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Getting excited yet? Are there any matches you really want/need to see?

NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 7 February 2006 17:27 (nineteen years ago)

It's depressing to watching Edge draw insane amounts of heel heat while being shunted back down the card while HHH and Cena continue on a collision course toward a match nobody will care about.

NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 7 February 2006 17:29 (nineteen years ago)

I'm at the carwreck stage of my wrestling viewing experience, where I'm just hoping for more bad booking and terrible angles. I want to see that "fans will watch whatever Vince decides" theory really put to the test. I hope that they'll take the lack of heat for Orton/Angle and Cena/HHH as a sign that Michaels/Vince should be the main event at WM.

alex in montreal (alex in montreal), Tuesday, 7 February 2006 18:49 (nineteen years ago)

I want to see that "fans will watch whatever Vince decides" theory really put to the test.

yeah, but hasn't this repeatedly been put to the test over the last 5+ years?

kingfish has gene rayburn's mic (kingfish 2.0), Tuesday, 7 February 2006 19:21 (nineteen years ago)

hmm, perhaps, but i do get the feeling that the product is more divorced from what the fans want now more than ever. he's always been arrogant about his product, but there's something more confrontational these days, i find.

alex in montreal (alex in montreal), Tuesday, 7 February 2006 20:27 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah but that 50 year old lecherous old man with a junior high education demographic must be delivering some huge ratings for them right now. Think about it.

Stuh-du-du-du-du-du-du-denka (jingleberries), Tuesday, 7 February 2006 22:33 (nineteen years ago)

by his product do you mean the world's largest grapefruits?

ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 7 February 2006 22:51 (nineteen years ago)

I thought the Shane Mac cameo at the Royal Rumble was a sign that Shawn vs. Vince was going to be changed to Shawn vs. Shane... but it's not I guess. Ummm why not? Don't the fans dig watching Shane get all crazy in the ring and shit. Didn't Vince severely hurt himself whilst walking upright sometime last year?

I really think they could have kept the Edge-Cena feud going strong toward a Mania blow-off with Cena regaining the title. Something about Cena's character works far more strongly chasing the belt but I'm not sure what or why that is exactly.

theodore (herbert hebert), Wednesday, 8 February 2006 01:28 (nineteen years ago)

I think Vince needs to satiate his ego (er, in a different way than he normally would) by coming back from two torn quads and competing at Mania. Shawn will have to work magic like he did with Hogan, but at least he'll go over this time.

NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 8 February 2006 05:02 (nineteen years ago)

haha, more Eddyploitation on Smackdown... i'm really curious to see how low they'll go and i really hope it's rock bottom low (orton pissing on eddy's grave, sure why not?)... the best part? ABSOLUTELY NO EFFECT ON BUYRATES OR RATINGS... suckers be continuing to pay tickets and buy PPVs and Latino Heat t-shirts

alex in montreal (alex in montreal), Friday, 10 February 2006 16:59 (nineteen years ago)

Dom needs to make a ytmnd about this

alex in montreal (alex in montreal), Friday, 10 February 2006 17:05 (nineteen years ago)

Hahahaha. Seriously, they may as well pay an actor to portray Eddie's zombie now, its about the only thing they haven't done yet.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Friday, 10 February 2006 17:28 (nineteen years ago)

Nah, first they need to have a necrophilia scene with Eddie's corpse (the WWE needs to start with what they know). Then they can progress to using Eddie's zombie, provided they clear the gimmick infringement with the Undertaker first. Gotta keep the locker room leader happy.

NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Friday, 10 February 2006 17:41 (nineteen years ago)

I wonder if they're gonna add Eddie's name to Randy Orton's Legend Killer Tour T-shirt.

alex in montreal (alex in montreal), Friday, 10 February 2006 18:32 (nineteen years ago)

From Meltzer:

To make a bad angle even worse, Vickie Guerrero and her daughters will be stationed at ringside during the Rey Mysterio vs. Randy Orton match at No Way Out on 2/19.

alex in montreal (alex in montreal), Saturday, 11 February 2006 06:29 (nineteen years ago)

Vickie Guerrero heel-turn!

