Rolling Post-Wrestlemania 21 OMGWTF thread

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So Batista won the title on the biggest show of the year, but wasn't seen or heard until the last five minutes of RAW the night after. In the meantime, HHH and others got to run him down and he didn't show up to stick up for himself. Also, they made up silly stories about Orton injuring himself trying to tombstone the Undertaker, rather than just saying "he's injured".

The next week, they invented an injury angle between Batista and Orton, which nobody will remember or care about by the time Orton comes back because nobody EVER remembers injury angles.

Then they hyped Batista's First Interview, but rather than just have the interview, no, we had to have HHH out there *again* to tell us about it first.

Benjamin pulled a heel turn out of nowhere, which seemed to confuse the crowd, but it's his first actual feud since getting the IC title, and Jericho's got nothing better to do. Besides, there are too many faces on RAW.

Lita and Kane are suddenly SVENGALIS IN LUUURRRVE, which I guess is OK now that they've released Matt Hardy so he won't be coming back for revenge.

They spent half of the show hyping Hassan vs Shawn, only to swerve us and "deliver" Daivari vs Shawn. OK, I figured, now they can put Shawn over in San Antonio while building to a match with Hassan down the line. Instead, Daivari wins with the ball kick of death, continuing the WWE's streak of jobbing people in their hometown whenever they get the oppurtunity. Hey fuckfaces, if you were going to do that, WHY NOT LET HASSAN GET THE PIN, SINCE HE'S SUPPOSED TO BE THE HOT NEW HEEL AND COULD ACTUALLY USE A BIG WIN FOR A CHANGE?

Then Shawn begged Bischoff for a handicap match which he apparently can't do for Shawn's own safety, even though WE SAW HHH BOOK HIS OWN HANDICAP MATCH TWENTY MINUTES EARLIER.

Finally, Shawn likens a fight against the evil Michigan residents to his whole family serving in Vietnam or something, and feels he needs to do his part in the war against terror by bringing Hulk Hogan out of retirement.

This is one of the worst RAW's in recent memory.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 01:31 (twenty years ago)

Sorry about the switches in tense, I'm watching this garbage at the same time as typing.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 01:33 (twenty years ago)

Oh, and they weren't in San Antonio, I must have mishead that somewhere. They were in Moline, Illinois.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 02:46 (twenty years ago)

misheard

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 02:46 (twenty years ago)

I really hope that Lita/Kane != Mickey/Mallory, 'cause referencing something 11 years old would be lame (though totally on par).

It looked like both Benjamin and Jericho pulled heel turns, although I'm sure that wasn't the intention. What was wrong with Benjamin as a face anyway? I liked his cockiness combined with his athleticism... isn't that's what in part got RVD so over before they screwed that up?

Hassan will be the hot new Christian unless he develops a moveset. Davari, his friggin' manager in kayfabe, pulled out more moves.

I find it morbidly fascinating that HHH is no longer even trying to maintain a semblance of not having RAW revolve around him.

alex in montreal (alex in montreal), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 12:38 (twenty years ago)

Benjamin and Jericho both seemed pretty heelish, though I suppose Shelton refusing to give Jericho a title shot is the biggest heel-ism, and 'Shelton Benjamin Is A Little Bitch' was quite funny. I think Jericho'd probably make a better heel for that feud though, as people are wanting to cheer Shelton for doing crazy shit like running up a ladder rather than boo him for refusing to wrestle.

Re the Daivari thing, it bugged me how JR, rather than act surprised but grudgingly impressed that Daivari could actually do a few decent moves, in a manner that might like, get him over, went with the 'oh mah gawd how is this skinny little a-rab getting offence against the SHOWSTOPPER?!' talk instead.

'Mr Money In The Bank' is an awful nickname for Edge, made worse by the fact that Lawler always latches onto anything like that like an overexcited schoolkid and repeats it at every opportunity. They really need a new, non-senile commentary team. Tazz's 'I invented that move/that's really putting pressure on the leg - SMART, Cole' shtick is infinitely preferable.

Who'll kill themselves first: Matt Hardy or Rhyno?

