rolling (non-millenials) grabbing the brass ring 2015

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Owens looked great. For the first 1/3rd of the match he sat down outside the ring and watched and the crowd chanted: "Rest, Owens, rest!"

Mordy, Friday, 15 May 2015 14:03 (nine years ago) link

Corbin got boring chants too - hard for me to tell tho whether it was bc he was facing Rhino or bc people are generally cool to him. He was definitely in heel mode on the mic after the match. The Dempsy-Jason Jordan match was so bad, the crowd cleared out to hit the bar and bathrooms. People in both lines were joking that in NXT the Divas aren't the bathroom match, Bull Dempsy is.

Mordy, Friday, 15 May 2015 18:25 (nine years ago) link

the crowd at the last nxt episode was awful 100%

feel like sasha/charlotte are one of those pairings who are just going to be totally electric together for years ("wrestling soul mates" as ambrose has said)

qualx, Saturday, 16 May 2015 00:59 (nine years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHsuWP7q-mQ

Merdeyeux, Saturday, 16 May 2015 15:17 (nine years ago) link

I'm sad they've decided to go back to making Sandow a joke. Ascension is such a waste. Has anyone watched the whole PPV?

hourspass, Monday, 18 May 2015 08:18 (nine years ago) link

yeah. best things: tag match was terrific, bray/ryback overdelivered, main event was a lot of fun albeit predictable finish

fadanuf4erybody, Monday, 18 May 2015 19:45 (nine years ago) link

worst things: cena/rusev. i like both guys and think the us open challenge has been one of the best parts of raw, but christ this was unwatchable

fadanuf4erybody, Monday, 18 May 2015 19:47 (nine years ago) link

i thought cena/rusev was fine apart from the obviously terrible ending, though maybe 80% of the credit goes to rusev's facial expressions.

i liked that rollins got a clean win (errrr or as clean as you can get having three guys interfere on your behalf, i guess) and the shield reunion bit was great. would be good if rollins spent another few months trying to settle on a new finisher.

Merdeyeux, Monday, 18 May 2015 19:58 (nine years ago) link

yeah, tbf i think the ending really colored it for me. and i've probably just seen too many of these things, reusing spots from cena's older matches with umaga and orton stuck out. rusev worked hard as always, really hope this breakup doesn't leave him dead in the water.

fadanuf4erybody, Monday, 18 May 2015 20:57 (nine years ago) link

man i love the shield

a hoy hoy, Monday, 18 May 2015 21:12 (nine years ago) link

can't wait for MITB!

also uhhh elimination chamber

qualx, Tuesday, 19 May 2015 03:24 (nine years ago) link

Uhhhhlimination Chamber

qualx, Tuesday, 19 May 2015 03:25 (nine years ago) link

I am kind of fine with the idea of these short-notice mini-Ppv special provided they use them as an opportunity to let some of the mid card guys to go out there and tear it up in the ring without the pressure of a buyrate or whatever. The tag match elim chamber might be a total clusterfuck but it's certainly better than having a 4 minute thing on the preshow

Windsor Davies, Tuesday, 19 May 2015 17:07 (nine years ago) link

i am really really deeply excited to watch kevin owens do anything. so i guess i will watch uhhlimination chamber

Who M the best? (Will M.), Tuesday, 19 May 2015 17:58 (nine years ago) link

kevin owens is in uhhlimination chamber??? sold!

Mordy, Tuesday, 19 May 2015 18:05 (nine years ago) link

KO vs JC for USA strap!

Who M the best? (Will M.), Tuesday, 19 May 2015 18:55 (nine years ago) link

so kinda like the zayn/cena match?

Mordy, Tuesday, 19 May 2015 19:00 (nine years ago) link

hope KO powerbombs JC into the ring apron multiple times

Mordy, Tuesday, 19 May 2015 19:01 (nine years ago) link

did anyone watch raw? i only watched that bit bc my friend was like "WATCH THAT PART ASAP"

owens goes out when the open challenge starts, he and cena shit talk each other, he says he doesn't even want to fight for the strap, then he kicks cena and pop up power bombs him and u cant see me's him in the face. then steps on the us belt and holds up the nxt belt. guys it was the best moment.

Who M the best? (Will M.), Tuesday, 19 May 2015 19:10 (nine years ago) link

i love kevin owens so much

Mordy, Tuesday, 19 May 2015 19:10 (nine years ago) link

since the montreal one, the last couple raws have been shockingly solid tbh

fadanuf4erybody, Tuesday, 19 May 2015 23:38 (nine years ago) link

Shit so wrestling is really pretty good right now, huh? Just finished watching Takeover - Unstoppable, lordy lordy lordy but I never thought we'd see this

Windsor Davies, Thursday, 21 May 2015 09:43 (nine years ago) link

yeah, that said, i have to commit to not watching smackdown now, and maybe raw, even though it's showing signs of life. it's taking up all my free time now and i'm close to burning out.