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Saturday, 11 February 2006 14:26 (nineteen years ago)

Undertaker vs Henry at WM22

Kevin Harris, Saturday, 11 February 2006 20:21 (nineteen years ago)

HBK vs Vince in a special guest referee match at WM,
Special Ref- Bret Hart (alternative) Stone Cold.
This is Fact.

Kevin Harris, Saturday, 11 February 2006 20:24 (nineteen years ago)

to update, Chavo Guerrero will be at No Way Out

Mad Dog Joe, Friday, 17 February 2006 22:23 (nineteen years ago)

tombstone on the world's strongest man!

ken c (ken c), Sunday, 19 February 2006 10:05 (nineteen years ago)

that undertaker angle match was good innit??/

ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 12:54 (nineteen years ago)

So four-way match at WM, or triple threat, or *shudder* Angle vs Orton?

I think it'd really boost Carlito's character to carry around Money In The Bank for the year. I'm guessing Kane, Masters, possibly RVD and Shelton if they're not going with a IC match.

alex in montreal (alex in montreal), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 13:28 (nineteen years ago)

Carlito as the MITB champ would be, ummm, Money In The Bank, especially if they _are_ going to put the title on Rey sometime around Summerslam, because proud honourable Mexican vs cheating cowardly Puerto Rican would draw KILLER heat around the Mexican immigrant community.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 14:15 (nineteen years ago)

The MITB match will probably suck though. Look who's gonna be working it. The payoff to last year's match might have been killer, but it could have been better if there had been some buildup over the course of the year. I guess Edge wasn't allowed to talk about his title shot lest he distract people from the HHH v Batista feud part XVIII.

NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 20:30 (nineteen years ago)

Cena is getting ROASTED in D.C., HHH is getting cheered by default, and I'll be shocked if the same thing doesn't happen in front of a more cynical Chicago crowd at Mania.

Note how HHH "tries" playing the heel but gets to take funny/true shots at Cena ("you're not a very good wrestler", "your one big move is pumping up your Reeboks"), while Cena gets to respond by kissing HHH's ass ("you are a 10 time champ", "you don't need the belt to walk to the ring and call yourself the best wrestler alive"). Jesus H.

NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 04:20 (nineteen years ago)

- Every opponent kisses up to Triple H when kicking off a feud, but yeah, way to make Cena look like (more of) a total tool. How hard is it to make him a bad-ass? This 'aw shucks' underdog character does not work. Geez, make a threat or something. Fans are not turning on him 'cause he sucks in the ring (that's just additional ammunition), it's because his character is totally cheap sauce.
- Wow, Michaels' outfit is gay(er than usual). Is he wearing a low-cut dress?
- I like RVD the character, but RVD the wrestler has gotten worse and worse.
- The IC title not being defended at WM is bullshit.

alex in montreal (alex in montreal), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 04:42 (nineteen years ago)

Agreed on all counts. But doesn't Taker wear those low cut tank tops also?

I actually got a bit excited when Benjamin's match was announced because I thought that someone like Flair would interfere to set up an IC title match at Mania (particularly after his promo where he said we hadn't seen his last title reign).

So now Flair is in the MITB ladder match (surprise!!) and I assume that Carlito will find a way to qualify, leaving us with Carlito vs Benji vs Flair vs RVD vs two others. I'm guessing that they're looking for Show and Kane to defend the belts at Mania (interpromotional tag team turmoil?) so the two others are ... Masters and ?

NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 05:00 (nineteen years ago)

I looked at the RAW roster over at WWE.com (OMG NSFW -- explain this shit to your co-workers) and the only person who has been winning and not in a match yet is... Goldust. So I think Kane and Big Show will be in it, with Carlito on the outside looking in, which can be something else to slowly turn him from comedy heel to a serious one.

alex in montreal (alex in montreal), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 05:14 (nineteen years ago)

I'm also willing to overlook Edge's modified definition of transitional champion (= short-term champ) but not HHH's (= champ who happens to get lucky and be in the right place at the right time). Cena has had the belt for a year, ffs.

NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 06:30 (nineteen years ago)

And I didn't appreciate the full-on gayness of Shawn's shirt/dress until he came out during the Kiss My Ass segment. He looked ridiculous.

NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 06:34 (nineteen years ago)

HHH-Cena:The Showdown
I'm wondering what Vince, Steph, Hunter, and Cena each felt was accomplished by that segment afterwards. I suppose I want to see their Wrestlemania match in a sense. But their show business objective isn't to build morbid curiosity in an interesting disaster I don't think.

I too often ask myself what the creative directors at the helm are thinking but then I remember that these are the same people that thought last year's Wrestlemania would be headline by HHH vs. Babyface Orton months ahead of time but needed to be repeatedly told "NO!" before shifting gears. Maybe this is like that but now they are without the time left to change direction and prevent the massive crowd rejection by the time of the PPV.

theodore (herbert hebert), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 08:40 (nineteen years ago)

Still don't care about Cena-HHH.

Big Show has had his work boots on lately.

Edge is now officially a midcard afterthought.

Torrie is a billion times hotter than Candace will ever be (btw Scooter Keith's site has a link to Candace's P14ybOy pics -- meh).

It looks like Steph had the implants removed and is going for the fat preggers mommy tits look. I guess she's planning to breast feed, or something.

NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 04:26 (nineteen years ago)

I think this interview with Edge gave me a bit of hope for his WM match against Foley.

Didn't really watch RAW this week because of '24' and Habs-Flyers, and after the awesomeness of those two, Vince's rasslin' just seemed so moronic and drama-less. I officially am cheering for morbid trainwreck wrestling: I want the worst card for WM, the most blatant killing of any non-HHH/McMahon characters and more bad porno acting.

Y'know, all this SNME/HoF nostalgia has gotten me thinking... what will the common fans remember as magic moments ten years from now? I mean, for nerds, they'll say Benoit/Eddy at the end of WM or the spontaneous Benoit ovation at Royal Rumble, but I suspect most kids won't hold that as their ultimate MAGIC wrestling moment. That aura is gone.

alex in montreal (alex in montreal), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 16:47 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, that was a great interview. Foley looked REALLY out of shape on RAW last night though. History has shown that Fat Foley = crappy match, almost every time.

what will the common fans remember as magic moments ten years from now?

Depending on the time frame for "now",

Rock vs Hogan I (the staredown)
Benoit/Eddy WM XX (I hate to say it, but that moment will mean 1000000X more to casual fans because of Eddie's passing. Six months later, both guys were midcarders again)

a personal choice: Batista turning on HHH after months of fantastic buildup. Other than the Angle/HHH/Steph feud from 2000 (er, before they blew the payoff), that's the best angle HHH has ever been involved in (yes, better than DX vs Nation).

NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 19:06 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, forgot about Rock/Hogan (even though I was there... I had actually forgot my ticket in Montreal and had it Greyhounded to Toronto 30 minutes before the event).

In a way, it's up to WWE to cement the magic moments. If they continue to show that Benoit/Eddy ending, it'll become magical.

Agreed about the Batista angle. I wonder if he'd be an even bigger star had he stayed on RAW (and if Cena would have the reactions he gets now if he stayed on Smackdown!).

alex in montreal (alex in montreal), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 20:13 (nineteen years ago)

Batista didn't really have many opponents left on RAW. Then again, his character was into Goldberg 1998 territory (on a smaller scale though), where the fans didn't really care who he fought, they just wanted to see him beat the crap out of people. His storyline with Eddie was the first one to show a bit of depth beyond that. Originally I thought they were going to follow through with Money in the Bank after the HHH feud and build to Batista vs Edge at Summerslam, but I don't think that would have turned out as well for Edge as his victory over Cena did (er, before Edge got cut off at the knees).

