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Hi. I want to get my friend a big comprehensive basic authoritative book about wine for her birthday. Personally, I have a lot of specialized books that I love (and also the Oxford Companion), but I don't think any of those would be good for this purpose. I want something that can serve as an introduction but also a lasting reference. If it's going to be the only wine book she owns...any favorites to recommend?

Paul Eater (eater), Thursday, 18 November 2004 16:23 (twenty-one years ago)

The Wine Bible by Karen MacNeil is the best all-around wine book I've found. A great introduction for beginners, short course in tasting, descriptions of regions, wines, grapes. Readable, practical, and makes wine approachable. Chockfull of accurate detail too.

Jaq (Jaq), Thursday, 18 November 2004 20:47 (twenty-one years ago)

A Guide to the Wines of the Loire Valley is authoritative on the region, and despite the dry-sounding title is full of history, local factoids, and makes quite an interesting read. It is very good for explanations of terroir, history of grapes, explanations of why certain regions specialize in certain grapes. If the person is a history buff an EXCELLENT book is Wine and War, an interesting history of how the wine fared during, and was connected to, the world wars.

Orbit (Orbit), Thursday, 18 November 2004 21:00 (twenty-one years ago)

I'll check out the MacNeil -- that sounds like a good tip. I'm also intrigued by Jancis Robinson's Wine Course; anyone read that? She edited the Oxford book.

Wine And War was fascinating, and I'm familiar with the Loire book too, but can't leave out the New World and its vinous wonders.

Paul Eater (eater), Thursday, 18 November 2004 22:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Eonuos wonders? What is that wine word? Onology? Eonology?

Orbit (Orbit), Thursday, 18 November 2004 22:15 (twenty-one years ago)

The Brian Eno book was last year's present.

Paul Eater (eater), Thursday, 18 November 2004 22:40 (twenty-one years ago)

oenology

teeny (teeny), Thursday, 18 November 2004 23:00 (twenty-one years ago)

and are we going to talk about Beaujolais nouveau? it's out today you know!

teeny (teeny), Thursday, 18 November 2004 23:02 (twenty-one years ago)

OMG I totally forgot about that! Yes, do!

Orbit (Orbit), Thursday, 18 November 2004 23:10 (twenty-one years ago)

I haven't read Jancis Robinson's Wine Course, but I really enjoyed her autobiographical Tasting Pleasure, about how she fell into the wine industry by happenstance, and as a result got to drink some really amazing wines at a young age.

Jaq (Jaq), Friday, 19 November 2004 00:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Mmmm, November is so fine for that reason. Just steer clear of the nasty DuBoeuf.

There's an awesome article in the new issue of Art Of Eating about beaujolais (not the nouveau stuff). It has gotten me very excited about a wine I was previously not so interested in, and Sunday I'm going to a tasting in Brooklyn to "sample all 10 'cru' zones of beaujolais"! I will report.

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Paul Eater (eater), Friday, 19 November 2004 01:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Is there such a thing as a budget wine primer? As in - a book for a less-experienced wine appreciator to expand their knowledge without breaking the bank?

Remy (x Jeremy), Friday, 19 November 2004 01:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Nasty DuBoeuf??!!!

Orbit (Orbit), Friday, 19 November 2004 01:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Remy: Robert Parker's buyers' guides include information for the budget-conscious oenophile; I think there's a section on The Best Wines Under $10.

Orbit: Yeah, DuBoeuf's beaujolais nouveaux taste muddyish to me. Plus the company's megamarketing and squeezing of small and medium-sized producers is sort of distasteful. I blame them for flattening the market and making it harder to find the more interesting, varied, organic, etc. beaujolais here very much. Some small producers won't export, or export only to Canada, because it's so hard to compete for shelf space in the U.S.

Jaq: How old is Jancis now, I wonder. Is she single?

Paul Eater (eater), Friday, 19 November 2004 01:42 (twenty-one years ago)

I've never had nouveaux actually, I fear it might be too sweet. But you never know, so I want to try!

teeny (teeny), Friday, 19 November 2004 02:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Alas Paul, she is married to Nick Lander. 50ish I think. Here's her site: http://www.jancisrobinson.com

Agreed about the DuBoeuf's btw. We found a yummy one by Louis Drouhin (but also a thin, pickled beet tasting one called L'Ancien from Terres Dorees) at Whole Foods (aka Whole Paycheck) two years ago. We had the Louis Drouhin again last year. And we are heading back to Seattle for the weekend, so may latch onto some more.

