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Any reason why we shouldn't do this? Is it too risky?

I was browsing through some old CD-R's on the weekend. You guys should see Onita vs Hayabusa, Exploding Cage 1995.

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 8 December 2005 06:21 (nineteen years ago)

For those of you who've never seen the greatest ever moment in WCW, Booker T calls Hulk Hogan "nigga":

http://s40.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2HF3WZ18WES913G55NSNOYYXE6

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 8 December 2005 10:53 (nineteen years ago)

camp classic
http://s4.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=20LQYJJLPO7P93821CIACFFQ4G

austere masterpiece from the 70s
http://s43.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2BF9HHXE2FJU832SYN14VTW6TY

― theodore (herbert hebert), Friday, 9 December 2005 04:18 (nineteen years ago)

Hell yes.

I will post some stuff soon. I would suggest that we steer clear of footage that the WW3 owns, but it's not like they're going to show up and give us (all ten of us) shit for trading a few files.

Because I plan on posting a Shawn v Foley match from 1997 that has been completely forgotten even though it is a) great, b) pretty much the birth of DX.

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Friday, 9 December 2005 07:51 (nineteen years ago)

Onita v Hayabusa, FMW 6th Anniversary Show 05/05/95, exploding ring explosive barbed wire steel cage brass knux title match

http://s54.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0JQ6I2HIG0KTC1ZTLXPEOM4UGY

One of Onita's many retirement matches, and the match that made Hayabusa into a star. I'm normally not a big fan of these sorts of matches, but this one is very well worked and I love the cage psychology in it.

(the "rules": Pinfall wins the match. Each wall of the cage is covered in barbed wire and explosives. After 15 minutes, the entire ring is rigged to explode.)

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Sunday, 11 December 2005 20:28 (nineteen years ago)

Brock Lesnar does a shooting star press without landing on his head:

http://s54.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2B8N7I22O7RDF0I557FKJ55RAF

It's really too bad he blew the move at ManiaXIX, because seeing a 300 pound guy pull this off is truly amazing.

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Sunday, 11 December 2005 20:30 (nineteen years ago)

I'm glad I, er, finally got to see the, um, legendary Chamber of Horrors match. I love how the crowd is hot for the first couple of minutes (since it's a big brawl and the opening match of the show) and then goes dead quiet once the idiocy of the match sets in.

Jim Ross earned his paycheck -- he couldn't have sold the match any better than he did.

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Sunday, 11 December 2005 20:35 (nineteen years ago)

HBK vs Mankind, Sept 1997 (DX is born)

http://s39.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0WDGLRSGFJ20J2D2ZOGDTDZQJ4

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Sunday, 11 December 2005 20:37 (nineteen years ago)

Good stuff, ta.

― Michael A Neuman (Ferg), Monday, 12 December 2005 15:47 (nineteen years ago)

Even the botched Lesnar SSP makes the Kidman shooting-star-with-awkward-twist-to-the-side-on-a-dude-directly-beneath-the-turnbuckle-press look like a pile of fucking puke.

― Michael A Neuman (Ferg), Monday, 12 December 2005 19:01 (nineteen years ago)

Kidman almost never hit the move crisply. You never knew where he was going to land. Brock's SSP is picture perfect, and he supposedly used to hit it like that with regularly in practice and in OVW.

The general consensus is that Angle was too far away at ManiaXIX, but I've heard that he normally didn't have a problem hitting the SSP from 3/4 of the way across the ring, amazingly enough.

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Monday, 12 December 2005 19:18 (nineteen years ago)

~~regularly~~ regularity

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Monday, 12 December 2005 19:19 (nineteen years ago)

Thanks for Onita vs Hayabusa, I tend not to usually like the deathmatch style either.
However, one of the best matches I've seen is an electrified no rope barbwire match from FMW between Megumi Kudo and Combat Toyoda. I'd post it if I could. The electrocution spots are built up to perfectly. It's also interesting to see the large butch monster Toyoda project vulnerability after each successive fall into the wire.
I guess Onita vs. Hayabusa was as effectively cinematic with the use of the special effects gimmick surrounding the ring serving the performances and not overwhelming the performances of the workers.

― theodore (herbert hebert), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 09:18 (nineteen years ago)

Here's a fun little brawl
http://s32.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3VYD0RNG976910Y7HGP855K6ED

and here's a fun little spot-fest
http://s32.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2TYOKXJ5QXU641JT9YAQQXJRDZ

(sorry about the reolution quality on the latter)

― theodore (herbert hebert), Friday, 16 December 2005 20:19 (nineteen years ago)

Funk vs Tsuruta was great. I had never seen a 70's Tsuruta match so it was interesting to see him play the plucky underdog role.