One more thing about RAW: They buried Stacy! They sure didn't waste any time, etc. I actually like the way WWE buries people who talk shit about them -- burying Chyna by letting Molly use the handspring elbow (which was a million times better than Chyna's) was one of my faves in that respect.

NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 21:12 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, the Eddie angle was great, but besides him, Batista's opponents were JBL, Randy Orton and Mark Henry... I remember the Batista/Angle "match" on RAW was pretty huge in terms of "wow, this could be quite the dream match".

alex in montreal (alex in montreal), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 21:44 (nineteen years ago)

I enjoyed the way the smackdown booking team was building the Mark Henry-Batista feud. It's actually not hard to build a credible, threatening challenger. JBL was a poor choice for Batista because he had just lost several times in high profile matches to John Cena. Those losses were too recent to be forgotten or erased with one "winner gets a title shot" match on weekly tv.

theodore (herbert hebert), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 04:49 (nineteen years ago)

Hmm, should I watch 24 during RAW's first hour or its second? I'd check on WWE.com to see what's on tap tonight, but I ain't risking another "huge picture of a man kissing another man's bare ass on my screen" incident at work.

alex in montreal (alex in montreal), Monday, 13 March 2006 21:13 (nineteen years ago)

One's default choice is usually the second hour, but in tonight's case you might not see much wrestling because the main event will surely be the BIG CONTRACT SIGNING between THE KING OF KINGS and his Wrestlemania sucker/opponent.

NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Monday, 13 March 2006 21:55 (nineteen years ago)

Contract signing? What's the justification for that? That's so fuckin' random.

RAW's on at 11pm anyway, because of (thanks to?) curling.

alex in montreal (alex in montreal), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 02:10 (nineteen years ago)

This show is sucking so bad.

Making fun of their own drug testing program before it even starts -- nice one.

I feel bad for the Spirit Squad. Those guys were killing themselves inside the cage getting their asses kicked 1-on-4 by Shawn, only to have fucking SHANE come out and destroy Shawn in 10 seconds all by himself.

NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 05:46 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, and Edge needs Lita's help to beat GOLDUST??????????????

The Mickie-Trish angle is by far the best thing on WWE programming right now. It's not even close. Mickie takes out Torrie so she can tag with Trish and turn on her once and for all -- awesome!

NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 05:49 (nineteen years ago)

Not only does she attck backstage but her evil plan had the false evidence/frame job element of implicating Candace and Victoria in the assault. I actually liked how the announce team expressed obliviousness to the coming swerve.

This angle hasn't consistently been awesome though, they didn't need to go all "single white female" and involve an actor playing Trish's boyfriend. I could have also done without Ashley being involved in any capacity.

"It's not even close."
I really don't know about that. The last 5 weeks or so of Smackdown I've seen have been very fun. A minor higlight of my week has been downloading each new episode.

theodore (herbert hebert), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 06:43 (nineteen years ago)

Really? I don't get Smackdown! and I *could* download it if it's worth watching. What have been the good stuff on Smackdown?

alex in montreal (alex in montreal), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 13:45 (nineteen years ago)

I don't get it either so I have to download it.

Since it is the WWE SD! could very well start sucking again but
recently overall Smackdown has been maintaining storyline continuity far better tha Raw does. Recently it's more like a traditional wrestling show that builds anticipation for matches. The perversely hateful McMahonisms and sitcom writer schtick are far less permeating since Vince and Steph apparently care less about SD! than Raw.

Booker T's heel run has been way fun. He had a best of seven series with Benoit for the US title in which a groin injury forced him to use Orton as his replacement.

The sociopathically violent Irishman Fit Finlay debuted and has been tearing it up with stiff looking offense. Right now he's in a program with Young Black Hulk Bobby Lashley after costing him a match against JBL. The two have got into these uncommonly well staged (army of security guards pull em apart) brawls.

