I had a bio prof in college who once told a story about "friends" of his trying to keep a lobster alive in their dorm room back in his own college days. I think they filled an aquarium w tap water and then dumped lots of salt packets from the dining hall into it and stirred, then added lobster. The story ended with, "Today we're going to talk about why that lobster died."
― How can there be male ladybugs? (Laurel), Wednesday, 25 March 2009 19:22 (fifteen years ago) link
true i am lobster consider the facts and you will see it is obv so obv
― Lamp, Wednesday, 25 March 2009 19:22 (fifteen years ago) link
how long does it take before they die? a couple days?
― he sounded italian enough to give me something (the schef (adam schefter ha ha)), Wednesday, 25 March 2009 19:22 (fifteen years ago) link
im going to live forever
― Lamp, Wednesday, 25 March 2009 19:23 (fifteen years ago) link
I don't know, actually. Do they have any capacity for breathing air? I would have assumed they could only breathe in water but stories of them running around kitchen floors appear to disprove that idea.
― How can there be male ladybugs? (Laurel), Wednesday, 25 March 2009 19:23 (fifteen years ago) link
haha she's srsly gonna do this
― 鬼の手 (Edward III), Wednesday, 25 March 2009 19:23 (fifteen years ago) link
consider the lobster
― Leif ericsonned (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 25 March 2009 19:23 (fifteen years ago) link
yeah this is what i was thinking -- they have to be ok to be out of water for quite a period considering it isn't like you bring them home from market in a little water baggie like a goldfish!
― he sounded italian enough to give me something (the schef (adam schefter ha ha)), Wednesday, 25 March 2009 19:25 (fifteen years ago) link
xpost Proof 1: bound claws make use of shift key and punctuation difficult
― WOOKIE JOHNSON (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 25 March 2009 19:26 (fifteen years ago) link
iirc they need to stay damp, if they dry out it's trouble for them
I might just be making that up tho
― 鬼の手 (Edward III), Wednesday, 25 March 2009 19:27 (fifteen years ago) link
i heard that ten seconds before they die, they shoot lazers out of their eyes--can't remember where i read that
― Mr. Que, Wednesday, 25 March 2009 19:27 (fifteen years ago) link
The question of whether or not lobsters can experience pain is unresolved. Because of the ambiguous nature of suffering, most people who contend that lobsters do have this capacity approach the issue using 'argument by analogy' — that is, they hold that certain similarities between lobsters' and humans' biology or behavior warrant an assumption that lobsters can feel pain.[12]
In February 2005, a review of the literature by the Norwegian Scientific Committee for Food Safety tentatively concluded that "it is unlikely that [lobsters] can feel pain," though they note that "there is apparently a paucity of exact knowledge on sentience in crustaceans, and more research is needed." This conclusion is based on the lobster's simple nervous system. The report assumes that the violent reaction of lobsters to boiling water is a reflex to noxious stimuli.[13]
However, review by the Scottish animal rights group Advocate for Animals released in the same year reported that "scientific evidence ... strongly suggests that there is a potential for [lobsters] to experience pain and suffering," primarily because lobsters (and other decapod crustaceans) "have opioid receptors and respond to opioids (analgesics such as morphine) in a similar way to vertebrates," indicating that lobsters' reaction to injury changes when painkillers are applied. The similarities in lobsters' and vertebrates' stress systems and behavioral responses to noxious stimuli were given as additional evidence for their capacity for pain.[12]
A 2007 study at Queen's University, Belfast, suggested that crustaceans do feel pain. Acetic acid was placed on the antennae of 144 prawns; the animals responded by rubbing the affected areas. Professor Robert Elwood, who headed the study, argues that sensing pain is crucial to the survival of all animals, because it encourages them to avoid damaging behaviors. Some scientists responded, saying the rubbing may reflect an attempt to clean the affected area.[14]
― 鬼の手 (Edward III), Wednesday, 25 March 2009 19:28 (fifteen years ago) link
lol scientists
"that's not pain, it's a reflex to noxious stimuli"
― 鬼の手 (Edward III), Wednesday, 25 March 2009 19:29 (fifteen years ago) link
In February 2005, a review of the literature by the Norwegian Scientific Committee for Food Safety tentatively concluded that "it is unlikely that [lobsters] can feel pain," though they note that "there is apparently a paucity of exact knowledge on sentience in crustaceans, and more research is needed. Furthermore, lobsters be fukkin tasty nom nom nom."
― 鬼の手 (Edward III), Wednesday, 25 March 2009 19:32 (fifteen years ago) link
the pain i feel through not having lobsters in my belly is sure greater than anything these simple ass animals can experience
― ice cr?m, Wednesday, 25 March 2009 19:34 (fifteen years ago) link
^ knife right between the eyes of truth
― Dane Cook's Illustrated (I DIED), Wednesday, 25 March 2009 19:35 (fifteen years ago) link
when u think about it-- what is 'pain'
― rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Wednesday, 25 March 2009 19:35 (fifteen years ago) link
suggest noxious stimuli
― 鬼の手 (Edward III), Wednesday, 25 March 2009 19:37 (fifteen years ago) link
is there an ortolan thread on here anywhere?
― WOOKIE JOHNSON (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 25 March 2009 19:37 (fifteen years ago) link
sorry for interrupting max
were you about to blow our minds?
