Is Religion just a load of rubb' or is it fucking wick' man!

;-) (joking)

Thing is, the world hasn't always existed as it does today, it used to be a barren ball of sulphuric molten rock and lava which got caught in the Sun's gravitational pull and began revolving around it. Because of the movement, and after several billion years, plant and wildlife eventually flourished and the seas started flowing and the land became fertile whereas the polar icecaps stayed the same.

If the Earth were to somehow become dislodged from its axis it would be disastrous because it would disrupt the gravitational flow, the icecaps would melt and it could even upset the trajectory causing all kinds of mess in outer space, possibly hurling the Earth into the Sun. Considering the size of the Earth, just 1 degree is a pretty massive move.

But it wasn't God who created the Earth as it is today, no way. The universe existed a long time before the Earth even existed, it in turn was probably part of a much larger piece of rock that ended up rotating the Sun. There are many scientific explanations about the history of the Earth and the galaxy and the universe. Einstein's Theory of Relativity is a good starter.

Now, if you want a good piece of pro-God debate, please consider the human eye. It's an argument put forward by our chums the US Neo-Cons (the same ones who are trying to get rid of evolutionary theory in American schools), who argue that you can't just evolve something as complicated as a human eye over millions of years, since what good is half an eye?

These people don't subscribe to creationist theory, rather a fairly recent pro-Christian theorem that tries to accomodate evolutionary science into the debate. The sad thing is is that every time they come up against any kind of difficulty in their argument, their answer is "God", which isn't really a scientific answer.

does that mean we risk smacking straight into the sun every single day?!!!

I went to the science museum in London a few months back and couldn't find the missing links from monkeys to humans which I thought was puzzling....

This is too hardcore for my brain. Now I will shut down

I don't necessarily like the Big Bang theory either but to me it's more feasible than creationism because saying things about the axis of the Earth being proof that God exists is a pretty transparent argument. It's a bit like saying that the law of gravity doesn't exist because birds and insects break it every day.

I went to the science museum in London a few months back and couldn't find the missing links from monkeys to humans which I thought was puzzling....

People have been looking for that missing link for years, don't know why you'd expect to find it in the science museum but good luck. I thought I'd found the missing link once while I was tidying the house but then I realised I'd accidentally walked into Crump's room ;-) ;-)

There isn't necessarily evidence of a real missing link existing in the world today. Most examples of primitive man as well as dinosaurs were only discovered in the last 150 years or so because it's only until recently that we've had the technology to go exploring frozen mountain ranges, where most of this evidence has been preserved. We do know an awful lot though about how neanderthal man was wiped out by homo (LOL! LOL! GAY!) erectus; about how other animals have come to exist and there is speculative evidence to suggest that man and ape most likely spawned from the same common ancestor. Obviously this ancestor would have been a creature that lived several million years ago up a tree in deepest Africa. Neither was it a particularly intelligent creature and so it's remains aren't likely to be found soon.

But just look at what farming can do to different animals. Notice how domestic goats have curled horns rather than the pointy ones of wild goats. Or how farm-produced apples are a lot bigger and with less pips than apples growing in the wild. This is human intervention at play here, but it's all relative. All we have done is accelerate the Darwinian concept of "survival of the fittest". The giraffe with the longest neck gets more food, lives longer, procreates more and passes on it's neck-genes to it's many children.

As for the schools thing, if schools can teach whatever they like then it would be a bit pointless sending kids to school really. Saying things like "you can't prove anything" is myopic - it's like saying you can't prove that 1+1 = 2 and it shouldn't be taught. We should be teaching kids what we have discovered so far, not what a 2000 year old book which has been handed down, transcribed, re-written to please the king, translated, lost, found, re-worded and translated again has to say about it all, and if evolutionary or big-bang theory is proven wrong, then change what we teach. We do this with all subjects, not just science. And that's what it is, science - not RE.
Remember there are more than just two theories on how the world was created, and if fundamentalist Republican conservatives are lobbying state governors to replace science books with the Bible then that's a step too far in a ridiculous direction. Not only is it offensive to science but to any non-Christians attending these schools.

Anyway, you knew all this so it's not a rant it's just what I think.

OTMFM. This alone would be a much better text than any religious scripture.

I think I was telling Satan (the Satan on this board, not the not-real Satan) about an idea I had for a film where someone finally meets God and it turns out he's a violent Bush-supporting southerner (with a no-doubt resplendent beard). It makes sense after all, you side with who supports you, innit?

Religion is death insurance. "Come to church man, do all this shit stuff like knock on Tev's door and try and get him to join up. Cos then when you die you'll go up into space er... I mean heaven instead of going down to hell" Yeah mate, what the fuck?!

What happens if you agree with being kind and fair and all that shit but you tell god he's a cunt all the time just to prove that you're not trying to strike a death insurance deal? Would he be all like; "Cool, you're genuine. Into heaven you come son! I can't beleive thoses fucko's who've been going through the motions at church every week thought they could con me, GOD! They're not gonna know what hit 'em when they kick the bucket."

Or whould he be all like; "You little tosser! I'm your boss for fucks sake, why didn't you worship me all the time you're going down bitch!"

or...

Would nothing happen 'cos you'd just be dead and you'd rot like all other matter?

Safe yeah?

FUCK OFFS!

Love from Tev.

Xxxxxxxx

According to C S Lewis in the Last Battle yes you can call god a cunt and go to heaven because he is only interested in all the nice things, doesn't matter why you do them or who for. the giant beaky evil oriental type non pukka mensahib god gives you hell credits for all your wicked deeds and all is balance and a poor semblance of political correctness.
But then C S Lewis was shagging his dead mates mum and was a little crazy anyway, so possibly not that on message wiv da lord.

Amen.

For that shit?!!!!!

ICH DON'T FINK SO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!