Kurt Angle is the babyface champion but instead of being a neutered panderer to the fans like practically every WWE face champ, he's retained this serious competitive killer aspect of his character. It's really the best use of the Kurt Angle character at this point in his career.

There was a near perfect six man main event from about two weeks ago JBL, Orton, and Finlay vs Angle, Benoit, Mysterio, and Lashley. That's what I would track down.

Oh and MNM are one of the greatest tag teams of all time and they usually do stuff every week. Unfotunately their fantastic match with Kendrick and London was on Velocity last week but not everything is perfect.

theodore (herbert hebert), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 17:52 (nineteen years ago)

hey this iz for alex in montreal i saw what u wrote about eddie and i think ur a fucked up piece of shit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

zack, Saturday, 18 March 2006 23:10 (nineteen years ago)

Fairly decent hard sell for Mania tonight. Good job of polishing the turd. Hell, even Cena was massively over as a face.

Foley looks to be in decent shape, but they're going to have to bust out some insane shit to live up to what they've teased in their promos.

Rather than cutting a promo on Cena in the ring, HHH got a five minute promo video to talk about the champ's lack of talent. He was also shown training with a former Mr. Universe, and other WWE stars such as Foley and Angle talked about how great HHH is and how the business revolves around him. Cena ... well, he got to save Shawn Michaels after his match.

Vince has been dipping into Hogan's spray-on orange tan kit. He continued to channel Hogan by engaging Cena in tests of strength, dueling knucklelocks, and twelve minute lockups. I have to hand it to the WWE though -- if you want to make your champion look like a total douche, having his ass handed to him by a 60 year old non-wrestler is the most effective way to do it.

At least Trish vs Mickie should be good.

NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 03:10 (nineteen years ago)

To be fair they did give Cena his own video package of equal cinematic shine and running time that preceded the one for HHH.

All and all there are probably more matches I want to see this year than last year's Mania.

What really seems off about the McMahon-Michaels feud is Michaels' very awkward babyface performance. I mean, the McMahons ARE pretty over as heels and the things done to HBK have been mean-spirited and twisted enough for the audience to want to see him get revenge. But Shawn hasn't really given a promo in which he's talked the audience into buying a ticket, to want to see him achieve the release of revenge satisfied. Hell, he could even bring the biblical shit into it. Basically, I think he should have promised to outright murder Vince McMahon in the center of the ring in the main event of Wrestlemania.

theodore (herbert hebert), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 04:32 (nineteen years ago)

I'm not sure how I missed the Cena montage!

You're right, Shawn should have done more talking during this feud. Shawn's been put through so much bullshit and humiliation, you could see his temper starting to boil over even though he wasn't speaking up. Eventually he should have snapped. However, that's been the script for every Mick Foley feud since 1999, including the present one with Edge, so maybe they didn't want to tread the same ground. Still, there has never been a reason (in storyline terms) for the Shawn-Vince match to take place. One day, Vince said that the match was on and that was that.

NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 05:16 (nineteen years ago)

OK serious question: Art Brut or WrestleMania this Sunday?

Started watching a bit, but I'm getting insanely apathetic about this whole mess. The Shawn-Vince feud is too ridiculous; I cannot suspend enough disbelief that Vince can last more than 1 minute in the ring with Shawn Michaels, especially the latter has been taking Kurt Angle to the limit in the past year.

As for Cena-HHH, does it really matter? The only right ending is Ric Flair cashing in on his Money In The Bank after HHH wins it, and Flair dropping it to Edge at Backlash.

alex in montreal (alex in montreal), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 12:40 (nineteen years ago)

Re: McMahon-Michaels and HHH-Cena, I haven't liked the concept behind either of these matches from the beginning nor have I particulary enjoyed the build-up.

