maoz is a european chain started by israelis, not really based on anything
― iatee, Wednesday, 6 August 2014 15:43 (ten years ago) link
i know this is changing and is already true in cities/neighborhoods with large immigrant populations (especially those with warm climates), but i really wish the US had a culture of cheap, snacky, but delicious street food. sometimes i don't want a whole meal and i don't feel like paying a lot of money, and i just want something tasty and good for less than $3 bucks. the US basically has chain fast food to fill in the need for cheap food but it's all garbage. i don't mean an overpriced food truck, lots of food trucks in boston just sell regularly priced meals, not snacks. just little stands that have good food.
― marcos, Wednesday, August 6, 2014 11:36 AM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
― le goon (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 6 August 2014 15:43 (ten years ago) link
america has good street food everywhere it has good streets
― iatee, Wednesday, 6 August 2014 15:44 (ten years ago) link
Nah, most american food trucks are garbage
― 龜, Wednesday, 6 August 2014 15:45 (ten years ago) link
yeah, it's sad that most food trucks dump their low overhead into the paint job rather than passing it along to the customers.
― Sufjan Grafton, Wednesday, 6 August 2014 15:46 (ten years ago) link
new york is really the only place where you can get good hot food late for cheap because of halal carts
― le goon (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 6 August 2014 15:47 (ten years ago) link
also poor countries are just going to have cheaper street food than rich countries, I mean even that dude selling empanadas in sunset park has to pay brookyln rent
― iatee, Wednesday, 6 August 2014 15:47 (ten years ago) link
and i guess LA too but i assume there's more driving involved whereas in ny you can basically walk out of any bar in manhattan/some parts of brooklyn and stumble on a $3 chicken pita or whatever
― iatee, Wednesday, August 6, 2014 11:43 AM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
ah ok, i was totally wrong then
― marcos, Wednesday, 6 August 2014 15:48 (ten years ago) link
yeah but that's not because other american cities have bad food culture it's because they are just bad places in general
― iatee, Wednesday, 6 August 2014 15:48 (ten years ago) link
xp
The ubiquity of halal carts actually works against nyc imo, need more taco trucks
― 龜, Wednesday, 6 August 2014 15:49 (ten years ago) link
Nyc probably barely cracks the global top 50 in terms of street food imo
― 龜, Wednesday, 6 August 2014 15:50 (ten years ago) link
― iatee, Wednesday, August 6, 2014 11:48 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
lol, fuck off dude
― marcos, Wednesday, 6 August 2014 15:50 (ten years ago) link
classic nyc provincialism
sorry i don't mean to be a dick iatee
― marcos, Wednesday, 6 August 2014 15:51 (ten years ago) link
I meant to say except for where you live
― iatee, Wednesday, 6 August 2014 15:51 (ten years ago) link
i don't really care *why* american cities have bad (late night) food culture, just that they do
― le goon (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 6 August 2014 15:51 (ten years ago) link
lol xp
― marcos, Wednesday, 6 August 2014 15:54 (ten years ago) link
I mean who cares about 'street food' I just want to eat food, I can get it to go, ny does crack the top 50 of food
― iatee, Wednesday, 6 August 2014 15:55 (ten years ago) link
the street food fetish is like a cult of authenticity thing, oh man that was cooked 10 feet outside of the building instead of 10 feet inside of the building, it's real food
― iatee, Wednesday, 6 August 2014 15:57 (ten years ago) link
― 龜, Wednesday, August 6, 2014 8:45 AM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
otm, it's amazing how disgusting most food trucks in l.a. are at least, i've gone to so many bars that have food trucks parked outside and the food is such bullshit. lots of the pioneering food trucks are good, though even some of them are awful.
― LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Wednesday, 6 August 2014 15:57 (ten years ago) link
street food tends to mean something because of the inherent limitations of the medium xp
― Sufjan Grafton, Wednesday, 6 August 2014 15:57 (ten years ago) link
I wager a 4H fair in Iowa would probably be at least top 20 tho
― 龜, Wednesday, 6 August 2014 15:58 (ten years ago) link
Eh there are advantages to street food
Hawkers don't have to pay rent for one thing, obv there's costs with a truck and getting a license
But if you're running a stall that you hitch to the back of your car
And you're running illegal or in a place with lax licensing
It reduces the barrier to entry
― 龜, Wednesday, 6 August 2014 15:59 (ten years ago) link
Also it's harder to do smokey stuff indoors like open pit charcoal
And sometimes food just isn't improved by sitting down and eating it, it has to be on a stick
― 龜, Wednesday, 6 August 2014 16:01 (ten years ago) link
fair stall food usually benefits some sort of club where adults drink beer and host their kids' birthday parties. I don't care about your club. what's your overhead?
