What music are you listening to today or at the moment?

I for one am listening to the new album by Liars. The jury is still out because while it's quite good they do sometimes rip off Black Dice and Animal Collective. On the upside, it comes with a weird DVD where they have three different films for the album.

ALRIGHT YA RASCALLY ROGUES I'M LISTENING TO NOTHING BUT FLEMISH UNDERGROUND BLIPHOP BECAUSE THAT'S THE ONLY STYLE WORTH LISTENING TO AND EVERYTHING ELSE IS FOR WALLIES WHO LIKE SILLY POP MUSIC. SO FUCK OFF.

1) and you will know us by the trail of dead - source tags and codes

2) smog - red apple falls (cos its as close to hearing how some REALLY feels as you'll ever get)

3) isis - panopticon

4) dinosaur jr - bug

5) toucher - toucher demo

i'm afraid i've never really clicked with isis or understood why so many people like them. listened to oceanic, particularly "carry" millions of times but sadly it didn't move me.

i been listening to the people we'r supporting tonight.

and toucher obviosly

did they give you a demo?

the toucher demo is ace. i'm listening to it on me walkman at work now!

i think isis is specifically for those that love post rock (which i get the impression you don't very much) and metal. so its not for everyone basically. top band live though, unbelievably crushing feeling you get when they really go for it.

who's this band you're chatting about sate?

i can imagine they'd be ace live. i like post-rock, clocks (i think, what flavour post-rock are you speaking of?) - and metal too. i think what it is is if i want to listen to stuff that's slow and heavy, i prefer stuff like electric wizard and all the stoner/doom stuff.

what is post rock? like tortoise and liars and botch and stuff? i like those, but some of it i get a bit fidgetty and remote-reachy if it doesn't get to the point after about 6 minutes.

-Hansen
-Will Piper
-Billy Young
-Lil' Bow-wow
-McFly
-Sclub
-Blazin'Squad
-Jordon
-Vicky Beckham
-Beethoven
Whatever really, I like all sorts me.

that is, i'm not that partial to the stuff that has a slow quiet riff and then BIG LOUD RIFF and then slow quiet riff again. nor the stuff that has a slow quiet riff that gets bigger and bigger over the space of 26 minutes. there are always exceptions to the rules.

i mean, my favourite tortoise album is "standards" and most people fucking hate that one.

Have you heard Battles yet Clocko?

dunno. well it started with slint. i know that much, and then bands like tortoise and mogwai. i guess its basically long songs, with a build up and some sort of epic ending. botch are more straight hardcore, which i also love, and liars i find impossible to put in any box, since the 1st and 2nd album are so different.

i love electric wizard, although find his voice hard annoying sometimes. i guess thats another thing about post rock - hardly any vocals at all.

and yeah, it is fidgetty, but then you either appreciate the skill, or you get bored. most people get bored. for some reason i love it.

Boring.

standards is an odd one for tortoise. but its still good. just different. most people hate change in their bands, they just want repition. fucking boring if you ask me.

still not heard battles, although everyone informs me i'll be loving them when i get round to it.

ah i just put my real name on - the shame of it!!!

Shit! Me too!!!!

i can almost guarantee you'll like battles. yeh i've always thought it's best when bands change as long as they don't start diluting themselves or becoming wishy-washy (boards of canada i'm looking at you).

I haven't heard the first two Liars albums but I bought the third one yesterday. It's quite good. I guess I prefer Noise/Psych as a genre (i.e. Deerhoof, Boredoms, Black Dice, Animal Collective, Wolf Eyes, Hella, Battles) but I don't know how one would differentiate that stuff from Mogwai/Tortoise/GYBE!/etc. Just a different vibe but in the same style I guess.