I'd honestly like to see Benoit-JBL, MITB2, Mickie-Trish, The Smackdown title threeway and I suppose I'm curious as to how they plan on putting the tag titles on Masters-Carlito.

But if instinct is telling you not to give your money to the McMahon family then perhaps it's best to not allow anyone to talk you into doing so.

theodore (herbert hebert), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 16:18 (nineteen years ago)

Nah, it'd be going to a bar... I have not put any money into McMahon's pockets since driving to Toronto for WM18.

See, part of the fun of watching PPVs in bars is just getting into the drunken rowdiness of the people there... however, I saw Royal Rumble in that setting and besides the RR itself, everything else was boring because of the build-up. The atmosphere will be highest for Vince-Michaels simply because it's the one that got the most build, whereas JBL/Benoit will be probably 2nd or 3rd from the top and ignored. WWE has not done a good job in getting us emotionally invested into anything else, including the Smackdown 3-way.

I think MITB2 will be the only saving grace for viewing it in a bar (spotfest + Ric Flair = attentive and excited crowd).

alex in montreal (alex in montreal), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 17:04 (nineteen years ago)

I cannot suspend enough disbelief that Vince can last more than 1 minute in the ring with Shawn Michaels

Bbbbbbut last night it was a virtual stalemate between Vince and Cena! What about Vince's man-boobs? Huh?

I'm very skeptical about MITB2. The guys in last year's match are human highlight reels who are used to working ladder matches and with each other. There are a lot of mismatched styles amongst the guys this year. Anything other than a Flair or Benjamin win would be madness, although I can kinda see the logic in Lashley winning if they want a fresh face to feud with Orton (if Orton wins the title).

The best place to watch a major PPV is in a bar, no question.

NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 17:36 (nineteen years ago)

I watched last year's Wrestlemania in a bar, it was a blast to hear the other patrons around me audibly excited by Shelton Benjamin's sprint up the ladder spot during the MITB. They were also very hot for the main event as well, reacting with concern to the near falls and such.

theodore (herbert hebert), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 17:42 (nineteen years ago)

My hope with MITB2 is that Lashley and Finlay don't cancel each other out by brawling with each other; I'd like to see Finlay interact with some of the Raw guys, particulary Flair. But yeah, this year's is decidedly more thrown together with guys whose talents don't exactly suit that style of match. It might turn out to be just weird enough.

theodore (herbert hebert), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 17:55 (nineteen years ago)

RVD and Finlay might have some nice exchanges, with Finlay leaning into those kicks like a man and with fair being fair, Finlay will get to dish out some nasty stiff shots.

I like the different styles... you can't have 6 stuntmen in there either.

alex in montreal (alex in montreal), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 19:12 (nineteen years ago)

kingfish already linked to this on ILE but it should be here too:

http://www.theonion.com/content/node/46687

"The idea that these Mexicans are somehow stealing jobs from American wrestlers is ridiculous,"McMahon said.

"After all, someone's got to take these folding chairs to the face." McMahon then picked up a folding chair and whacked Rey Mysterio Jr. in the face.

NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 05:02 (nineteen years ago)

The image of Mexican wrestlers high-flying over the border is hilarious.

http://www.theonion.com/content/files/images/Illegal-Mexican-Jump-C.article.jpg

alex in montreal (alex in montreal), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 12:20 (nineteen years ago)

This might be the worst case of company ass-kissing I've ever seen:

http://www.wwe.com/inside/news/stylestalks

None of this makes sense, in or out of the storylines. JR is supposed to be fired (in the storylines) and they've never explained why he suddenly appears to call SNME and Mania. Out of the storylines, JR is supposed to be old and stale, so why bring back a stale character for the WWE's highest profile shows?

In part, I think this is about the WWE trying to cater to the "casual" fan base who they want flocking to their product. If those people turn on SNME or Mania and don't hear JR's voice, they might think that the sky has fallen in WWE since the last time they watched. It's all about presenting familiarity to the casual fan -- this also explains Austin coming back to do jack shit on SNME for 15 minutes.

NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 30 March 2006 16:21 (nineteen years ago)

What's wrong with being a team player? Styles admits that he did not fit the WWE play-by-play/storyteller role well initially, and JR is now helping him. He is disappointed by it, but he seems pretty realistic and humble.

WWE itself is stale; almost every single one of their wrestlers became stale before they woke up and repackaged/fired the wrestlers or changing directions.

Y'know, with the whole Cena debacle, I wonder how long it'd be before the audience turns on everything Vince tries to shove down their throats.

alex in montreal (alex in montreal), Thursday, 30 March 2006 19:58 (nineteen years ago)

First, there's the unsettling matter of the "WWE Style" homogenization spreading from the wrestlers to the announcers. Second, there's an uncomfortable amount of "mea culpa" in that interview. It's like his pre-WWE work didn't amount to much and now he needs to be reprogrammed as to the proper way to call a match.

I'm somewhat sympathetic when the issue is specifically about Mania because nobody calls the epic main event match quite like Jim Ross. But I don't understand why they would hire a guy like Styles on the basis of his ECW work and then prevent him from using the skills that made him such a popular announcer while he was there. Let the guy adapt his style to what the WWE wants without forcing him to be more like JR. Styles knows what he's doing, it's not like when Michael Cole started out and he was so bad that they fed him all his lines and was constantly spouting JR-isms.

NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Friday, 31 March 2006 03:23 (nineteen years ago)

Maybe I've resigned to the fact that WWE sticks to its style regardless of what's going or has been going on in pro wrestling, but Styles (and everyone else) should've known that they hired him as damage control over the JR deal, because of his reputation. When you decide to work for a company in any industry, you abide by their rules and policies.

I personally think that the WWE announcing style is retarded and the "Main Event" style is stale, but any announcer or wrestler who signs with them and expects to continue to do sarcastic play-by-play or work a high-spot/stiff style is incredibly shortsighted and naive.

Y'know, Bischoff wanted to win and while he had an ego, he was happy just to introduce the luchadores and the new style of wrestling (Benoit, Malenko, Jericho, Eddy) into his creation, Nitro. MacMahon's ego is bigger than that; he needs to create everything. The wrestling style, the announcing and the characters must have the unmistakable MacMahon stamp on it. I think it'd eat him alive if Kendrick/London/Noble introduced their style successfully (i.e. make money) to the audience without his heavy hand in it.

alex in montreal (alex in montreal), Friday, 31 March 2006 13:12 (nineteen years ago)

I just watched the HOF inductions -- the first couple of hours were hit and miss, but the final hour, with Mean Gene/Eddie/Bret was amazing and very emotional.

Neither Vince or Shawn were there (?) but there were a lot of boos any time their names were mentioned. Should be an interesting match later today. But that was nothing compared to Cena, who was booed literally every time he opened his mouth. Then the crowd started chanting for HHH, probably out of spite. Can't wait for that trainwreck of a main event.

NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Sunday, 2 April 2006 20:30 (nineteen years ago)

There's a live report of the ceremony on the WO website and it looks like they edited the hell out of Bret's speech.

NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Sunday, 2 April 2006 20:45 (nineteen years ago)

It also claims that Shawn was there for Bret's induction, FWIW. I didn't see him on camera though.

NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Sunday, 2 April 2006 20:45 (nineteen years ago)

Styles' problem is that vince doesnt want a commentator who actually commentates the match! He would rather have a commentator who does nothing but put over wrestlers and talk about the storyline

McDead, Saturday, 8 April 2006 00:14 (nineteen years ago)

Wrestling has gone to shit since the attitude era ended! and what are wwe doing , bringing in all these crap new wrestlers for? they will never be any good!

georgie, Saturday, 8 April 2006 10:17 (nineteen years ago)

HBK walked out right before Bret's induction

Aarond, Sunday, 9 April 2006 23:50 (nineteen years ago)


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