequila x 7) = ouchie.

where drinker = msp.
m.

msp (msp), Thursday, 23 September 2004 16:52 (nineteen years ago) link

I am teh world's biggest Codeine fan. Seriously.

hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 23 September 2004 16:54 (nineteen years ago) link

CuTtY:

there's a SEAM single called "granny 9x" where soo young sings:

"i threw my bike in the river/
watched it sink into the night"...

???

there is way too much crossover between SEAM and CODEINE

gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 23 September 2004 16:55 (nineteen years ago) link

i need to make a mix of songs that do not have bike in the title but mention bikes.

so far:

jr.
granny 9x
this charming man

cutty (mcutt), Thursday, 23 September 2004 16:58 (nineteen years ago) link

fat bottomed girls by queen =D

Holly (an appletross), Thursday, 23 September 2004 16:59 (nineteen years ago) link

1989-92 The seeds of the New York band Codeine were sewn in 1989 when John Engle and Stephen Immerwahr recorded a tortuous, 9-minute version of the Harry Nilsson classic "Without You." With help from friends Bitch Magnet, the German label Glitterhouse signed the band in 1990. They in turn convinced Sub Pop to branch out from the Northwest and grunge and sign the band. Codeine's first release Frigid Stars LP, recorded in a basement on an 8-track, came in the spring of 1991. In the fall the band toured Europe with friends Bastro. In 1992 the mini-album Barely Real was released, featuring the piano work of David Grubbs (Bastro) and a cover of MX-80 Sound's "Promise of Love." Having finally lost drummer Chris Brokaw to the band Come, Codeine enlisted the aid of Josh Madell (drummer of New York's Antietam) for a second tour of Europe that fall.

1993 Following a foray to the West Coast with Josh, the band went through the process of auditioning a full-time drummer. "It was like stepping on kittens," says John. "It was really hard watching them try to play at our speed." Finally, Douglas Scharin was found. The band then moved to Louisville, Kentucky for the summer to break Doug in and prepare for the band's first extensive U.S. tour. "There's definitely something in the water there," says Stephen about Louisville. "There's a fine music scene, and both the people and rent are much kinder than in New York."

After a Midwest and East Coast tour, the band recorded the "Tom" single in Chicago, aided by the guitar work of the delightful Mr. Grubbs (now of Gastr del Sol). In the fall the band returned to New York, did additional touring with Mazzy Star and the Grifters, and finally completed their new album, The White Birch.

1994 Compared to the group's first record, The White Birch's sound is drier and more organic, with sung vocals (as opposed to the more "spoken-word" delivery of Frigid Stars LP). But the overall impact and effect remain just as powerful, thanks to the production work of Mike McMackin (who has engineered and co-produced almost all of the band's work to date). Trying to understand the enormity of experience, feeling lost or sensing it in others, betrayal - these are some of the themes that run through The White Birch.

Following the release of The White Birch on April 4, 1994, the band toured the UK and Europe with label-mates The Spinanes. In July, Codeine played a week of dates on the West Coast. The group's last show of the tour, in Santa Rosa, CA, ended up being their final performance.

hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 23 September 2004 17:00 (nineteen years ago) link

SANTA ROSA = AARONHZ HOLLA 707 YO

gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 23 September 2004 17:01 (nineteen years ago) link

saw em live once, by accident really. i had forgotten the codeine-come-brokaw connection.

kephm (kephm), Thursday, 23 September 2004 17:05 (nineteen years ago) link

yeah, that summer in Louisville I ran into them all coming out of Guitar Emporium while I had my Come t-shirt on. D'oh!

hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 23 September 2004 17:08 (nineteen years ago) link

on your tshirt?

why do old people and old users of ILX such bastardos (deangulberry), Thursday, 23 September 2004 17:08 (nineteen years ago) link

a t-shirt for the band Come, wisenheimer.

hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 23 September 2004 17:09 (nineteen years ago) link

haha

kephm (kephm), Thursday, 23 September 2004 17:10 (nineteen years ago) link

C ON T'S!

xthread

cutty (mcutt), Thursday, 23 September 2004 17:14 (nineteen years ago) link

C on Tee's.

gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 23 September 2004 17:19 (nineteen years ago) link

http://www.parlorcity.com/secop/lev2.jpg

cutty (mcutt), Thursday, 23 September 2004 17:20 (nineteen years ago) link

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

HI LOOK AT MY LONG HAIR AND BEARD AND SPARKLE CUM SHIRT. I AM A TRUE DOOSHBAG.

cutty (mcutt), Thursday, 23 September 2004 17:22 (nineteen years ago) link

new weird folktronica

gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 23 September 2004 17:25 (nineteen years ago) link

that is not me. And it does not belong on this thread.

hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 23 September 2004 18:59 (nineteen years ago) link

sure it does, hsparkle motioncil

cutty (mcutt), Thursday, 23 September 2004 19:04 (nineteen years ago) link

you are cruising for some moderator action, buddy.

hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 23 September 2004 19:04 (nineteen years ago) link

i'm just SAYING IT BELONGS ON THIS THREAD. not having it here would be an egregrious error on your part.

and i'll moderelatize you too pumpkin!

cutty (mcutt), Thursday, 23 September 2004 19:06 (nineteen years ago) link

Mutually Assured Moderation

hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 23 September 2004 19:06 (nineteen years ago) link

or MAMs.

hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 23 September 2004 19:07 (nineteen years ago) link

I'M BLIND

cutty (mcutt), Thursday, 23 September 2004 19:07 (nineteen years ago) link

WHY DID YOU GAY UP THE THREAD ON MY FAVORITE BAND YOU JERK?

hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 23 September 2004 19:08 (nineteen years ago) link

THAT PIC IS EVIL ON SO MANY LEVELS.

ddb (ddb), Thursday, 23 September 2004 19:08 (nineteen years ago) link

BECAUSE THIS IS THE NOISE BOARD HSTENCIL THIS IS WHAT WE USED TO DO ON ILM/ILE AND WE WILL CONTINUE DOING IT HERE

cutty (mcutt), Thursday, 23 September 2004 19:09 (nineteen years ago) link

brown silly string beard action!
m.

(i blame the pixels really.)

msp (msp), Thursday, 23 September 2004 19:10 (nineteen years ago) link

you might have gayed up ILM/ILE, cutty, but I sure didn't.

hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 23 September 2004 19:10 (nineteen years ago) link

that's a doo doo beard

cutty (mcutt), Thursday, 23 September 2004 19:11 (nineteen years ago) link

hstencil, pls get a shirt like that okthxbye

tokyo rosemary (rosemary), Friday, 24 September 2004 02:02 (nineteen years ago) link

LISTENING TO: BARELY REAL

gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 30 September 2004 01:25 (nineteen years ago) link

i listened to the white birch on the bus in the rain yesterday and i wanted to die.

Ian c=====8 (orion), Thursday, 30 September 2004 01:34 (nineteen years ago) link

this is my favorite by far... i have this on 12" and CD!!!

gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 30 September 2004 01:37 (nineteen years ago) link

i love a barely real

cutty (mcutt), Thursday, 30 September 2004 01:38 (nineteen years ago) link

Stephen couldn't make it to birthday drinks last night. Damn hurricane.

hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 30 September 2004 02:21 (nineteen years ago) link

did john play a telecaster? i need to know.

gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 30 September 2004 20:45 (nineteen years ago) link

yes, I believe he did. My videographic evidence is at A. Licht's house, though.

hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 30 September 2004 21:34 (nineteen years ago) link

http://www.subpop.com/bands/codeine/codeine-207.gif

gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 1 October 2004 14:56 (nineteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...
telecast0rz 4eva

gygax! (gygax!), Sunday, 24 October 2004 05:06 (nineteen years ago) link

the picture on the back of Frigid Stars is the perfect description of Codeine's music. HELLO LIFE IS NOT WORTH LIVING LET'S COLLAPSE INTO BED AND BURY OUR FACES IN DIRTY LAUNDRY

Ian John50n (orion), Saturday, 30 October 2004 19:27 (nineteen years ago) link

four months pass...
My words have broken throats
Too ashamed to speak

Afflicted by disease
They are so weak

I'll throw sand in your eye
You need a reason to cry
I'll throw sand in your eye
I need a reason to smile

I went to school to learn
But it didn't work

How do you learn to try
Why can't I?

