How mean is mean fiddler???

i ain't posting anything here.

Why not?

well, they did sell out of Reading festival tickets in about an hour.
So I guess that makes them mean. I still think they only sold a few yesterday, and they'll release more later.
Hopefully.

Oh for fucks sake, how boring! I thought 'The Mean Fiddler' was some kind of fairy tale or something.

gutted

fuck off tev, these are the best 4 days of the year, incorporating all the best things i enjoy in life, music, friendship, weed, alcohol, (maybe mushrooms), camping, a camp-fire, and so on.

i nearly cried when i saw it had sold out. an hour and a half of solid trying. i pray to god that latin is right. if not, its a bloody early trip to reading and get them on the door.

i think you mean satan!

While I was on holiday I thought of an idea for a reality TV show called "Elk"

The idea is that dumb familys sign up to take part in the show then we turn up and fit cameras all round their gaff "Grosse Brudder" style. Next we release a wild elk into there house and shut the door. Then they have to see how long they can live with the elk in order to get shit prizes and become "celebrities".

What do you reckon?!

My Sunia thought we could do a spin-off program if "elk" was a succuss called "Dachs" which would be very simular but with a wild badger involved instead of a elk.

no sate, i was defo abusing tev for his general indifference towards mean fiddler. nothing but hatred is needed right now.

and thats a great idea tev. there could be various stages on the programme. start of with an elk, then as the family survives they get harsher tests, leading up to a lion or something. i would defo watch that!!!

"i pray to god that latin is right. if not, its a bloody early trip to reading and get them on the door."
think you mean satan

i think elk's a good idea, think i'd prefer dachs though, but then it'd make a very short show, as the dachs would kill everyone as soon as it was released into the house/chalet.

oh yeah, i am doing a blind. sorry sate. not on the best of form right now.

Latin doesnt like Reading.
It's too much like fun for him.

does he really not like it?

why could that possibly be?

Reading used to be good and now it is full of cnts who love nothing better than to set fire to toilets, rob tents and pull down the camp site lights so people fall on you in the night, thus ruining your tent and breaking limbs and possessions.
Well that was my 2003 experience of it anyway and since then I've sulked and refused to go back.
Of course not living in reading anymore and having to pay MAY have something to do with new attitude.
But if you rilly want to go, no need to despair: there are always always tickets on the gates for reading... even in this new age of festivals being mainstream. Money grubbing bandits have no concept of maximum capacity or crowd safety.
Loving the reality tv format... but it's a bit shite for the poor elk. Maybe just a psychotic type armed only with a safety pin instead.

Nah, I forgot to mention that the elk has to be kept happy at all times or no cash for the attention seekers!

i think once you go to reading for free, you realise exactly how much of a ripoff it is. all those ticketless moaners should stop worrying, there are dozens of other festivals which cost less, have better bands, better grounds and accomodation and are generally all-round better than sellout Reading. and if you don't want to go to those, for only a few extra you could go to a european festival like that one in hungary. and if you still don't go to those then next time it rains i'll go round up a bunch of emo kids from dubhes and outside our house, buy a four pack of carling, take them to windmill hill where our tents will be set up and play a ghetto blaster with selected tracks by taking back sunday, less than jake and metallica on it. with nowhere to piss an abundance of corny underage mopers, shit beer out of paper cups, poo all over the place and loads of music you don't really like it, i will recreate the reading experience for only £100 a head. that's a saving of £30 from the actual asking price!!

hah, i jest though. reading is fun, i just think it's a con for what it is. it's the WAGN of british festivals.

I'm toying witht he idea of spending a week at the edinburgh festival this year though, since it's somethign a bit different. Would anybody else be interested in toying with this idea??

and also, since when did festivals sell out in two hours??? even back in the great britpop phase of festival madness did tickets sell out that quickly. it's all these posho kids who get their mums and dads to buy the tickets for them and if not they'll get into an emo huff about it.

Last year my Sunia and I went to 'The Big Chill' that was jokes, it was so posh there wasn't a burger van!!!