Teeny, I don't know about sweet, but it is a fruity light red. A fun kinda quaff. The first time I tried it was at lunch at the garden cafe place in the Met when we were on holiday. Three glasses went down easy (too easy) and we staggered around in that hall with all the greco roman stuff and weird perspective carved Last Supper thing for a good long while before we felt sober enough to brave the subway.

Jaq (Jaq), Friday, 19 November 2004 03:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Oops, that's Joseph Drouhin, not Louis! We found it at Trader Joe's last year for about $9/bottle.

Jaq (Jaq), Friday, 19 November 2004 03:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Remy, take a look at the Wine Brats' book or see if there's a chapter where you are. The Seattle chapter had to close up shop when they got askew of the law regarding permits for drinking type events, so I don't know how they are faring in the rest of the country. Good info on finding inexpensive drinkable wines and good ideas on getting more people to drink wine without getting all highbrow.

Jaq (Jaq), Friday, 19 November 2004 03:37 (twenty-one years ago)

For the record, the small producers of outstanding beaujolais recommended by the Art of Eating article include: Guy Breton; Louis-Claude Desvignes; Jean Foilard; Paul Janin et Fils; Chateau de Thivin (I've tried this and find it fuller and more complex than most); and, yes, Domaine des Terres Dorees (touted for its low-alcohol, "more traditional" but organic style, with no mention of beets).

Paul Eater (eater), Friday, 19 November 2004 03:41 (twenty-one years ago)

It was organic, I remember that being part of what inspired us to pick it up. My tasting notes though are: thin, poorly extracted, earthy like beets with slightly less vinegar. Maybe it was a just a bad bottle though.

One of our stops during the weekend will be at Esquin (http://www.esquin.com/). I'd like to pick up 1/2 a dozen different bottles to try and will see what they've got from the AoE list.

Jaq (Jaq), Friday, 19 November 2004 04:14 (twenty-one years ago)

we got a duBoeuf case about a year ago and it was pretty decent but I can only stand so many light fruity reds in a short space of time.

Jancis Robinson does a few tv programmes over here and she's pretty damn good, obviously knows her stuff, avoid anything with the name Oz Clarke on though.

Porkpie (porkpie), Friday, 19 November 2004 09:25 (twenty-one years ago)

deBouef is a decent negociant wine in my experience. There amy be heat damaged bottles out there as a by product of US shipping and storage. My favorite low priced boujolais noveau is Louis Jadot.

Orbit (Orbit), Friday, 19 November 2004 20:16 (twenty-one years ago)

I agree to differ. I've never tried Jadot's nouveau.

Paul Eater (eater), Friday, 19 November 2004 21:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Can I recommend a wone website. This is target marketed directly at me:
http://www.macgourmet.com/2004/11/dessert-frozen-mint-chocolate-dessert.html

Orbit (Orbit), Friday, 19 November 2004 22:21 (twenty-one years ago)

oops, that was wine website

Orbit (Orbit), Friday, 19 November 2004 23:21 (twenty-one years ago)

The only small producer beaujolais nouveau we could find in Seattle was the Terres Dorees, so we got a bottle of that, 2 of the Joseph Drouhin, and one of Pierre something or other. We've already downed a bottle of the Drouhin and will do a tasting of the other two tomorrow.

Jaq (Jaq), Thursday, 25 November 2004 03:01 (twenty-one years ago)

I cannot get on with Beaujolais at all, I'm afraid.

Matt (Matt), Thursday, 25 November 2004 09:29 (twenty-one years ago)

it was all over the place in Lille last weekend but no, I'm with you Matt, it's all abit... I don't know......light. Not light in a good way though, just a bit airy-fairy.

We didn't pick up any wine at all this time but did find some amazing beers, which I should list somewhere, maybe on the pumpkin.

Porkpie (porkpie), Thursday, 25 November 2004 09:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Ohh yes, please do.

Thing is, I do like light reds, but in any given situation where beaujolais would work I prefer a decent dry rose (most of the ones I've had that were Navarra have been the shiznit, search also South Africa).

Matt (Matt), Thursday, 25 November 2004 14:23 (twenty-one years ago)

one year passes...
HI DERE I R DUMBASS DO YUO HAVE REDCIP 4 CHEETOS SUFFLAY?

funny ringtones, Friday, 30 June 2006 12:29 (nineteen years ago)


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