qualx, Friday, 22 May 2015 01:45 (nine years ago) link

tbh i find myself increasingly taken aback at the very idea of actually watching an episode of Raw in this day and age, and Smackdown you gotta be fucking kidding me. i'm sure i'm not the only one feeling like this (honestly not trying to be a snarky little bitch about this but my god, who the fuck would watch 5 hours of contemporary WWE a week?!) surely the only sensible way to interact with this stuff in this day and age is to read the after-action reports while trying to remain as spoiler-free as possible and then checking out the potentially interesting stuff after the fact. sure you lose the element of surprise but on the other hand you avoid literally hours a week of total bullshit. i honestly can't imagine committing to watching a WWE TV show all the way through anymore, i can only just manage it with the PPVs, and this is during a period when the product and match quality is in a relatively good shape.

btw if anyone hasn't already seen it everyone should watch the Sasha Banks / Becky Lynch match from the other night, it was fucking next level good and more proof (as if any were necessary) that women's wrestling could totally be a major and important part of the show if anyone in a position of power were inclined to make that happen.

Windsor Davies, Friday, 22 May 2015 22:14 (nine years ago) link

i can't think of a better match in 2015, period

Who M the best? (Will M.), Friday, 22 May 2015 22:20 (nine years ago) link

you watch raw cause occasionally it's great. i'm glad i watched it a few weeks ago for the awesome sami (among other things) episode. it's been better lately, and there are inklings that NXT talent is on the rise. if enzo and cass are on the main roster how am i not supposed to watch come on. ideally, WWE goes back to giving the slightest shit about serialized storytelling and makes it actually feel like a tv show rather than a neverending buildup to PPVs. also back to 2 hours. i'll probably still watch :(

ONE thing that annoyed me about the sasha/becky match bc i guess i wanted it to go 100% perfect: there was a botch, apparently, where sasha took a suicide dive and becky was supposed to catch her, but becky got knocked over and quickly did a sort of awkward pickup to get in place. it wouldn't have been too bad if the announcer, whoever it was (brennan?) didn't call it like "uh... er... SHE CAUGHT HER!" and it just highlighted the botch instead like come on it's your job to not do that.

qualx, Friday, 22 May 2015 23:40 (nine years ago) link

I was wondering about that. Still though, those sequences were so good and made sense and HOLY FUCK their arms bend far

Who M the best? (Will M.), Saturday, 23 May 2015 02:24 (nine years ago) link

yeah that bit where Sasha wrenched Becky's arm back and stepped on it looked unfathomably painful. in fact the match as a whole had some of the most interesting and visceral limb-based story-telling I can remember seeing in, erm..... god I can't even remember.

Windsor Davies, Saturday, 23 May 2015 08:48 (nine years ago) link

I really need to see unstoppable. People are lauding it as the best ever american womens match of all time.

keeping up with wrestling seems impossiblE. Ive heard lucha underground has had some excellent stuff recently (best casket match in forever? 7 man ladder match?) but jeez ive got no time. Wrestling needs to stop being so damn good everywhere atm.

a hoy hoy, Saturday, 23 May 2015 11:59 (nine years ago) link

i still like charlotte/sasha better, but it was a great match and it had the feeling of being a main event even if it technically wasn't.

i've probably said it here already but LU is my favorite show on TV right now and should be the #1 wrestling priority for everyone.

qualx, Saturday, 23 May 2015 18:24 (nine years ago) link

that's kind of my deal wrt to watching Raw I suppose. I can only justify spending a certain amount of time spent watching wrestling per week (let's say in two longish sessions a week, on average, max) and in general I find i'd rather just check out the highlights of the WWE shows in that time.

This enables me to watch other cool and interesting new things from NJPW (still going back over the 2013/2014 G1 Climax tournaments too) or Lucha Underground or Evolve or whatever that I find recommended on the internet. I also like watching old shit that I enjoy but haven't watched in a while or have never seen before (e.g. watched the Chris Benoit / Kevin Sullivan Falls Count Anywhere match for the first time the other day, man how influential did that end up being, weird), or sometimes just odd cool stuff that pops up on the internet - the other day there was a Shinsuke Nakamura / Zack Sabre Jr. match from a UK independent show that popped up on youtube, for example.

That was really my point upthread, I suppose. There's so much great wrestling happening around the world right now, and such ease of access to awesome old wrestling from the past, that I just don't get why people would tune in to watch Roman Reigns fighting Kane to a no-contest for the 12th time this year or whatever. The pleasurable surprise of seeing something like e.g. the Sami Zayn / Kevin Owens debuts in real time just don't justify it to me.