There was a stall just selling the Guardian and the Independent though. (I'm no joking)

that's cool and funny... what was the festival like?

Mate of mine has described it as the mature persons festival as it's too remote for horrid childs to access it easily. Unlike Reading. Where the epitome of horrid childs come from. Crack ho pikey ASBO spawn.

It was jokes! SOOOOO clean-living and trendy. We spent ages searching for a burgee/hotdog and there was no such thing. All the trendy bars and eateries from round Notting Hill and Brick Lane etc.. had their own really elaborate stalls selling soya and other trendy bath-dodger food at rinse-out prices. We saw one of the bars had a sign announcing; "3 jugs of cocktails ONLY £60" It was comedy. Luckily we got the tickets free off MTV so we just found it well funny but if you paid the full whack I dunno if you'd dig it so much. It was cool though, had a really good laugh and sold two other tickets we had on the gate. Kind of a festival for people who don't really like to get 'mucky' and associate with the last-season riff-raff.

hoxtonfest then? £60 for three jugs of cocktail? that's ridiculous - worse than reading in that i'd rather go to a festival with a bunch of green day fans getting fucked on super t than nathan barley.

just goes to show that the majority of british festivals are a rip off made by big companies like mean fiddler and virgin who think that £130 is a decent price to pay for a muddy, lumpy space in a field. i mean, i could go on holiday abroad and stay in a nice b&b for only a few quid more.

the reason all the tickets sold out this year "The Arctic Monkeys", which means there are going to be a lot of pikey ASBO spawn types there, but Pearl Jam are playing, and i've wanted to see them play since I began going to Reading. So i'm not missing it for the world.
There were a couple of years where things got totally out of hand, people pushing down the lighting poles and burning the porta loos, but they've done a lot to sort things out, the loo's are now guarded by a metal perimiter and guards so it's almost impossible to push any of them over, or set light to them. The lighting poles are no longer scaffold type things they're giant wooden poles like the ones that carry telephone cables, and the only way you'd move them would be with a chainsaw or a jcb or something. I've always found Reading to be great fun and full of sound people. It's just the odd few that try and ruin things but 99.9% of people there are like minded and out to have a good time and enjoy themselves. If you can't hack getting a bit dirty, or camping out for 4 nights then go to fucking center parcs,or anal world or something and get ripped off there instead.

oh i know it's good fun once you're there, and i know the mud is part of the fun, and yeh i'd love to see pearl jam and b&s live, but it IS a ripoff is what i'm saying sates, that's why i'm not going unless i get to go for free like in 2003.

also, fuck one arctic monkeys. someone's pulling some strings behind the scenes or something. there's no chance in hell they could be as big as they are.

Blanket's Dad might hire out Neverland to us as he's so skint! We could do a Toucher gig there for the kids?!!!

pearl jam astoria 20/04/2006 prices between £ 456.00 - £ 500.00
so I guess £130 to see loads of bands including Pearl Jam's not so bad?

arctic monkeys brixton 27/04/06 tickets cost between
£ 168.00 - £ 174.00

i WENT TO A FESTIVAL CALLED summer sundae last year in leicester. it had loads of new bands and i'm going again this year. I think it was one of the greatest festival trips i have done, except for reading 2000 when i did a compartmental ready meal replica sick in the bonfire outside Mike's tent before cremating my leg on a gas lamp and reading 1999 when i sold beers and was questioned by the police who took all my details and then we robbed a van and made sofas from crates of stolen beer and reading 1998 which was the first and the most exciting thing ever and 2001 which was the last and so mashup i think i truly didn't know who i was and enjoyed it!
Reading was actually pretty damn jokes, i don't think i'll go again though - will leave as a happy memories!

nice one sate for coming to the defense of the festival. and i agree. last year there was nothing, not one little thing that pissed me off. all the previous problems have been dealt with.