Fergal (Ferg), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 13:31 (twenty years ago)

'Mr Money In The Bank' is an awful nickname for Edge

It is, but I like how they've handled the post-Mania MitB fallout so far (one of the only decent things they've done post-Mania). It's great how Edge carries the briefcase with him everywhere and is given the oppurtunity to make not-idle threats thanks to his win. They can get months of mileage out of this stuff and should build to a Summerslam match.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 14:23 (twenty years ago)

I think it's a great nickname for a heel to refer himself as. It's really not catchy and clunky and very annoying.

alex in montreal (alex in montreal), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 14:26 (twenty years ago)

'Mr Money In The Bank' is an awful nickname for Edge, made worse by the fact that Lawler always latches onto anything like that like an overexcited schoolkid and repeats it at every opportunity. They really need a new, non-senile commentary team. Tazz's 'I invented that move/that's really putting pressure on the leg - SMART, Cole' shtick is infinitely preferable.

i love the king and JR as the commentary team, me and my flatmate have agreed that they are the best commentary team in the whole world of sport (and/or entertainment) right now.

ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 18:54 (twenty years ago)

Surely it's only a matter of time before Vincent K poaches Gordon Strachan from the BBC, though?

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 19:05 (twenty years ago)

what's happened to rik flair?

ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 20:54 (twenty years ago)

"Rik"? Well now I'm imagining Flair as Rick from the Young Ones. Thanks a ton.

Stupornaut (natepatrin), Friday, 15 April 2005 16:37 (twenty years ago)

don't imagigoogle "rik". that's all i can tell you

ken c (ken c), Saturday, 16 April 2005 07:56 (twenty years ago)

It continues ...

Kane stalks Trish, and the save is made by ....

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VISCERA???!?!?!?!?!?!??!!!?!!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

Coach: I have no idea why Viscera is out here!!

To quote SK, I love shoot comments that aren't supposed to be shoot comments.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 00:24 (twenty years ago)

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MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 00:29 (twenty years ago)

"service me"
"i mix bidness with pleasure"
"yeah we'll take it slow -- we'll take it slow ALL NIGHT LONG"

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 00:31 (twenty years ago)

'Hulk Hogan is A Selfish and A Self Serving and etc' = I also love shoot comments that aren't etc

This Raw fucking STINKS, doesn't it? I turned off after the Hogan posedown, but Jesus, the generic gay tag-team, and then Daivari stomping on Michaels for the DQ just after Hassan had hit his finisher and could have won the match, and then Hogan walking down and stopping to pose while Michaels was being HANGED IN THE ROPES. Agh.

(The segment-ruining 'you screwed Matt' chanting at Lita was funny though)

Fergal (Ferg), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 01:17 (twenty years ago)

This is so bad.

Chris Masters is going to get this stupid full nelson challenge segment every week? The guy is useless. The Masterlock? As if the guy's gimmick hasn't been a failure every time it's been used in wrestling history (Luger, Stasiak, Jindrak -- JUST LAST YEAR), I can't believe they're trying to get the full nelson -- which hasn't been taken seriously since c. 1987 -- over as a crippling move.

And every week leading up to his turn, Batista was the guy who always saw through HHH's bullshit, and was always there to deliver the snarky/witty line to hammer home his point. Now he's an afterthought on his own show. He's never on even onscreen, while HHH gets to destroy him verbally in every other segment.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 01:25 (twenty years ago)

Holy shit, Vince tore two quads three months ago! He was supposed to be in a wheelchair for months.

Most amazing moment of the show thus far, easily.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 01:37 (twenty years ago)

I mean, I heard he was walking around a bit backstage, which was amazing by itself, but it's different to see him with your own eyes.

MSG does NOT like Cena! And they're filming SD there this week, haha.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 01:41 (twenty years ago)

I assume that all this pedigree pimping is leading up to Batista kicking out of it at Backlash. Otherwise, I think I'll send anthrax in the mail to HHH.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 01:47 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, the main event got 12 minutes. Deal with it.

At least HHH had to lie around selling a chair shot for four hours. Kind of like all those big matches where his opponents had to lie around selling the pedigree for an hour before getting pinned, except that nobody cares about tonight's match.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 02:15 (twenty years ago)

Speaking of Keith, he's got his rant up already at the usual sites, and it's the funniest thing he's written in months.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 02:56 (twenty years ago)

I don't know what the usual sites are anymore. And I'm not supposed to read him because he's fat or something, right?

The "Heart Throbs" are not going anywhere with Yet Another Gay Gimmick (though hey, now that both Billy AND Chuck have been fired, MAYBE PEOPLE WILL FORGET THEM! YES). But with a bit of tweaking, I imagine they could go over even better as a subtle homage to Zoolander and Hansel.

Pimp Viscera = augh. Maybe if his ring gear didn't make him look like goth Grimace I wouldn't be as traumatized. I doubt it, though.

