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GHOST?
FRIENDS FOREVER?

I'm thinking GHOST even though it costs more. I haven't seen them before. But Nicole is being bitchy about wanting to see Friend forever/Hale ZUKAZ

― Ian c=====8 (orion), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 19:28 (twenty-one years ago)

ghost >>>>>>>>> friends forever

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 19:32 (twenty-one years ago)

exactly.

it's not sold out, izzit?

― Ian c=====8 (orion), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 19:34 (twenty-one years ago)

Ghost is amazing. Hale Zukas is bleh and if you've seen FF once you prolly got it. Go for Ghost, I say.

― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 19:35 (twenty-one years ago)

GHOST is playing here this sunday! So is Xiu Xiu, Borbetomagus, and a slew of other bands.

― warhorse jackson (thee owlbear hunter), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 19:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Tell FF that they need to play outside the Ghost show.

― why do old people and old users of ILX such bastardos (deangulberry), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 19:36 (twenty-one years ago)

FF were really good teh first time I saw them. And I LIKE HALE ZUKAS, DUDES... so i dunno. my friend ben's band is playing a free show tonight at what used to be luxx i think? though there's some lame girl band from my school playing so there will undoubtedly be lots of awful people there.

― Ian c=====8 (orion), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 19:39 (twenty-one years ago)

senor bastardos is way otm. can you somehow hijack ff over to the ghost show? like fuck with their mapquest or something?

― lauren (laurenp), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 19:42 (twenty-one years ago)

FF will do it without hijacking. Buy them some beer and they'll drive their van over there.

― why do old people and old users of ILX such bastardos (deangulberry), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 19:45 (twenty-one years ago)

I'd rather see Hale Zukas outside teh Ghost show. Friends Forever will never top what they did in the Providence a few years ago with the flaming pumpkins, etc. DEAN DO YOU KNOW THEIR CELLPHONE NUMBER

― Ian c=====8 (orion), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 19:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Only email addresses, sorry, duder.

― why do old people and old users of ILX such bastardos (deangulberry), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 19:47 (twenty-one years ago)

i'm going to a baseball game. :-\

― gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 19:48 (twenty-one years ago)

16bpu + sh + taiwan deth + ?

i really wanna see hz... ghost too tho. ff i got enough from their dvd to last me, but i'll be amused probably if i get ta see em.
m.

― msp (msp), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 19:48 (twenty-one years ago)

I AM WORKING TONIGHT *SHOCKER*

― why do old people and old users of ILX such bastardos (deangulberry), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 19:49 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm... looking for an apartment. lame.

― Holly (an appletross), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 19:50 (twenty-one years ago)

I may ROLL OUT to FF. I aint paying tho. I'll be on TEH LURK outside. Like I done DID the last time I seen them.

THEY WERE RAD, BUT THOSE WERE DIFFERNT TIMES.

― ddb (ddb), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 19:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Ghost may be expensive but they're gonna play for like 2.5 hours so you get your money's worth if heavy psych jams are what you're about.

― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 20:00 (twenty-one years ago)

GHOST was pretty rad last time i seen them. BUT WHEN THAT DOOD STARTS CROONING. OMGWTF!!!!

MENTAL. ITS SO BAD.

TEH GUITARIST THO, CAN TAKE YOU INTO TEH WANKOSPHERE. IT'S SO GOOD.

― ddb (ddb), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 20:02 (twenty-one years ago)

16bpu + sh + taiwan deth + ? msp you're stoked man. taiwan deth puts on a great show. and the 16bpu records are pointing to the same thing.

― brock (brock), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 20:04 (twenty-one years ago)

p.s. the shave are bein streamed on wfmu right now.

― brock (brock), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 20:09 (twenty-one years ago)

I AM TOTALLY AT WORK AND IT IS TEH RAWK

― why do old people and old users of ILX such bastardos (deangulberry), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 00:40 (twenty-one years ago)

I'M GOING TO A CRUSTYPUNK SHOW1!!