everywhere is a rip off. wherever you go. whatever festival. i looked at going to other ones in europe and the prices aren't that much different. plus you've got to add travel on top. which is expensive. reading is a rip off. but its the best valued rip off around, no contest. plus it nearly always has the best bands. pearl jam, belle & sebastian, maximo park, audioslave (only cos they play rage and soundgarden songs), futureheads, wolfmother, yeah yeah yeahs (one of best live bands who don't really recreate it on record). and these are on the main (rubbish) stage, the best acts are always on the smaller ones. i for one am excited.

and as for the arctic monkeys - i was there at the last reading before anyone had heard of them. they were on the tiny stage and there was literally thousands of people there, most of which couldn't get in, all singing the lyrics. and this was before they even released anything. people just love them. dunno why. but then this kind of mass reaction happens once in a while (eg the smiths, stone roses, oasis)

three words:

what about glastonbury?!!

also:

sates, where are you getting those prices from? pearl jam have a history of legal battles with companies like ticketmaster who charge highly inflated prices for their gigs. 90% if commercial gigs are dealt with by ticketmaster but vedder and the boys are opposed to it. I think you must be looking at touted/ebay prices rather than official prices.

Don't get me wrong, I really like Reading Festival and I hope you all get your tickets, but i'm simply not paying to go because I know I could do a lot more with £130.

i'm sure glasto's good but glasto's not on this year
that's why Reading's sold out so quickly.

exactly satan, exactly.

glastonbury is great, but there's not been one year since my festival going experience began that its had a better line up than reading. it simply doesn't have the same financial pull as reading

Yus tis a shame no glastonbury this year but I guess the cows wanted some time with their fields (note the Reading cows couldn't care less). The better/worse line up business is highly subjective- so your opinion and that of the record buying masses. and wot of it.

I heard on t'radio yesterday that the Leeds reading rock is better, seems highly believable as Reading is a horrid and nesty little town, mitigated in mankiness only by the beauteous museum, well and maybe the forbury but the rest sucketh mightily.
The betterness of Glastonbury lies in how many more stages and events there are and the fact it's not located in Reading.

I went to Donnington an few jahre ago and it was vrynice. mind it was also very sunny which always makes a difference...
haha just remembered they renamed it download
hahahahahahaha downwivdakidzload.

That was the best bit.

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not sure clocko. i tend to hate the majority of reading bands apart from maybe one or two these days. i miss the days when atari teenage riot, prodigy, beastie boys and monster magnet would play on the same weekend as opposed to the hordes upon hordes of haircut indie, welsh emo and crackerjack punk bands who pepper the lineup. eeehh maybe i'm just an old fogey. that or a wilfully obscurist muso cockhead. it goes without saying though that glasto and reading are incomparable. it's a completely different festival. at glasto people are still dancing around and partying at 7am. It's a lot bigger. There's a lot more of the elusive "festival people" of olde as opposed to that bunch of GCSE grads in baggy shorts yelling "BOLLOCKS" all the time (yeh yeh, I know). and clocks, i'm not that sure there's that much of a difference between the quality of the bands. what do you mean by "financial pull" though clocko cos glasto manages to be the biggest and best british festival without selling out (too much) to fuckers like mean fiddler.

oh god i'm ranting now. it's as if i hate reading or something when i don't because i love it and i've had loads of good times there.

I went on a quest for the mean tickets of reading today, i got to windsor/slough and they sold out, i went to reading and they sold out, i went home and cried... :( MEANFUCKERS

well latin you obviously don't like reading, as you've done nothing put try and rip it to shreds throughout this whole thread. once upon a time we were the "GCSE grads yelling bollocks all the time". i seem to remember that very well. now we're not, cos we are older, and our music tastes have changed. but there's still plenty of music to entertain, its just not on the mainstage. any concept of reading getting worse as we get older is just bullshit, we're the ones that change. i can imagine people seeing prodigy, beastie boys & atari teenage riot on the line up of a rock festival and thinking 'what the hell is this?', and now we're looking thinking 'what the fuck is chemical romance, franz ferdinand, etc, doing here'.