I'll throw sand in your eye
You need a reason to cry
I'll throw sand in your eye
I need a reason to smile

Ian John50n (orion), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 20:18 (nineteen years ago) link

godfuckingdammit, steve's lyrics wrexxx my shit every time. poor me.

hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 20:21 (nineteen years ago) link

ten months pass...
Taking sides: "W" off Barely Real vs. "WIRD" on The White Birch?

Subquestion for hstencil and possibly Drew... what is the style of composition/school of theory/(predecessors?) for "W"? Because once it's converted into a rock quartet (LG/RG/B/D) it becomes very SLINT sounding.

Dudebros,
Steve Shasta

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Friday, 27 January 2006 17:34 (eighteen years ago) link

Hey Steve Shasta,

did you know that ian johnson accidentally dialed steve immerwahr with my phone the other day? no lie.

as for "w" maybe morton feldman or somebody like that? dunno.

best,

h

hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 27 January 2006 17:56 (eighteen years ago) link

Fuck I love you,

Steve Shasta

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Friday, 27 January 2006 18:03 (eighteen years ago) link

Steve, I will listen and think about the differences between those songs. On the gneral subject of Codeine The Band, I went through a period while studying at Oxford and living in a single unit dorm room of listening to the "Barely Real" EP in a ritualized state and staring at the wall and doing nothing in a state of catatonic arrest at least once a day. It induced a state that John Cassian, writing to fourth century monks in his classic religious text "The Institutes" referred to as acedia, a state of melancholic contemplative arrest, described in the ninetieth psalm as "the noonday demon", a mood in which nothing seems possible, nothing seems worth doing, and yet everything is suffused with a kind of crushing, beautiful sublimity.

best

Drew

Drew Daniel (Drew Daniel), Saturday, 28 January 2006 02:01 (eighteen years ago) link

Steve-

Listening to "W" now. It just sounds like a transcription of catchy, melancholic indie rock guitar parts for piano. I don't hear the space or scale of a Feldman or Wolff New York school contemporary classical piece here. It has me wondering what General MIDI files of Codeine songs would sound like. It's rad, no denying that, and it's a ballsy move, but aside from the oddity of the instrumental choice, as a tune it's got the Codeine-ish fingerprints (a good thing). Do you hear Grubbs quietly humming along in certain places? I think I do, but I might just be going into my crazy place.

best

Drew

Drew Daniel (Drew Daniel), Saturday, 28 January 2006 02:16 (eighteen years ago) link

TEH DWARVES were the best band on SUB POOP.
-- ddb (stupidpum...), September 17th, 2004.

I KISS YOU.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Saturday, 28 January 2006 04:34 (eighteen years ago) link

Anyone wants ysi of a couple trax from Blag's excellent bluegrass album give me a holla.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Saturday, 28 January 2006 04:36 (eighteen years ago) link

I listen to Barely Real all the time.

Drew went to Oxford! =0

Serge Protecteur (nordicskilla), Saturday, 28 January 2006 04:38 (eighteen years ago) link

rhodes scholar?

ziti sanskrit (sanskrit), Saturday, 28 January 2006 13:06 (eighteen years ago) link

Close, I was a Marshall Scholar.

Drew Daniel (Drew Daniel), Saturday, 28 January 2006 18:49 (eighteen years ago) link

Which college?

Serge Protecteur (nordicskilla), Saturday, 28 January 2006 19:35 (eighteen years ago) link

Drew,

Listen to "W" and then "WIRD" (off of The White Birch). Grubbs plays lead guitar on "WIRD", essentially transcribing his "catchy, melancholic indie rock" piano parts for guitar while Codeine (at this ponit based in Louisville) go for full-on Spiderland mode.

Tim,

At my friend's wedding, I sat at a table with Frank Kozik and Blag Dahlia (neither were invited but were dates of two of the bridesmaids). Blag was very nice and conversant but Frank was just way too cool.