― Sonny, Ah!!1 (Sonny A.), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 00:41 (twenty-one years ago)

I AM TOTALLY DOING LAW SCHOOL WORK AND CHECKING ILX EVERY FIVE MINUTES

― cutty (mcutt), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 00:44 (twenty-one years ago)

I AM TOTALLY DOING LAW FIRM WORK AND CHECKING ILX EVERY FIVE MINUTES

― why do old people and old users of ILX such bastardos (deangulberry), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 00:48 (twenty-one years ago)

dean, you should really go where the money is:

CUTTY AND GULBERRY, NOISE ATTURNEYS

― cutty (mcutt), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 00:51 (twenty-one years ago)

The Associate

* *
Rated PG-13
Laurel: Whoopi Goldberg
Sally: Dianne Wiest
Fallon: Eli Wallach
Frank: Tim Daly
Camille: Bebe Neuwirth
Aesop: Austin Pendleton
Cindy Mason: Lainie Kazan

Directed by Donald Petrie. Written by Nick Thiel. Running time: 114 minutes. Rated PG-13 (for sensuality and an exotic dance club scene).

By Roger Ebert

The Associate'' is an uninspired recycling of the ``Tootsie'' formula, with the fatal error that its Tootsie-figure is offscreen most of the time and not lovable when he's onscreen. Can Whoopi Goldberg convincingly play a white man? Only sort of; he looks like a dubious experiment at Madame Tussaud's. Does she make the man into a character we like and care about? Not at all.

The movie stars Goldberg as Laurel, a bright businesswoman who gets discriminated against because she's not a man, so she creates a fictitious man as her invisible partner and gives him all of her best ideas. This man, named ``Cutty,'' is soon the best-known investment adviser on Wall Street, but he's never seen--he's always out of town or on vacation, while Laurel fronts for him.

Eventually it becomes absolutely necessary for people to see Cutty, so Laurel enlists the skills of a friend who's a celebrity impersonator, and appears at public functions as a white man. But not a very interesting or likable man. What people liked about ``Tootsie'' was Tootsie--her moxie, her personality, her spirit. It wasn't the transvestite plot gimmick that made the movie a success.

On the way to its ungainly third act, ``The Associate'' scores some good points against the male-dominated hierarchy of the business world. We see Laurel training a man (Tim Daly) who gets the promotion she deserves. We see Daly taking clients to a strip club and closing deals at 3 a.m. after sending Laurel home. We see her quit her job in disgust and open her own firm. And we like the relationship she has with her new secretary (Dianne Wiest), another smart woman lost in the bowels of male power.

We're even sort of amused by elements of the plot, which involve Laurel cycling her own stock tips through the non-existent ``Cutty'' and fooling everyone, even veteran investors. But eventually the monster she's created grows out of control (``Even when I create the perfect man, he ends up stabbing me in the back''). And Laurel has to create a ``real'' Cutty in order to regain control of the situation.

Dustin Hoffman famously did weeks of tests and almost quit in despair before he finally found the right look for his Tootsie. Robin Williams, as Mrs. Doubtfire, wasn't as convincing as Hoffman, but got away with his impersonation. Goldberg's Mr. Cutty, made out of latex and makeup, looks very odd. Maybe Goldberg wanted to play a white man just to prove a point, but if she'd made Cutty a black man, she could have made a more provocative point, and probably looked more convincing at the same time. Even that wouldn't have saved the movie. It has a lot of heart in its scenes between the Goldberg and Wiest characters, but most of the rest of the plot is mechanical--some sitcom, some slapstick, some mistaken identity, and weird scenes where women try to seduce Mr. Cutty while we suspect that in real life what they'd be whispering in his ear would be the name of a good dermatologist.

