A pretty poor PPV, I thought.
Eddie having to cheat to beat Luther Raines - they should have done more with Gindrach or whatever his name is to necessitate Eddie getting cunning - and I'm surprised he's moved so far down the card so quickly, as I thought he performed superbly as champ. He wasn't featured in the promo trailers.
Spike vs Nunzio is third rate stuff, and Paul London vs Billy Kidman isn't much of a step up. By this point Michael Cole has twice described the main event as a "first ride match".
The big tag title match has four good wrestlers, but they are hardly teams - I don't think there's much the WWE needs more right now than a couple more really strong tag teams. Also, Kenzo Suzuki looks all right when on the offence, but he sold the 619 very badly, and grabbed the ropes too late on the win.
Big Show-Kurt Angle is a solid PPV match in theory, but it wasn't terribly interesting, and Show really didn't nail the chokeslam at all.
No battle rap from Cena? Why not? A predictable result, with the lamest big star finisher ever. He has the image, the promo skills, the looks, the body - if someone can turn him into a real wrestler, he'll be huge.
They didn't seem to do anything much with the weak Jackie vs Dawn-Marie rivalry in the 6-person tag. Admittedly they only created it a couple of days ago, but they didn't really develop it here at all.
The main event was, predictably, just a brawl, and given that they hadn't so much as mentioned Paul Heyman or Heidenreich at any point, I was expecting the denouement. I wonder if they will have an explanation of why he had any interest in interfering in this?
― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Monday, 4 October 2004 10:00 (twenty-one years ago)
I didn't watch, but I heard that Kidman-London was great.
WTF do they do now? Who does JBL fight next? Supposedly they're aiming for an Angle-Taker feud (for the title!) but that looks far away now (maybe 'Mania). I can understand that they didn't want Show to lose his first match back, but do they also want him facing JBL for the time being? Because he's the only logical title contender right now, unless they go back to Eddie (but it's too soon for that, particularly if they plan on leaving the belt on JBL for a while longer, which is apparently the case).
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Monday, 4 October 2004 13:02 (twenty-one years ago)
I got up late yesterday so I thought I'd stay up and watch this but then it was on Sky Sports 2, which I don't have.
I dunno what the deal is with Eddie getting buried, he pretty much got repeatedly made Angle's bitch then shunted down the card really, didn't he?
The Evil Kidman thing sounds like it could be interesting. I know he actually injured Chavo with it, but the idea of them doing a 'the shooting star press is deadly' angle just sort of reminds me of when people claim Chris Jericho had to stop doing the cocky pin because he killed someone with it.
The uninformed tone of this post makes me realise I haven't actually watched any current WWE stuff since the PPV after Summerslam.
― Michael Philip Philip Philip Annoyman (Ferg), Monday, 4 October 2004 16:05 (twenty-one years ago)
Im sure they'll run with the big show. hes coming back from an injury, had a huge year last year, they pay him alot, etc.
ppv sounded pretty weak to me. but I havent been watching the shows for the past 2 months and all of it has sounded weak..
― still bevens (bscrubbins), Monday, 4 October 2004 20:38 (twenty-one years ago)
one month passes...
It's really sad, 'cause Kidman used to be one of the best wrestlers in North America in terms of just how crisp his moves were and I mean zero sloppiness. His feud with Juventud Guerrera on WCW B- and C-shows were off the charts and for me rivaled anything that, say, New Japan were putting out at that moment.
My favorite Kidman moment though was when I attended the No Way Out PPV in Montreal (the one with Rock-Hogan II) and I think he wrestled Jamie Noble. He had his legs dangled on the top rope in the corner facing down and from that position, Noble gave him the sickest looking DDT I've ever seen. The crowd totally gasped on that spot.
― alex in montreal, Friday, 12 November 2004 16:51 (twenty-one years ago)