The singer in Electric Wizard changed his style on the last couple of albums. "Dopethrone" will always be their crowning moment. On their last album I got the guy sounded like Liam fuckin Gallagher (not good).

do you want me to change it dicko?

nah man, its cool, cheers for the offer though.

i think you summed up the difference quite well wogan. post rock is what it is, and the other stuff you mentioned in more noise/psych. i don't think you could ever band them together anyway. they share similiarities for sure though, just not obvious ones. i reckon if you played a random human some animal collective, and then some godspeed, they'd never figure any relation at all!!!

dopethrone is an amazing album, damn dark, and slow, a proper stoner album which took the genre as far as it could go. which might be why they can't top it. i guess when you've made something that good its gotta be hard to pcik yourself up and do it all over again.

the stuff they did after was pretty boring. they got obsessed with being the heaviest band in the world but forgot to make it interesting or to juxtapose it with fast bits like they did on dopethrone.

i've had "cherry coloured funk" by cocteau twins playing in my head all day and only just got access to the cd right now and it was worth the wait.

What is best album?

i am listening right now to supergrass: the road to rouen. obviously it's not best album but it's surprisingly good, considering i stopped paying any attention to supergrass nearly 10 years ago. really chilled out and mature, but in a good way.

i am listening to the cure mainly

Best album? My default answer is Boo Radleys - Giant Steps because it's really eclectic and succesfully manages to incorporate britpop, dub, post-punk, psychedelia, electronica, ambient, folk, shoegaze, noise and everything else without sounding too forced and it's been a fave since i was 16.

I do get the feeling that there must be a better album in my collection, since I got that album in 1996 when I'd just started buying music. Funny how the significance of a new record dwindles once you have a large amount of cds.

Other, more modern contenders for the throne:

Animal Collective - Sung Tongs
Tom Waits - Rain Dogs
Pavement - Crooked Rain, Crooked Rain
Beach Boys - Smiley Smile
Autechre - LP5

and then there's things that I love by Aphex Twin or Lee "Scratch" Perry which are awesome but I can't pick an album.

Sates - I barely own any Cure. Can yu bring some round for me to copy at some point?

i hope you're not talking about breaking the law, however if one was to be breaking the law one may be able to get the cure off soulseek or one could get some burnt onto cd as one might have just bought 50 blanks from tesco for £10 yesterday.

yes please! one's computer isn't up and running yet.

gotta love the cure man. jesus. i was scared by them for years. never nice when you see the size of a bands discography and you know you'll have to invest time in them. but its worth it.

favourite albums is tough. ok computer always gets it for me. nothings ever made me feel like that one does, nor, musically speaking, has anything ever captured the level of emotion they manage. and many have tried.

aside from that:

queens of the stone age - self titled
interpol - turn on the bright lights
Godspeed! You black emperor - lift your skinny fists
massive attack - mezzanine
beach boys - pet sounds

but then there are bands (mogwai, nick cave and the bad seeds, led zepelin, jimi hendrix, kyuss, isis, etc) where its hard to choose on album over their others.

interesting choices clocko. agreed about ok computer, although certain things have kind of ruined it for me in the last 10 (10!!) years (e.g. a really anal book i read about it; thom yorke's growing pretensions; the fact i've played it to death; and i'll still never really like Electioneering very much).

electioneering is my favourite
:O

ahh, the old electioneering debate. i've been here before.

johnny described it as the only radiohead song he could dance to (obviously this was before idioteque). which is odd really considering ok computer is not really an album i reckon anyone would dance to.

i like it. it fits the lyrical mood of the album, makes perfect sense coming after fitter happier, and it rocks. which is nice on an album that a lot of people didn't like cos it doesn't rock enough.

i just don't like jangly electro-acoustic mid-tempo rock tracks too much. actually, isnt there a QOTSA track that sounds almost exactly the same as Electioneering? ("no one knows" i think it's called - i might try mixing them together or doing a mashup or something).

i disagree about "electioneering" being in the right place on the album. it disturbs the mood by being a relatively bland rock track after the disturbing chillout of fitter, happier. didn't really like "let down" a whole bunch either, it drags and it's all "tramliiines motorways and boohooohoo". the best Radiohead is when Thom stops trying to be wilfully depressing, because that's when it gets proper dark.

still, good album though!!

uh oh.

let down is one of my favourite songs ever.

and no one knows sounds nothing like electioneering. its got no acoustic for one thing. isn't bland. rocks like an actual piece of granite, and has a kick ass solo. not to mention that QOTSA are pretty much the polar opposite (in 'rock' terms) to radiohead. i think josh homme would do a tear if he thought he sounded like radiohead. god damn, this man was kyuss!!!

but i'd love to hear them being mixed together. that would be a dream!!!

