Esmee Denters 2: I'll buy you a jet plane, baby

MAJOR LIFE GOALS

(read in Hannah Barbara Birdman voice)

ha - i guess what i mean is that if i had a fulfilling relationship w/a guy that had problems with the institution of marriage and we were in love but he didn't want to marry me, it wouldn't be a big deal.

though i liked the idea of the weeding - basically the ceremony would take place in a vacant lot with a bunch of weeds, and the bride and groom would lead the procession chopping down the weeds with weed whackers.

last night on the phone w/my friend Amy, we discussed the business idea of a Revenge Service - it wouldn't do things that would be physically hurtful or cause significant property damage. The best feature, we decided, would be a service where the seeker of revenge could pay to have someone attend a social event where the subject of revenge would be and make humiliating or embarrassing remarks that everyone could hear. It's human nature not to want to do something like this to a friend or friendly acquaintance, but it is also human nature to laugh when someone violates social taboos, so it would be an opportunity for the seeker and their friends to have that release, without having to do the deed themselves.

"Friends"

oh - that was unclear - i was thinking of mutual friends or acquaintances of the subject of revenge would not want to instigate it, not the seeker of revenge seeking revenge on a friend or friendly acquaintance.

WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT

That is not clearer. That is making me laugh for all its unclearness.

Example 1:

On second thought, I don't understand this thread at all.

― WHY DON'T YOU JUST LICK THE BUS DIRECTLY (Laurel), Tuesday, November 17, 2009 9:00 PM (25 seconds ago) Bookmark

basically the concept is paying someone to make asshole remarks targeted at someone you dislike or who wronged you, so that you and your friends don't have to, but can have the release/sense of justice served of said remarks having been said.

I get that.

that was what i was trying to say.

it's not about cats or checks.

So I wonder if there will be an adjustment among people. Like, we understand the uses of titles in poems and novels, but when the function of the title bends or alters or multiplies on a message board thread, will people recognize the authority of the text or the title? Can they do both? Do you bail because of multiple discourses?

me? no. but then i like titles that are often confusing or unclear and threads that derail and "metal-platen"

No, I know you do, but consider ilx as a culture, or a board as a culture, or Western Internet users.

i think it depends on the promised topic. Like if it's informational - or something that someone is most likely to look for for information and then it becomes a thread with pictures of cats or pizza or animated gifs of penguins, then they'd probably be annoyed. But things like that fads thread - i can't really see that people should be seriously irritated or feel betrayed or wronged that it went the way it did.

A few of the threads we've derailed recently have been pretty unserious, minor threads, but others have expressed sincere consternation and even confusion about that derailing. Not that we weren't sincere in our participation. We were. But the idea that a title can have the same multiplicity or irony that a title of book runs counter to how some would like threads to function, and for others the fact of it (not on paper, but encountered in the wild) is just disorienting, a game-changer or a game-ender.

xpost Obviously. We were writing partly about the same thing at the same time.

"than that of a title of a book" is what I guess I should've written

You are an Internet enabler!

i mean, you can't really blame people that want the "aw" thread to be pristine and solely consist of "aw" and "<3" or picture threads to consist entirely of pictures if that's the constraint they have mentally imposed on such threads - but it definitely makes them something other than a conversation, or following the natural forms of a conversation.

xp - occasionally i'm tempted to post to threads to see if i can get them all on the subject of lj.

Why does a thread have to be about conversation though? If they want aw and <3, and they have that vision, it's its own thing, which isn't a conversation.

Which, I guess was your point.

minus that extraneous comma

i think there's an assumption that threads are conversations - like on other boards - but there are a number of threads on ilx that are not, they are something else.

By the way, I think I have to strike off that example one. I don't think it's a legitimate example anymore.

the kitsch example 1?

No, the derail example 1.

you understand this thread after all?

there was this guy in high school who used to wear hypercolor shirts - i think he might have had a crush on me, which was weird, because i'm someone that people don't get crushes on - but for whatever reason, we were at a Denny's with a group of friends and I threw creamer packets at him and hit him in the face with one, and i think he stopped liking me after that, though he wasn't someone i would have gone out with.

I started this dumb bunny thread!

http://www.premiere.com/var/ezflow_site/storage/images/list/cinema-s-anti-easter-bunnies/night-of-the-lepus-janet-leigh-stewart-whitma/448024-1-eng-US/Night-of-the-Lepus-Janet-Leigh-Stewart-Whitma_imagelarge.jpg

put me down. i want to be put down. please put me down now. can i eat now. what is going on?