― cutty (mcutt), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 00:52 (twenty-one years ago)

CUTTY: T/S: Hourly vs. Salary

― why do old people and old users of ILX such bastardos (deangulberry), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 00:56 (twenty-one years ago)

ROFFLE AT "CUTTY"

― why do old people and old users of ILX such bastardos (deangulberry), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 00:57 (twenty-one years ago)

― cutty (mcutt), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 00:59 (twenty-one years ago)

hahah i couldnt find anything hilarious on google img

― why do old people and old users of ILX such bastardos (deangulberry), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 01:00 (twenty-one years ago)

DEAN: T/S: 5 digits / 6 digits

― cutty (mcutt), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 01:01 (twenty-one years ago)

TEH CUTTY MAN

http://llwyd.tripod.com/dismale/associate6.jpg

― why do old people and old users of ILX such bastardos (deangulberry), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 01:01 (twenty-one years ago)

BOOO TEH TRIPOD

― why do old people and old users of ILX such bastardos (deangulberry), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 01:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Well Cutty, when you pass the Bar, let me know ... I will get teh REFEREL BONNUS when I get you TEH HIRED.

― why do old people and old users of ILX such bastardos (deangulberry), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 01:03 (twenty-one years ago)

WHAT FARM DO YOU WORK AT?

― cutty (mcutt), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 01:07 (twenty-one years ago)

TEH BIG FISHES

― why do old people and old users of ILX such bastardos (deangulberry), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 01:10 (twenty-one years ago)

dont be coy

― cutty (mcutt), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 01:13 (twenty-one years ago)

MOTION TO DISMISS CUTTY'S RFD

― why do old people and old users of ILX such bastardos (deangulberry), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 01:58 (twenty-one years ago)

have you both performed your due diligence?

― lauren (laurenp), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 02:00 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.britannia.com/history/monarchs/monimages/london-anime-ad.gif

― Free the Bee (ex machina), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 02:11 (twenty-one years ago)

That looks like you, Jon.

― why do old people and old users of ILX such bastardos (deangulberry), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 02:12 (twenty-one years ago)

OMG WHY IS HIS HEAD COMING OFF IS THAT WHAT THEY DO IN LONDARN?

― cutty (mcutt), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 02:13 (twenty-one years ago)

FAGGOTS

yea it does look like me!

― Free the Bee (ex machina), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 02:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Yawn. Is it time to go home or what?!

(Answer: no.)

― why do old people and old users of ILX such bastardos (deangulberry), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 03:10 (twenty-one years ago)

I wonder what the noize dude is doing tonight
What merriment the noize dude is pursuing tonight

― tokyo rosemary (rosemary), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 03:19 (twenty-one years ago)

GHOST RULED MY FACE TO DETH

ALSO, I GOT TEH MASAKI BATOH SOLO RECORD FOR TEH CAN COVER. WOAH SO GOOD.

― Ian c=====8 (orion), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 04:05 (twenty-one years ago)

what coverd

― Free the Bee (ex machina), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 04:11 (twenty-one years ago)

I went unexpectedly to a birthday party on the roof of an Episcopal seminary building for the former drummer of Rodan.

― hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 04:11 (twenty-one years ago)

YOO DOO RIGHT

― Ian c=====8 (orion), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 04:11 (twenty-one years ago)

that's awkwardly phrased on my part.

― hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 04:12 (twenty-one years ago)

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IT'S A JUG O' WINE NIGHT, HURRAH

― Sonny, Ah!!1 (Sonny A.), Friday, 24 September 2004 17:03 (twenty-one years ago)

I am so eating curry ~~when~~ if I leave work.

― why do old people and old users of ILX such bastardos (deangulberry), Monday, 27 September 2004 23:35 (twenty-one years ago)

I am reading teh aeneid and wanting ladies.

― Ian c=====8 (orion), Monday, 27 September 2004 23:36 (twenty-one years ago)

do NOT jerk off to the aeneid.