I kinda think best album might be Human Problems And How To Solve Them by Lispector? Like, I really do. But that's only if you're allowed to count things like album art, the lispector story, that title...

March listless listening: Bonnie Prince Billy, Kompakt Total, that new Neko Case, Au Revoir Simone.

Lots of Beck lately, especially Sea Change. Sad music tends to be the best.

bonnie prince billy is god-like. the superwolf album is one of the greatest ever made. makes me happy and sad all at the same time.

Mr Puzzleworth, do you make music?

MD has gone to the dentist so loving a bit of Friday Ween safe in the knowledge no one who cares will walk in.
Yesterday best album was Danko Jones: I'm alive and on fire as getting all fired up about going to see them..
Today best album is Siamese Dream as meeting up with old school chums later and that was the soundtrack to one of our best years.
Tomorrow who knows..

ah siamese dream!

people are always recommending Ween to me but I've only heard one or two tracks - babs what's a good album to get?

Chocolate and Cheese probably as it's got lots of different types of weenery on it. They've also done a punk album under the name of moist boyz which was pretty good, and a country album, which is very very funny (best track is help me scrape the mucus off my brain), but my favourite's the mollusk, for "mutilated lips give a kiss on the wrist of the wormlike tips of tentacles expanding..."
You can stream them from t'internet.
Being dragged for drinkies... domage!
sianara happy weekends to all

i will check it. like the pavement-style lyricism!

have a good weekend, i'm off to see the mighty boosh LIVE!!

i got the best of yo la tengo on friday for like £4. virgin in stevo have a really good sale on at the moment.

"The Advantage"
too good, thanks a bunch/ton clocko for letting me in on this secret.

never heard of them - what flavour music? can i get one copy please?

I've mainly been putting my ear at Hansi, fucking sick! Defo get hold of some.

http://www.fan-shop.ch/images/hh_cdbo.jpg

the advantage are a band made up of doom metallers who decided to show respect to old school nintendo games by covering loads boss-level music.

now taking into account old-school games and the insane music they had on them, its incredible to think an actual band can replicate this sound with instruments, not to mention the speed they have to play at. i love it.

I ONLY LISTEN TO CLASSICAL AND CUBAN MUSIC I HAVE decided....

now I'm listening to Red Sparowes - Buildings Began to Stretch
again, and I love it, thank you again Clocko. You are my hero.

i remember when i downloaded that album, it felt like i had completed a bit of musical listening journey. its a special listen. new one coming out soon as well. if i could jizz in this box to show my excitement then i would.

wogan (or anyone for that matter, but i know wogans the man who's most likely to act) download an album called 'pink' by boris. it knocks several shades of shit out of me on every listen.

*downloads pink by boris*

i don't have the internets at home :-(

i've heard good things about boris though.

my tip for the week, even though it's an old tip from last year is "Apologies To THe Queen Mary" by Wolf Parade.

listened to a lot of Yo La Tengo, listening to Dinosaur Jr now.

good songs at the moment:

yo la tengo - little eyes
clap your hands say yeah - over and over
half cousin - girl
the knife - the captain
bryan ferry - these foolish things
black dice - endless happiness
the rakes - 22 grand job
wolf parade - sons and daughters of hungry ghosts
arcade fire - rebellion (lies)
jeff buckley - hallelujah
cocteau twins - cherry coloured funk

byeeeeee!

Apologies To The Quuen Mary is terrific, yeah. I have been on the Queen Mary! It's a bit boring.