I'm still amused by "mobster laurel" support but I can't think of a good direction to run with that.
― How can there be male ladybugs? (Laurel), Wednesday, 25 March 2009 19:37 (fifteen years ago) link
let's ask the king of pain what pain is
― Mr. Que, Wednesday, 25 March 2009 19:38 (fifteen years ago) link
how many of us can esacpe the lobster's fate???? how many of us even want to????
ps i will pinch you with my claws, max and u will see 1st hand
― Lamp, Wednesday, 25 March 2009 19:39 (fifteen years ago) link
new CB handle?
xp to mobster laurel
― 鬼の手 (Edward III), Wednesday, 25 March 2009 19:40 (fifteen years ago) link
laurel: guys i need to eliminate this business associate and im really nervous
ilx: u can do it yr so pretty and capable we luv yr new dresss <3 <3 <3
― ice cr?m, Wednesday, 25 March 2009 19:41 (fifteen years ago) link
It's like you know me.
― guys i need to eliminate this business associate and im really nervous (Laurel), Wednesday, 25 March 2009 19:45 (fifteen years ago) link
WAIT WAIT
http://www.crustastun.com/
― 鬼の手 (Edward III), Wednesday, 25 March 2009 19:46 (fifteen years ago) link
i do not know about the dress i am wearing today, i think my boobs are inappropriate for the office, but thank u anyway bro.
ok i am going to do this thing! this weekend if i can get over to the market to get a lobster.
― he sounded italian enough to give me something (the schef (adam schefter ha ha)), Wednesday, 25 March 2009 19:47 (fifteen years ago) link
before boiling, place your lobster on a flatbed scanner, to stun it
A blessing to the (s)chef <------ obvs MEANT FOR YOU
― guys i need to eliminate this business associate and im really nervous (Laurel), Wednesday, 25 March 2009 19:47 (fifteen years ago) link
social justice, crustastunner shades on
― 鬼の手 (Edward III), Wednesday, 25 March 2009 19:48 (fifteen years ago) link
benefits of the crustastun
* Fast, clean & efficient * Reduces stress & improves meat quality in terms of texture & flavour * Can be used by unskilled staff * Conforms to Standards of Humane killing & acceptable to the general public
― 鬼の手 (Edward III), Wednesday, 25 March 2009 19:49 (fifteen years ago) link
http://www.crustastun.com/img/single2.jpg
lol watch me scan my face guuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuhzzz
― ice cr?m, Wednesday, 25 March 2009 19:50 (fifteen years ago) link
this is a joke, right?
― icy cold crustastunnaz (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 25 March 2009 19:52 (fifteen years ago) link
what's a joke is the wanton suffering you inflict upon crustaceans
― 鬼の手 (Edward III), Wednesday, 25 March 2009 19:53 (fifteen years ago) link
so high and mighty up there at the top of the food chain, aren't you
i did not actually scan my face w/the crustastun!
― ice cr?m, Wednesday, 25 March 2009 19:54 (fifteen years ago) link
this is totally worth getting for an office and using on interns.
― icy cold crustastunnaz (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 25 March 2009 19:55 (fifteen years ago) link
lol, i keep hearing "watch me scan my face guuuuuuuuuuuuuhhhzz" as sung by soulja boy
― icy cold crustastunnaz (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 25 March 2009 19:56 (fifteen years ago) link
putting yr face on the crustastun would result in some noxious stimuli
― 鬼の手 (Edward III), Wednesday, 25 March 2009 19:56 (fifteen years ago) link
"CONTINUOUS FLOW CRUSTASTUNNA"!!!!!
― continuous flow crustastunna (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 25 March 2009 19:57 (fifteen years ago) link
hypnotize the lobster into thinking he's a cow and voila surf and turf
― bela fregosi (brownie), Wednesday, 25 March 2009 19:58 (fifteen years ago) link
it's times like these I wish I were a DJ so I could be DJ crustastun
― 鬼の手 (Edward III), Wednesday, 25 March 2009 19:59 (fifteen years ago) link
although you might not want to kill it after that because you may need the milkxpost to me
― bela fregosi (brownie), Wednesday, 25 March 2009 20:00 (fifteen years ago) link
DJ crustastun ft. MC continuous flow
― 鬼の手 (Edward III), Wednesday, 25 March 2009 20:00 (fifteen years ago) link
MC mild briny gush
― WmC, Wednesday, 25 March 2009 20:06 (fifteen years ago) link
morelike crustachin' amirite?
― Leif ericsonned (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 25 March 2009 20:14 (fifteen years ago) link
However, review by the Scottish animal rights group Advocate for Animals released in the same year reported that "scientific evidence ... strongly suggests that there is a potential for (lobsters) to experience pain and suffering," primarily because lobsters (and other decapod crustaceans) "have opioid receptors and respond to opioids (analgesics such as morphine) in a similar way to vertebrates," indicating that lobsters' reaction to injury changes when painkillers are applied.
I think I need to sign up for a similar "test" to see whether I experience "pain".
― Sorry that's the implant talking (libcrypt), Wednesday, 25 March 2009 20:17 (fifteen years ago) link
I just went to youtube to check out some boiled lobster videos for laffs and boy, are there some real assholes out there.
― •--• --- --- •--• (Pleasant Plains), Wednesday, 25 March 2009 20:19 (fifteen years ago) link