FYI - 1/2 a pig takes about 3.5 paper grocery bags of space. 1/4 of a cow takes about 6 bags worth. 1/2 a cow takes 12 bags worth, which is an entire 3'x5'x3.5' freezer, with some left for the kitchen freezer.
Grass-fed and finished beef will keep in the freezer for 12 months, so if you can finish off 70 lbs of hamburger and 20 lbs of stew meat in that time, and cook a 5 lb roast or pot roast every other week, it might be worth looking into.
― Jaq (Jaq), Thursday, 16 September 2004 00:05 (twenty-one years ago)
The "bag measurements" are really helpful, too -- it still isn't something I can do now, but if I can get some people to split something with me ...
― Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 16 September 2004 00:38 (twenty-one years ago)
― Jaq (Jaq), Thursday, 16 September 2004 01:36 (twenty-one years ago)
In the meantime, I buy food from by local co-op foodstore. There are plenty of organic fruits/vegetables, local products and local, farm-raised meat. When I was on my "bonless chicken thigh" kick a while ago, I got some from the co-op. The next time, I got them from a chain grocery store and they were TWICE the size, which made be think, "Do you really want to eat chicken that has so obviously been injected with growth horomones?"
― Vermont Girl (Vermont Girl), Thursday, 16 September 2004 10:59 (twenty-one years ago)
― Porkpie (porkpie), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 10:10 (twenty-one years ago)
I keep thinking about Jeffrey Steingarten - did he try to make his own proscuitto? Anyway, time to get serious about a smoker. And learn how to make those pork pies.
― Jaq (Jaq), Friday, 17 June 2005 15:57 (twenty years ago)
And a smoker is a great investment, especially as you can pick them up as cheaply as 32 dollars like we did (from a bass pro shop of all places)
― Porkpie (porkpie), Friday, 17 June 2005 17:37 (twenty years ago)
― Trayce (trayce), Sunday, 19 June 2005 22:38 (twenty years ago)
I take all studies regarding food with a grain of salt and tend not to react to them. Cholesterol was bad for you; oops, no it's not that, it's the (ex-healthy) manufactured hydrogenated fats that were supposedly so pure and wonderful. Crisco - it's digestible! Butter and real cream are better for a person than any chemically processed soy or cottonseed crap, as long as the cows weren't eating pesticides (which are stored in fat, including butterfat). We don't eat much nitrate-laden processed meat; we don't eat crappy ersatz substitute foods; we don't eat overprocessed junk or fast food. So no, I'm not going to stress over eating what we enjoy.
Besides, we all get to die of something, and I'd much rather it be for enjoying excellent chow. The memorial plaque can read "She certainly ate well."
― Jaq (Jaq), Monday, 20 June 2005 02:57 (twenty years ago)
― Trayce (trayce), Monday, 20 June 2005 08:30 (twenty years ago)
The only glitch - the butcher misunderstood the cutting order and chopped all the hams into 5 lb roasts, as well as the side pork, so while we might cure some pancetta or bacon, we won't be curing an air-dried ham this year.
― Jaq (Jaq), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 06:17 (eighteen years ago)
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― Jaq, Tuesday, 15 May 2007 15:56 (eighteen years ago)
Mr. Jaq got me the food grinder attachment for my Kitchenaid at xmas, but aside from looking at it and reading the directions, I hadn't used it. UNTIL YESTERDAY! When I made fresh pork sausage and ground up a couple additional pounds of pork fat to render into lard. We bought 2 lbs of farm-raised pork stew meat at the market and I ground it with about 3/4 lb of fat - not quite enough, the sausage is a bit lean for my taste, but really tasty this morning for breakfast. Grinding the fat for rendering made a HUGE difference. I thought I'd get less than a pint of lard from the amount of fat I ground up, based on previous years' experience from chopping the fat into rough cubes. Instead, I got a pint and a half AND it rendered in 2/3rds the time. Definitely the way to go.
― Jaq, Monday, 4 June 2007 21:57 (eighteen years ago)
OMG, I organized a buying club for grass-fed/finished meat at work and got orders for over 100 lbs of meat on the first go-round.
― Jaq, Tuesday, 5 June 2007 21:28 (eighteen years ago)
Talk about disappointing - I went to collect the meat this morning from the guy delivering it from the east side, and they had forgotten every bit of my order.
― Jaq, Sunday, 10 June 2007 01:42 (eighteen years ago)
OK not about buying meat 'in bulk', but about curing. I'm intrigued by this lamb bacon idea.
?: dude says to roast it for 2 1/2 hours at 250º; is it then ready to eat? That seems implied by roasting it until the internal temp reaches 140º. But what if you want to fry the bacon instead of roasting it? Who roasts bacon?
― Leon Brambles (G00blar), Tuesday, 17 February 2009 21:26 (sixteen years ago)
i guess the roasting is just 'smoking' it. like, it's already cured after the sugar/salt combo??
― t_g, Tuesday, 17 February 2009 21:31 (sixteen years ago)
I guess? So then I can fry it up?
― Leon Brambles (G00blar), Tuesday, 17 February 2009 21:31 (sixteen years ago)
yeah dude give it a go and report back
― t_g, Tuesday, 17 February 2009 21:33 (sixteen years ago)
I'll have to get up the courage to ask my butchers if they have lamb saddle. They're the grumpiest dudes in the world.
― Leon Brambles (G00blar), Tuesday, 17 February 2009 21:36 (sixteen years ago)