I am listening to Italo Disco.

today i'm listening to a mixture of 12Twelve (nothing to do with the man they call dozen) and Ainara LeGardon, because they're playing at this fest in Barcelona, so i'm seeing who's good and who's cack.
Dicko, check out 12Twelve if you havent already, think they're your style.

i like the fact there's a band called "Hi, I'm from Barcelona"

today's deerhoof day, which i'm quite enjoying, what's worrying is the amount of people that want to download Ike and Tina Turner tracks off me.

ooh deerhoof! what album you listening to? they're great but also quite hit and miss. the green cosmos ep is good, especially the track that sounds like old boy. reveille is supposed to be their best album but i haven't heard it yet.

ahhh, deerhoof, i swore before i listened to them that they couldn't possibly sound as good as their name. i was wrong.

listening to Milkman album, seems ok

The new Streets album is frustrating! It's nowhere as near as good as the last two records but it keeps sticking in my head.

Today I am listening to:

ABC - Lexicon Of Love
Cheesy 80's album but really well written and quite funny. "Poison Arrow" is hilarious and great

Jake Slazenger - Das Ist Ein Groovy Beat, Ja
This is by µ-ziq's Mike Paradinas in an alter ego. It must've been seen as a joke when it came out in the mid-90s but now it sounds really fresh and fun.

today i am listening to:

liars - drums not dead. this album is confusing me a bit. its weird. its got weird sounds, and weird song structures. must be a grower. but i wish it would hurry up and grow!!!

yeh i'm still not sure about it. you got the version with the dvd? i want to like liars but there's something that doesn't quite grasp me. i reckon they could be ultimately improved with better production values on there. some bits i want to sound bigger but i find the drums are a bit weak (though excellently played).

i have had the mitchell brothers "a breath of fresh attire" on repeat for the last couple of days. it's the best british hiphop album since "run come save me" or "a grand don't come for free". it's really really really good.

plus the new album is like an exact cross between animal collective's sung tongs album and black dice's first one but doesn't manage to out do either (they're two of my fave noise records ever as well).

Paris to Berlin by Infernal
I love this song!!

please don't post as me, cheers.

i have been listening to "Odyssey & Oracle" by the Zombies.

I havn't.

i've been listening to lots of reggae and getting kind of into punk too.

I've been listening to you sing this at 500mph....

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/cf/Earth_Song.jpg

hahaha

sorry to disagree with you but i saw yo la tengo at a festival last summer and it was indeed one of the most ridiculous experiences of my life. they even did a strange dance routine as if to congratulate themselves on being so utterly bonkerzzzzz.

really? werird I'd have expected them to e a bit boring live.

shut up the lot of ya, yo la tengo are bloody great. no one album sounds like the next one, and they've been doing it for years. i love em.

The dancing queenies?

ghostwriter by RJD2

The only RJD2 I've heard was really really good.

I am listening to:

Zombies - Oracle and Odyssey
Fatlip - What's Up Fatlip?
Minotaur Shock - Maritime
Sway - This Is My Demo
Oneida - The Wedding

que?

100% rap
every day at least once. it are a classic.
http://www.townsend-records.co.uk/i/covers/3107385.jpg

i nearly bought that back in 94 but instead i got rap attack

wow, what does rap attack offer that 100% can't?
Also just noticed this:
ALRIGHT YA RASCALLY ROGUES I'M LISTENING TO NOTHING BUT FLEMISH UNDERGROUND BLIPHOP BECAUSE THAT'S THE ONLY STYLE WORTH LISTENING TO AND EVERYTHING ELSE IS FOR WALLIES WHO LIKE SILLY POP MUSIC. SO FUCK OFF.
-- FROMBERT SIM (SIMISGREB...), March 9th, 2006.

Is this the real bert? his style seems a little less hardcore. And if it is, then he has visited before does that mean he may return once more? hopeso!
my hands smell of apple hubba bubba pipe. most off putting.

I can't remember - I actually think I ended up plumping for Euro Dance 94 because the shop had sold out (I was 13 or something, k? Taste wasn't very high on my list). I know Rap Attack had "When The Ship (sic) Goes Down" by Cypress Hill and it also had BooYaa Tribe and House of Pain.

frombert will always be with us.

Joy

just like jesus but with fewer bitches