― cutty (mcutt), Monday, 27 September 2004 23:36 (twenty-one years ago)

wasn't planning on it.

― Ian c=====8 (orion), Monday, 27 September 2004 23:38 (twenty-one years ago)

I AM WATCHING QUEEN OF TEH DAMNED WITH ALLIAH.

SANS PANTALOONS

― ddb (ddb), Monday, 27 September 2004 23:38 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.users.totalise.co.uk/~idmon/aeneas.gif

― Ian c=====8 (orion), Monday, 27 September 2004 23:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Post curry, I am going to watch Mr. Show Season Four on TEH NEW TV.

― why do old people and old users of ILX such bastardos (deangulberry), Monday, 27 September 2004 23:42 (twenty-one years ago)

mr show r0x0r.

― Ian c=====8 (orion), Monday, 27 September 2004 23:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, I can finally trash my old VHS tapes now that this DVD is out.

― why do old people and old users of ILX such bastardos (deangulberry), Monday, 27 September 2004 23:44 (twenty-one years ago)

or you can give teh VHS tapes to me because i enjoy living in the past.

― Ian c=====8 (orion), Monday, 27 September 2004 23:46 (twenty-one years ago)

season four is out? JOSH FENDERMAN?

― cutty (mcutt), Monday, 27 September 2004 23:49 (twenty-one years ago)

honesty in motion!

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Monday, 27 September 2004 23:54 (twenty-one years ago)

that's the final episode isn't it?

shit, marilyn monsters pizzarella pie parlor!

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Monday, 27 September 2004 23:54 (twenty-one years ago)

RAPIST!...DONT GET RAPED!

― ddb (ddb), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 00:02 (twenty-one years ago)

TAINT PWNS

― why do old people and old users of ILX such bastardos (deangulberry), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 00:35 (twenty-one years ago)

my roommate's band is opening for friends forever this week. should i skip work for it?

― Sonny, Ah!!1 (Sonny A.), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 01:02 (twenty-one years ago)

tonight I am going to mope. Maybe tomorrow night will be better.

― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 02:17 (twenty-one years ago)

i am trying to get my courage to drink this stinky wild turkey rye :(

― Free the Bee (ex machina), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 02:22 (twenty-one years ago)

no, see, you get courage AFTER you drink it, Jon Williams!

― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 02:23 (twenty-one years ago)

put it on the rocks jigga.

tonight i found a stash of saranac oktoberfest in the beer fridge.

― brock (brock), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 02:23 (twenty-one years ago)

down it goes

― Free the Bee (ex machina), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 02:28 (twenty-one years ago)

WILDTURKY wtf GOBBLEGOBBLEGOEBBELS posiTIVE MS. COPANS turky brest

― andrew l. r. (allocryptic), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 02:32 (twenty-one years ago)

one year passes...

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y109/fez_/treibstoff-flyer.jpg http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y109/fez_/history_of_violence_poster.jpg http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y109/fez_/kapotte_muziek.jpg

^... two out of these, and:

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y109/fez_/veltins.jpg http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y109/fez_/veltins.jpg http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y109/fez_/veltins.jpg http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y109/fez_/veltins.jpg http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y109/fez_/veltins.jpg http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y109/fez_/veltins.jpg http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y109/fez_/veltins.jpg http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y109/fez_/veltins.jpg

― one eye white, one eye black (FE7), Friday, 14 October 2005 09:35 (twenty years ago)

http://store1.yimg.com/I/xoxide_1865_59173764

― Jonothong Williamsmang (ex machina), Friday, 14 October 2005 11:45 (twenty years ago)

http://www.cinematropical.com/distribution/images/bolivia/via-publica.jpg

― caitlin oh no (caitxa1), Friday, 14 October 2005 12:02 (twenty years ago)

last night: britishes girl took me out to dinner, drank beerz with new roomie, unpacked records, watched some tv.

tonight: wallace n' gromit wit teh britishes girl!

― hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 14 October 2005 13:50 (twenty years ago)

http://ideashak.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/deerhoof1.jpg

― gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 14 October 2005 14:11 (twenty years ago)

perhaps you should check out the first entry here, gygax!

― hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 14 October 2005 14:18 (twenty years ago)

is that NH's livegerbil?

― gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 14 October 2005 14:21 (twenty years ago)

yep. more importantly, first entry is a deerhoof remix he did.

― hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 14 October 2005 14:59 (twenty years ago)

tonight: wallace & gromit with 'Merkin girl (who likes me!)

― Lion-O (nordicskilla), Friday, 14 October 2005 15:39 (twenty years ago)

Rest of the weekend: studyin', working out, Netflix

HO HUM

― Lion-O (nordicskilla), Friday, 14 October 2005 15:40 (twenty years ago)

hey gygax is there an east bay deerhoof show _tonight_, or are you talking 'bout tomorrows?

― milton parker (Jon L), Friday, 14 October 2005 18:01 (twenty years ago)

I have no idea what I'm talking about.

― gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 14 October 2005 18:02 (twenty years ago)

seriously.

Shows tonight:

Burning Star Core, Core of the Coalman, UFO as Bacteria, Terrestrial Receiver, Quazar Fuck Photos, Nova Vulva, Monichi Mr. Star Davids @ Art SF 110 Capp, SF (10/14) Night Noise Pancakes 7 pm

ehhhhh

Country Teasers, Hospitals, Indian Jewelry @ Hemlock, SF (10/14)

hmmmm hmmm.

what are you up to?

― gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 14 October 2005 18:06 (twenty years ago)

Core of the Coal Man is good, and I've heard good things about Burning Star Core, so I actually am thinking noise pancakes

though that Country Teasers show definitely sounds good

it's been hard to get myself out of the home studio recently. which is good. that three DVD Matsumoto box just came in the mail yesterday though, Adam would be into those too, we should all do a screening

― milton parker (Jon L), Friday, 14 October 2005 18:22 (twenty years ago)

burning star core is great! don't know any of those other bands. someday, i'd like to see the country teasers.

― hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 14 October 2005 18:28 (twenty years ago)

I last saw BSC with you h! (i think).

― gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 14 October 2005 18:36 (twenty years ago)

really? great? i'm finding the record enjoyable but not mindblowing. (is the live act better...not that ill be in sf tonight)

― bb (bbrz), Friday, 14 October 2005 18:57 (twenty years ago)

uh, you did, gygax?!? i've only seen spencer once, and that was a duo with pete nolan.

― hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 14 October 2005 19:10 (twenty years ago)

Call (774) 249-2978 if you're looking for something to do tonight.

― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Friday, 14 October 2005 19:17 (twenty years ago)

Maybe you weren't at that NFF show.

― gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 14 October 2005 19:37 (twenty years ago)

nff?

― hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 14 October 2005 20:23 (twenty years ago)

oh right, NO FUN (sans genre). yeah, i only went the saturday and the sunday.

― hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 14 October 2005 20:24 (twenty years ago)

xpost:
NO FUN FEST - (NYC March 19-21)

― gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 14 October 2005 20:25 (twenty years ago)

the country teasers are crazy fun live. go see them and talk to the bald guitarist robert and call him a MOTHFUCKER. he is my friend.

― Jams Murphy (ystrickler), Friday, 14 October 2005 20:29 (twenty years ago)

robert is a noize friend! we drank with him at daddy's.

― hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 14 October 2005 20:29 (twenty years ago)

david cronenberg > robert babicz

― one eye white, one eye black (FE7), Saturday, 15 October 2005 03:01 (twenty years ago)

Art for the 3 Eyes

P.S. history of violence was pretty damm cool

― PHOIOEI (blastocyst), Saturday, 15 October 2005 17:03 (twenty years ago)

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