Love & Rockets question for DEANGULBERRY

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Hey Deangulberry,

A few months ago (I think on one of the ILE "OXNARD" threads) you mentioned that los hermanos Hernandez were from Oxnard which looking back I probably could have put together what with the references to Pt. Mugu but it seemed like they placed "Hoppers" and "Montoya/Dairytown" more in Central California (a lot of escapism to both LA and SF). So what I'm asking is (now that I know they're from Oxnard):

Is "Hoppers" = Oxnard and "Montoya" = Ventura? I googled but couldn't find anything.

― gygax! (gygax!), Sunday, 10 October 2004 14:19 (twenty-one years ago)

I opened this with the hope of discussing Bauhaus.

How dissapointing.

― dj oliver hazard perry (dj oliver hazard perry), Sunday, 10 October 2004 15:05 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm not terribly into the Hernandez bros, but from what I've gleaned, isn't 'Hoppers' part of Huerta, which is based on Oxnard? I'm guessing then that 'Hoppers' is the part that they came from which is probably on the east side, maybe downtown or somewhere around there. That's about all that I know though. I never got into the comics much, sorry.

― why do old people and old users of ILX such bastardos (deangulberry), Sunday, 10 October 2004 18:08 (twenty-one years ago)

DEAN GULBERRY YOU ARE AN ENIGMA

― Helios Creed (orion), Sunday, 10 October 2004 18:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Jaime's stories center on Margarita Luisa Chascarrillo and Esperanza Luisa Glass, Maggie and Hopey to their fans. He has followed their friendship from their havoc-wreaking punk urchins in the fictional Barrio Huerta (better known to its residents as Hoppers for its stash of low-riders) through their on-and-off love affair into early midlife. Gilbert created the mythical Palomar--a rural, matriarchal Central American village where, as one character puts it, "the men are men and women have a sense of humor"--to map the lives and loves of indelible characters like Luba, an earth-mother figure with a violence-scarred past; Chelo, the female town sheriff who keeps order with common sense and ample patience; and Tonansin, the tragic beauty who becomes a political martyr.

From this paragraph, it seems to me like Huerta/Hoppers is that actual Oxnard and that Palomar is the idealized version of Oxnard, or perhaps the Oxnard of the past. Maybe Palomar is what Oxnard symbolizes and Huerta/Hoppers is the grim reality. That sounds reasonable to me. I think a lot of people feel that way about it.

Also, I can't see Ventura being the ideal of anyone hispanic at any point in time, especially not during the 80s.

― why do old people and old users of ILX such bastardos (deangulberry), Sunday, 10 October 2004 18:19 (twenty-one years ago)

I love Hispanics.

― Gigantic [something] (nordicskilla), Sunday, 10 October 2004 18:28 (twenty-one years ago)

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