Okay, you win, I no longer get this thread.

it was a bunny reference! night of the lepus - i like movies with mutant animals that attack/threaten society where the animals are traditionally non-threatening - like rabbits. the rabbits in that movie, they really try to make them look threatening, but the rabbits really just look confused and like they don't want to be held.

the cryptic crossword logic is starting to make sense to me now.

What the hell happened over at iltrmb today? Perfect storm, it seems. At least for them, it was.

i don't know - i don't think it's related to what happened on 77.

What happened on 77?

i will email you.

Oh, man, I'm leaving on this sort of date in less than an hour and I should finish some homework. I like this girl - she's cute, I like the music she makes, but we don't seem to have any chemistry, and so I hope tonight is just a fun night and there's no pressure.

is this a new girl or one you've mentioned before?

From gamesetwatch: UK Gov't, Area/Code Launch Street Safety MMO [massively multiplayer online game]

One I've mentioned before, I'm sure, one that lives downtown with Katie.

what kinda music does she do?

She sings and plays guitar, sometimes with this guy Sam. It's sort of ramshackle diy pop.

Sam will play drums, and then sometimes they switch. I think Sam does that in all of his bands.

i emailed you about that thing.

You mean you put a note in one of those pneumatic tubes like at the bank and it's working its way toward me.

Making a shwooooo sound.

This board is having an effect on my posting to other lists. One of the lists I'm on sends messages in plaintext. For some reason - maybe an iphone thing - some people's posts come out as garbled jibberish. I like replying to them, or editing the garbled jibberish into geometric shapes.

I cooked some chicken and vegetables with a little soy sauce spashed on them, and toasted one slice of bread, and the sister-in-law is pretending to be saying to her annoying little dog, rather than passive aggressively announcing to me, "It's stinky in here. Stinky, stinky stinky. Phew!"

does the dog have a sweater on?

No, the dog has really, really long white hair that gets all over everything. Maybe each hair is about a foot long? Otherwise the dog is quite small. They don't clip its hair in the summer, either, which lasts 9 months in Florida.

And it yaps at everything. These two, they tend to tell ridiculous white lies when confronted about anything, so last night when my brother was on about his wife eating pumpkin rolls, she was elaborately explaining how it could not have been her, even though it's just him or her. And when I said I had taught their dog not to yap when I come home and leave the house, and it'd be easy for them to do, too, they said they like it when she yaps. And when the wife said that I was disagreeable, meaning that I disagree a lot, and I said she misused the word, she went to the dictionary and confusedly read the definition aloud and decided that that is what she meant after all, haw haw. This woman, she's finishing her journalism major and she doesn't know who Bill Moyers is. Not that I asked her - my totally un-news savvy stepdad mentioned him. And when I was watching Fox News one day, my brother said, "I hate Fox News, it's so stupid," and she said, "Why?" They have no hobbies, no interests, no friends. They are eating themselves from the inside. When I move out, there is no way they'll replace me. They wouldn't have anyone and no one would have them, with their goddamned decorative pillows that have to go two on one side of the couch and two on another.

that sounds grim. well, at least the dog probably doesn't mind the air conditioning.

bamcquern y do u live w/them?

Lamp, why on that other thread did you think I was "probably dating someone"?

haha really? it was joke callback to that dude that listed "probably has a bf" or something similar which made me lol cause i read ilx too much

Because he's my brother and it was convenient. There were things about them I didn't know when I moved in. I guess I became self conscious at some point about being so self conscious about spaces, because it seemed finicky and uptight. But I've been reading this Edward T. Hall book about proxemics and it helps me understand a lot of why I'm uncomfortable living in this housing development in East (pretend) Orlando - without seeming like an uptight prig. To myself, at least. Anyway, I'm moving when the semester's out. I'm starting to toy around looking at craigslist listings.

xp - it's not that you read ilx too much, it's that he's not on 77

i almost otm-ed you, but then i restrained myself - it is no longer otm day.

the things that people post to the regional alumni listserv of the college i went to are like a glimpse into a totally different world than i inhabit.

the freedom socialist party does not offer a way to unsubscribe from their mailing list.

today would have been Layperson's Formalist Approach to a Problematic Subject Day

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