Which "default" gimmicks, as in really common ones, do you love or hate? We decided that the best default gimmick is "old school heel", a guy who cheats to win, lots of holding the ropes, brass knuckles, backing off from his opponent, etc etc.
A thumbs down was given to "I have done quite well at another sport, and now I'm wrestling". Rubbish.
― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 08:52 (twenty years ago) link
I agree that this gimmick is pretty much always dud but I submit Kurt Angle as a shining exception. His initial heel run seemed something close to a parody of the gimmick. He kept touting himself as a "real athlete" in the vignettes.
Destroy the Anti-American Foreigner stereotype. I'm not against stereotypes in general (how could one be a wrestling fan?) but the details of the thing have to have some sort of creativity. I liked the French Canadian Rouseu Brothers from old school wwf days. They were so cocky and disingenuous. Most foriegn stereotypes are shrill and humourless.
― herbert hebert (herbert hebert), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 17:26 (twenty years ago) link
A pro-American McCarthyite heel could be cool, though.
― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 20:24 (twenty years ago) link
― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 20:44 (twenty years ago) link
Well the closest thing we've ever had is probably WWE champ Justin Bradshaw Layfield. Not exaclty a McCarthy-ite buthe almost comes off like a representation of Bush's America. In Canada he goaded the crowd for not supporting the Iraqi invasion.
The problem I have with Suzuki is that he's too much of an antiquated Japanese stereotype with the ceremonial entrance and the geisha girl. I kind of wish he was icy and ultra-modern.
― herbert hebert (herbert hebert), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 23:26 (twenty years ago) link
JBL made quite good sense insofar as if they were going to put the title on Eddie Guerrero to capitalise on their Hispanic fanbase, they needed a heel who would be the anti-Christ to those Hispanic southern fans. And a Redneck businessman was the obvious choice.
Other "default" gimmicks we should discuss:
Pretty boy heelMonsterRedneckGay
― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 2 September 2004 08:06 (twenty years ago) link
I like the slightly unhinged screwball heel (who often inexplicably thinks the crowd loves him) eg Matt Hardy V1 and Chris Jericho in WCW. And I guess maybe Bob Backlund during that bizarre early 90s heel turn when he said lots of long words and put people in chickenwings with reckless abandon.
― Fergal (Ferg), Thursday, 2 September 2004 16:36 (twenty years ago) link
When Terry Funk had his amazing 1989 feud with babyface Ric Flair, he was a bit redneck and a bit screwball.
― herbert hebert (herbert hebert), Friday, 3 September 2004 00:30 (twenty years ago) link
I havent watched the shows in about a month, but what the hell is up with this Carlito Caribbean Cool dipshit? Do we need another razor ramon already?
― bill stevens (bscrubbins), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 21:39 (twenty years ago) link
"I spit in the face of people who aren't cool"
― herbert hebert (herbert hebert), Thursday, 9 September 2004 00:40 (twenty years ago) link
― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Thursday, 9 September 2004 15:36 (twenty years ago) link
― Michael Philip Philip Philip Annoyman (Ferg), Thursday, 9 September 2004 16:14 (twenty years ago) link
― herbert hebert (herbert hebert), Thursday, 9 September 2004 20:20 (twenty years ago) link
― Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Saturday, 11 September 2004 01:19 (twenty years ago) link
― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Saturday, 11 September 2004 09:31 (twenty years ago) link
― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 12 September 2004 18:19 (twenty years ago) link
― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 13 September 2004 15:02 (twenty years ago) link
― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Monday, 13 September 2004 15:50 (twenty years ago) link
The list of hilarious Eudy anecdotes seems near-endless.
― Michael Philip Philip Philip Annoyman (Ferg), Monday, 13 September 2004 16:11 (twenty years ago) link
― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 13 September 2004 16:32 (twenty years ago) link
― Michael Philip Philip Philip Annoyman (Ferg), Monday, 13 September 2004 20:52 (twenty years ago) link