I'd heard great things about that Hart vs Juvy match and it did NOT disappoint.

I wanted to post Tsuruta vs Misawa from 1990 (the match that made Misawa's career) but my CD is fuxored for some reason, so hopefully some other time. Check out these instead:

Chris Benoit vs Al Snow (1995). Watch Snow get the piss beat out of him (sorry about the video quality).
http://s52.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3Q2ZEWIX5BDGQ1J15XCPM81TXC

Hulk Hogan vs Great Muta (1993). Hogan in Japan = workrate!
http://s52.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2999ISUFM2IJZ1GGAQNNUX890W

― NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Monday, 19 December 2005 00:45 (nineteen years ago)

Joe vs. Necro Butcher Re-up
http://s53.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1JBRPZ7VOK2CH0FURH1J1G57DI

― theodore (herbert hebert), Saturday, 24 December 2005 02:18 (nineteen years ago)

I liked seeing Benoit so strongly booked as the dangerous badass in that match with Snow. I had seen practically nothing from his ECW days prior.

It makes me think of the story in the Wrestling Observer's Guerrero issue recently about Heyman's specific booking suggestions for Benoit and Eddy's wcw runs that Kevin Sullivan heard and rejected for whatever reason. Supposedly Heyman suggested to booker Sullivan that Benoit get a surprise victory over the Giant via cross face submission. That would have put Benoit over probably bigger than Biscoff and the committee ever wanted to. It's certainly an intriguing idea but I'm not certain as to how the audience would have taken it.

― theodore (herbert hebert), Tuesday, 27 December 2005 19:15 (nineteen years ago)

How far into The Giant's WCW career did Benoit debut at? My chronology of mid 90s WCW is kinda out of whack, but I'm thinking... about six months after he beat Hogan? That'd effectively put him over as a top-liner straight away...

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 27 December 2005 19:17 (nineteen years ago)

Well I can't remember exactly but it was definitely after the Giant beat Hogan, as that happened in 95 and I don't believe Benoit began until early 96. Even if Meltzer's story about Heyman pitching the angle is accurate, as a "What if?" the suggested scenario seems likely very far from being even entertained as a possibility by WCW's booking committee; Not at all in line with what their vision was for Malenko, Eddy, and Benoit's respective roles in the roster. I just like to think about what my reaction would have been had I seen it transpire back then.

― theodore (herbert hebert), Tuesday, 27 December 2005 19:43 (nineteen years ago)

It's interesting to think if either of the big two could have gotten over a "smaller" (5'9" through 6'1") guy over as a Taz-style "killer" during that time period. At a rough guess, no, but they did try putting over The Patriot as a top-liner, so who knows?

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 27 December 2005 19:48 (nineteen years ago)

Supposedly Heyman suggested to booker Sullivan that Benoit get a surprise victory over the Giant via cross face submission.

Didn't this happen during Benoit and Jericho's sortamegapush in spring 2001? Beating the Big Show didn't mean as much in 2001 as it did in 1996 but remember, he had returned at RR2001 and was being booked as a monster at the time. Also, Heyman joined WWE a few months earlier. Coincidence?

― NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 27 December 2005 20:03 (nineteen years ago)

Wasn't this around the time Big Show did a clean job for Matt Hardy?

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 27 December 2005 20:35 (nineteen years ago)

I don't remember that, but you could be confusing it with a countout loss against Jeff Hardy in summer 2002, just before he was traded to Smackdown and won the world title.

Yep, that looks just as stupid in print as it was IRL at the time. Also, I think the trade was something like Bubba Dudley + Big Show for Orton and Batista. SLIGHTLY unbalanced.

― NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 27 December 2005 21:28 (nineteen years ago)

>It's interesting to think if either of the big two could have gotten over a "smaller" (5'9" through 6'1") guy over as a Taz-style "killer" during that time period. At a rough guess, no, but they did try putting over The Patriot as a top-liner, so who knows?<

Its certainly possible, assuming it was booked correctly. Its kinda tough to fuck up a tried and true gimmick like what Taz had. Taz, after all, was clearly a wrestling equivalent to Mike Tyson in every single fashion (from the towel to "Team Taz").

― Alan Conceicao (Alan Conceicao), Wednesday, 28 December 2005 03:53 (nineteen years ago)

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