it doesn't matter anyway. half the fun, maybe even more than half, is all the other stuff i wrote about yesterday, the drugs, alcohol, camping, and most importantly friendship, which is what makes reading such a great experience. i've gone on years with great bands, and years with not so good bands, but i've still had an amazing time regardless. and it is stupidly expensive, but then i look back on it always with a huge smile, cos its essentially all the most fun things crammed into one space of time.

hehe, clocks, you'll notice my tongue was firmly in cheek when I spoke of GCSE students. I used to be the king of the "bollock" shout back in the day eeeehh ya where's me cocoa?

I wasn't trying to rip into Reading, more trying to justify why I'm not planning on going this year. Reading rules. Festivals rule. What I am saying though is if you guys can't make Reading for whatever reason (and I do hope you get tickets) then maybe we could all go on holiday somewhere, even if it's somewhere on these small isles. It won't be much more and it could be fun.

Even if you can make Reading, I have no other plans this summer so if anyone's up for organising something, do let me know!

Suggestions: Amsterdam, Barcelona, Edinburgh, Dublin, somewhere else.

Go on holiday with you lot?! You must be fucking joking!

nothing is confirmed, but there is a plan brewing for a trip to amsterdam around june time. as soon as i know more, i'll let everyone know. apart from tev of course. he can go on holiday on his own!!!

i am so at amsterdam in june. if it's sunny we could go camping. went last year and it was the best holiday i ever had!!

Yeah, camping in Amsterdam is the bast way to do it. I've been 3 times and camped only once and the camping trip was the bast. If you're gonna go camping there saty at 'Zeeburg' cos the other campsite is shit and run by a bunch of Wanns.

yeah, we stayed at zeeburg and it was ace.

right, i'll do some investigating.

and you can tell from the 'right' at the beginning of this thread entry that i mean business.

sorted! amsto here we come.

oh and sorry for coming off like an uppity schadenfreude spoilsport on this thread.

and i'm sorry for being a clock who can't even tell the time.

what is the time par hasard?

midnight i believe. there or there abouts.

WRONG!! It's 16:55 precisely.

Clocks, I thought you were supposed to be some kind of clock but you're not. You're a fraud.

Even a stopped clock tells the right time twice a day.

Not if it's a digital one you goon.

i told you i'm not a good clock. that why i theft them, to try and keep up with the time!

Do you write this comic Clocko?

http://img.timeinc.net/time/magazine/archive/covers/2005/1101050912_400.jpg

i contribute to it on a regular basis, although i was not on the committee that voted G.W. Bush as man of the year. in fact i nearly got sacked for trying to sabotage the idea. but thats another story...

Check this out (Clocko, I reckon you'll like this)

http://www.primaverasound.com/

jesus christ latin.....are you telling me that shellac, yo la tengo, boredoms, animal collective, dinosaur jr, flaming lips, lou reed, mogwai, and xiu xiu are all playing at one festival?

i think i just came!

yes. also i know someone who is going and he's booked an apartment in barcelona for the festival.

do you wanna go oder?

yeah i do by the looks of it. thought required before decision though, not to mention discussion with wife...

yeh, i need to think about it. i'd like to go. lemme know. adam and anyone else who might fancy going to a kickarse festival in barcelona lemme know.

DANCE DANCE EVERYBODY DANCE!

Tickets are about £70, return flight from Luton is about £100
then a decent hostel will be about £13 per night, which includes cereal type breakfast. So I guess total cost will be around £350 - £400 if you include eating out and getting barped etc.
But Barcelona is such a good place to be even without seeing the bands. If you're anything like me you will love this place.
If you can afford it then go. I will be.

Four hundred quid, Ich don't fink so.

as i say my mate is hring an apartment for the festival so that'll be significantly cheaper if he's willing to put us up. I might be well up for this, even if it will cost about twice as much as reading, it also goes on for longer i think...

i have that wealth. still haven't spoken to my wife yet though.

ok!