Stupornaut (natepatrin), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 05:43 (twenty years ago)

Nate, check out SK's blog:

www.livejournal.com/users/rspwfaq/177706.html#cutid1

When he's as funny and insightful as he was tonight, then yes, you are "supposed" to read him.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 06:19 (twenty years ago)

I caught the last 30 minutes of this piece of shit. I saw a really long pedigree package (why do they waste time trying to get that move over? like it hasnt been destroying top guys for the past 5 years?) and some throw away match with HHH and JR. WTF was Batista on this show? I thought he was champion? And why in gods name was he DRIVING the limo to the show? Shouldnt he be in the back or something?

I really wish I could have seen MSG turn on Lita. Good for them. Not that I want Matt v.1nternetcrybaby to come back, but its still funny.

Actor Sizemore fails drug test with fake penis (jingleberries), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 15:32 (twenty years ago)

And why in gods name was he DRIVING the limo to the show?

They had a poorly explained (and stupid) angle where HHH paid off the limo company to take Batista for "the ride of his life".

He's the cerebral assassin, you know.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 16:07 (twenty years ago)

Can someone please start a fed that solely tries to appeal to homosexuals and Mexicans, instead of "simpletons from 1955", and put Vincent K out of his misery? This is just painful.

I'm going to get "MATT HARDY" tattooed across my heart, I think.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 18:40 (twenty years ago)

Now Im bitter that part of my screed was actually explained earlier in the show. Perhaps I should have watched RAW in its entirety. Pahahahah.

Actor Sizemore fails drug test with fake penis (jingleberries), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 18:50 (twenty years ago)

I can't really fathom why they're refusing to let Batista be the uniquely calm and intelligent character they created leading up to Mania and who the fans were way into. Scott Keith's rant is obviously quite wrong in this regard as he suggests Batista is a failure as a face champion when its clearly the WWE's self-destructive insistance on protecting HHH's main event spot that's killing the crowd heat. Perhaps he just hasn't been watching the shows leading up to that last one he reviewed.

herbert hebert (herbert hebert), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 02:03 (twenty years ago)

Keith declares every champion's reign to be a failure three weeks into it. They have managed to fuck up some of Batista's momentum over the last few weeks, but it's not irreversible. Calling him the third or fourth most popular face on RAW is confounding (and wrong) but there *have* been about three or four faces who have gotten more post-WM screen time than Batista, so if that trend continues then it will be true by summertime.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 15:35 (twenty years ago)

Wow, a segment that didn't suck! Batista came out first -- it was as if he was the champion or something!

Somehow he manages to hug and cradle JR and still come off like a badass in the end.

In case you guys haven't heard, Mania drew about a million buys, 14% more than last year and one of the biggest buyrates in the history of the company. Batista = Money. The WWE has got to be waking up to this shit, although the HHH-Batista Hell in a Cell rumours for June might suggest otherwise.

HBK + Hogan = Dream Team? Hey, remember when Shawn and Orton teamed up on RAW two months ago and were labelled the "Dream Team"?

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 00:22 (twenty years ago)

dream boat team. big difference.

Actor Sizemore fails drug test with fake penis (jingleberries), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 00:28 (twenty years ago)

I think Cena is a pretty big draw, despite his inability to put on a compelling match. He made an appearance in my neighborhood before WM and there was the biggest line ever wrapped around the block. I might have mentioned it previously on this thread, but whatever. Here it is again.

Hopefully Vince & Co. can string together some compelling storylines and put on some decent programming to keep up the momentum.

Actor Sizemore fails drug test with fake penis (jingleberries), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 00:32 (twenty years ago)

TS: Divas vs Page 3 Girls.

One of the P3 brunettes they brought out was smoking, otherwise, it's an easy win for the Divas.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 01:08 (twenty years ago)

What's with all the jobber segments tonight? What is this, Velocity?

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 01:36 (twenty years ago)

I caught the main last night and thought it went off pretty well. I wasnt expecting Christian and Batista to put a decent match together. So theres like a PPV or something this weekend? Really?

Actor Sizemore fails drug test with fake penis (jingleberries), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 15:28 (twenty years ago)

the pedigree IS devastating, afterall!

ken c (ken c), Monday, 2 May 2005 17:39 (twenty years ago)

triple threat match edge batista triple h next and triple h wins back his precious title?

ken c (ken c), Monday, 2 May 2005 17:40 (twenty years ago)


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