Steve Shasta

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Monday, 30 January 2006 17:33 (eighteen years ago) link

...Codeine (at this ponit based in Louisville)

dude, steve, they were only there for like part of a summer. they were never really "based" in louisville, and i'm pretty sure "the white birch" was recorded elsewhere (don't have it handy).

hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 30 January 2006 17:47 (eighteen years ago) link

Idful in Chicago (I think).

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Monday, 30 January 2006 18:07 (eighteen years ago) link

i think you're right, steve. i think dave was maybe living there already by that point? dunno.

hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 30 January 2006 18:18 (eighteen years ago) link

three years pass...

Steve, I will listen and think about the differences between those songs. On the gneral subject of Codeine The Band, I went through a period while studying at Oxford and living in a single unit dorm room of listening to the "Barely Real" EP in a ritualized state and staring at the wall and doing nothing in a state of catatonic arrest at least once a day. It induced a state that John Cassian, writing to fourth century monks in his classic religious text "The Institutes" referred to as acedia, a state of melancholic contemplative arrest, described in the ninetieth psalm as "the noonday demon", a mood in which nothing seems possible, nothing seems worth doing, and yet everything is suffused with a kind of crushing, beautiful sublimity.

best

Drew

― Drew Daniel (Drew Daniel), Saturday, January 28, 2006 2:01 AM (3 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
Steve-

Listening to "W" now. It just sounds like a transcription of catchy, melancholic indie rock guitar parts for piano. I don't hear the space or scale of a Feldman or Wolff New York school contemporary classical piece here. It has me wondering what General MIDI files of Codeine songs would sound like. It's rad, no denying that, and it's a ballsy move, but aside from the oddity of the instrumental choice, as a tune it's got the Codeine-ish fingerprints (a good thing). Do you hear Grubbs quietly humming along in certain places? I think I do, but I might just be going into my crazy place.

best

Drew

― Drew Daniel (Drew Daniel), Saturday, January 28, 2006 2:16 AM (3 years ago) Bookmark

^^^^^^
***BOOMING POSTS***

i don't think cigarete machine is a favorite now tbh.

ian, Friday, 1 January 2010 02:13 (fourteen years ago) link

^^^

sir ilx-a-lot (cutty), Sunday, 3 January 2010 12:17 (fourteen years ago) link

I checked into that Codeine state of mind again last week with "Barely Real" and "The White Birch" played in sequence. I think "Barely Real" is my favorite record of theirs still, and I'm glad that when I listen to it I am not just listening in order to feel nostalgic about the first time I listened to it. I still can hear the record and not just the mushy-inner-home-movie it triggers. But it was weird that I would just light a candle and stare into the flame and do nothing while that record played. Like church or something.

twice boiled cabbage is death, Sunday, 3 January 2010 18:44 (fourteen years ago) link

one year passes...

back: http://www.atpfestival.com/events/ibymlondon2012.php

Jamie_ATP, Wednesday, 9 November 2011 16:05 (twelve years ago) link

Would be pretty weird seeing them in front of any sort of sizeable crowd. That said, good luck Codeine!

Lars and the Lulu Girl (NickB), Wednesday, 9 November 2011 16:18 (twelve years ago) link

I love this thread btw.

Lars and the Lulu Girl (NickB), Wednesday, 9 November 2011 16:20 (twelve years ago) link

one year passes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_3qhH5OerA

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 26 April 2013 06:09 (eleven years ago) link

three months pass...

Most perfect discography ever?

Mule, Thursday, 8 August 2013 22:35 (ten years ago) link

one year passes...

y

kraudive, Monday, 29 September 2014 17:11 (nine years ago) link

nine years pass...

Anyone catching this round of shows? So psyched (yet equally bummed we don't get BManning as opener).

I missed their last reunion... strangely found out about it at an A's game. As I'm shuffling to my seat I notice the guy next to me was wearing a shirt of theirs and I was like "My man, that was my favorite band in 1991" and he replied "Dude, they played last night at [insert local club here]... you blew it!" haha.

citation needed (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 9 November 2023 23:57 (six months ago) link

three weeks pass...

...

citation needed (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 6 December 2023 17:58 (five months ago) link


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