― Sufjan Grafton, Wednesday, 6 August 2014 16:01 (ten years ago) link
-Signed, someone who has eaten fried squid on a stick
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/9627011/pphotos/shfood/IMG_4963.jpg
― 龜, Wednesday, 6 August 2014 16:02 (ten years ago) link
I am fine w/ paying less money for food and eating it on a stick, but often places in buildings also offer cheap food on a stick
― iatee, Wednesday, 6 August 2014 16:02 (ten years ago) link
like the above photo looks suspiciously like a room in a building
I took it outside!
― 龜, Wednesday, 6 August 2014 16:03 (ten years ago) link
龜 otm multiple xps.
the point of street food is that you can take it and go and eat outside at the place of your choosing. take-out from a restaurant with all the boxes and containers and stapled paper bag is a totally different thing.
― marcos, Wednesday, 6 August 2014 16:04 (ten years ago) link
I mean if you want to get technical yes some stalls are actually just street-facing rooms inside a building, but they don't have places to sit and everything they sell is on a stick and it's cheap, it's still street food imo
Even if it's indoors, hawker centers in Singapore or wet markets in HK are still within the street food ambit imo
― 龜, Wednesday, 6 August 2014 16:06 (ten years ago) link
snow cones' portability make them the ultimate street food. but they are unfairly cast as dessert only. where are your hot dog syrups? your taco syrups?
― Sufjan Grafton, Wednesday, 6 August 2014 16:06 (ten years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/cpYLuwf.jpg
Like even though the food here is being prepared 'inside' this is still street food
― 龜, Wednesday, 6 August 2014 16:07 (ten years ago) link
manhattan's street food culture is limited by permits, similar to taxis you can probably say that the current system is stifling but zero limits would also be a mess
― iatee, Wednesday, 6 August 2014 16:08 (ten years ago) link
on Sunday i paid $11 for two smallish fish tacos in ASBURY PARK
as u were
― son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 6 August 2014 16:08 (ten years ago) link
Zero limits would probably flood the streets with people which would make it harder for private car ownership, it's a win-win I think you can agree
― 龜, Wednesday, 6 August 2014 16:08 (ten years ago) link
'hyperbole by j0rdan s.'
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 6 August 2014 16:10 (ten years ago) link
literally every inch of space in manhattan would have someone's street cart or another in it, eventually everyone would starve to death because nobody could move
― iatee, Wednesday, 6 August 2014 16:10 (ten years ago) link
NYC's draconian permit system drove the brave and the few to Madison Square Park, one of the few places in Bloomberg's fascist NYC where one could operate a shack in peace
I think we all know how that story turned out
― 龜, Wednesday, 6 August 2014 16:11 (ten years ago) link
The piles of dead bodies in the street would further inhibit the movement of cars, again a win-win xp
an ex gf of mine once defended china's total lack of street food regulation by saying "it's so much simpler than in america, if you get food poisoning from a cart just don't go there again"
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 6 August 2014 16:11 (ten years ago) link
eh dead bodies don't usually stop cars
― iatee, Wednesday, 6 August 2014 16:11 (ten years ago) link
If everybody could just operate a food cart instead of having to rent storefront property then rents all across the city would go down too
In short, deregulate NYC
― 龜, Wednesday, 6 August 2014 16:12 (ten years ago) link
龜, food libertarian
― 龜, Wednesday, 6 August 2014 16:13 (ten years ago) link
the more NYC looks like kowloon walled city the better imo
― LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Wednesday, 6 August 2014 16:14 (ten years ago) link
is someone working on a lyft/uber like service for food? we need an app called füd that would allow me to sell half of the sandwich I just made to passersby.
― Sufjan Grafton, Wednesday, 6 August 2014 16:15 (ten years ago) link
from what I can tell approximately 50% of startups are that
― iatee, Wednesday, 6 August 2014 16:16 (ten years ago) link
also it should be called fuiud