Windsor Davies, Saturday, 23 May 2015 18:42 (nine years ago) link

you watch raw cause occasionally it's great.

i basically used this comparison when trying to get a wrestling fan to understand why i haven't missed an episode of SNL in like 10 years

Who M the best? (Will M.), Monday, 25 May 2015 17:02 (nine years ago) link

Going back to Unstoppable: as much as I've never really cared about Becky Lynch, I thought that her match with Sasha (who I love) really showcased her skill. I know Charlotte has often been billed as the powerhouse of the women's division in NXT, but Becky Lynch really proved herself. She earned those chants at the end.

hourspass, Monday, 25 May 2015 18:07 (nine years ago) link

she's been doing this long enough to have been legit retired at one point. her experience as an indie wrestler gets downplayed compared to everyone else it seems

qualx, Monday, 25 May 2015 18:18 (nine years ago) link

it seems kinda perfect that they downplayed it though, only to have it become part of the kayfabe around the time they finally built to this match -- if they had built to it while everyone else was in the spotlight she might have seemed like she was "stalling out" during the charlotte/sasha feud or like she sucked in the fatal 4-way. really impressed that they a) kept it on the DL for a while and b) put it out there EXACTLY when they should have.

Who M the best? (Will M.), Monday, 25 May 2015 18:43 (nine years ago) link

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Mordy, Monday, 1 June 2015 03:45 (nine years ago) link

STONE COLD v BROCK LESNAR IN TEXAS DEATH MATCH AT WM32

a boy can dream.

also asking paul heyman 'whats up with jewish conspiracys to own the media' out of nowhere on live tv may be the first time ive ever seen paul heyman speechless.

a hoy hoy, Saturday, 6 June 2015 07:53 (nine years ago) link

RIP Dusty Rhodes

Dadjokke (Sgt. Biscuits), Thursday, 11 June 2015 18:28 (nine years ago) link

wow rip

Mordy, Thursday, 11 June 2015 18:30 (nine years ago) link

:( best voice in wrestling

Windsor Davies, Thursday, 11 June 2015 19:38 (nine years ago) link

he will be dropping bionic elbows in heaven

panettone for the painfully alone (mayor jingleberries), Friday, 12 June 2015 00:11 (nine years ago) link

still have a nagging doubt this Ricochet-Nakamura match in London is gonna turn out to be a hoax
― Dadjokke (Sgt. Biscuits), Saturday, 11 April 2015 15:26 (2 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

YEP

Dadjokke (Sgt. Biscuits), Sunday, 14 June 2015 11:51 (nine years ago) link

Roderick Strong was a passable substitute tomato can to be kneed to pieces though

There is something intrinsically hilarious about rpw having now booked gedo/okada vs tanahashi/Liger in Bethnal Green for October

Dadjokke (Sgt. Biscuits), Monday, 15 June 2015 09:45 (nine years ago) link

Been watching back some of the Shield stuff in the last day or two and I've just hit their match with the Wyatts at Elimination Chamber 2014 (man oh man but wasn't that just a great fuckin' match?! in retrospect it was a p. much perfect payoff to almost 18 months of superb booking), and now there is a little distance I kinda feel like, at that point, who the hell could blame them for putting their eggs in Roman Reigns' basket? I'm watching this match knowing full-well what comes next and I stillp feel like he is just the BEST and I could cheer this guy forever. God I wish they'd reform The Shield. I feel like so many sins could be undone just by sticking those 3 guys in 6 man tag matches against the entire roster week-in, week-out.

Windsor Davies, Wednesday, 17 June 2015 19:19 (nine years ago) link

the bit early on where Rollins bails and Reigns steps in to take on Bray TOTALLY has the feel of two future mega-stars colliding for the first time

Windsor Davies, Wednesday, 17 June 2015 19:21 (nine years ago) link

also triple-team moves are the best

Windsor Davies, Wednesday, 17 June 2015 19:23 (nine years ago) link

the best of new japan go to bethnal green? interesting! i knew there was something around there as colt cabana used to pimp it on his podcast but to see actual stars 5 minutes away from work, im excited! anyone else go to these shows?

also poor colt cabana for the unintentional zing.

a hoy hoy, Thursday, 18 June 2015 07:00 (nine years ago) link

i'd like to go to the october rpw thing but it's a bit too close to deadlines, definitely hope to check it out at some point though.

i re-watched that shield - wyatts match a while back too and yeah it seems astonishing how much wwe managed to ruin two sure-things with reigns (though imo he's pretty much back on track now) and wyatt (oops maybe reigns isn't back on track after all).

Merdeyeux, Thursday, 18 June 2015 22:16 (nine years ago) link

though re rpw, i watch too many botch videos and now fear ever seeing independent wrestling live because it feels almost certain that i'll witness someone cracking their skull on concrete at a high velocity

Merdeyeux, Thursday, 18 June 2015 22:18 (nine years ago) link

I don't think there were any big obvious botches in the Sunday one, notably nobody really did any no-hands topes to the outside - there is definitely a more palpable sense of tension seeing high flying stuff live as opposed to on Botchamania, where you know if it's on there nobody got paralysed or died

The Matt Sydal 2/3 falls workrate match did have a reverse frankensteiner though, that one always makes me wince

Dadjokke (Sgt. Biscuits), Thursday, 18 June 2015 22:28 (nine years ago) link


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