What side dish should I make for Thanksgiving?

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I don't want to do something typical, yet want something that most everyone would enjoy. My mom is already making (in addition to turkey, obv) mashed potatos, baked sweet potatos w/marshmellows, and this fruit n jello thingee.
Also keep in mind that I'm fairly inexperienced in the kitchen, and will most likely screw up anything too complicated.

oops (Oops), Tuesday, 23 November 2004 20:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Popovers or scones would be nice; it's not too hard just stick to the recipe and don't overwork the dough.

Or, a la Asparagus Appointment, chop some garlic and drizzle olive oil over asprargus or green beans and cook them in the microwave so that they are still freshly textured (not mushy). Shave some parmagianno-Reggiano on it and yum!

Orbit (Orbit), Tuesday, 23 November 2004 21:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Green bean casserole!

Casuistry (Chris P), Wednesday, 24 November 2004 00:49 (twenty-one years ago)

T-Day ain't T-day without the deviled eggs.

I Am Curious (George) (Rock Hardy), Wednesday, 24 November 2004 01:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Fresh green pea salad mmmmmmmmmm!

http://southernfood.about.com/od/peas/r/bln257.htm

I like it better with the mint than the dill.

Jaq (Jaq), Wednesday, 24 November 2004 03:48 (twenty-one years ago)

baked sweet potatoes with marshmallow? *please* tell me you're having this as pudding

Porkpie (porkpie), Wednesday, 24 November 2004 10:26 (twenty-one years ago)

>T-Day ain't T-day without the deviled eggs.

[Laughing] Deviled eggs? [Stops laughing] That's the craziest thing I've ever heard.

>baked sweet potatoes with marshmallow? *please* tell me you're having this as pudding

No, man. This is a side dish, not a dessert. It's tradition (although I've never understood the allure). It's funny; I was grocery shopping last night and saw bags of mini marshmallows in lots of shopper's baskets- and I didn't think it was odd. Which is odd in itself, right? Ha. Ha ha. Hrm. [ahem] I think I've had this once in my life at my Grandma's.

This year my sister and I are bringing the sides. She's going to do something with squash. I'm bringing roasted carrots and parsnips with thyme. Also, that shredded brussles sprouts with bacon thing because it was so damn tastey.

Ready to O.D. on the tryptophan, please...

Vermont Girl (Vermont Girl), Wednesday, 24 November 2004 12:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Now we eat some strange things in Britain, particularly at Christmas, but I truly don't think we have anything to compare to sweet potato & marshmallows served with roast turkey

Will someone please post a recipe or a description of what it tastes/looks like?

bham, Wednesday, 24 November 2004 13:22 (twenty-one years ago)

I think I'm going to hurl

Porkpie (porkpie), Wednesday, 24 November 2004 13:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Thirded, this sounds like absolute insanity. Can someone who's eaten it even begin to describe it pls?

aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Wednesday, 24 November 2004 13:54 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm holding this in, but for CHRIST'S FUCKING SAKE, will we ever get over the "people do things differently in other countries/regions" juvenile bullshit? Especially when it comes from someone who was sure they'd never eaten anything weird, because food isn't weird! Jesus fuck, someone goes through the routine on every goddamn food thread on ILE, which is why I tend to stop reading them so quickly.

People eat food. Sometimes you've eaten it before. Sometimes you haven't. Get the fuck over it and deal.

Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 24 November 2004 14:37 (twenty-one years ago)

If people on I Love Cooking, of all places, can't get beyond the "but ewww, what's THAT? how can you eat THAT?" instinct of three year olds the world round, possibly they're on the wrong board and have selected the wrong hobby entirely.

Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 24 November 2004 14:41 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm not taking that approach, I just can't begin to think what it tastes like (and would like an idea of what I'd been letting myself in for before I tried to make it/wasted sweet potatoes and marshmallows).

aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Wednesday, 24 November 2004 14:47 (twenty-one years ago)

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Tep, I think you're taking this a little too seriously and being too harsh... bham asked for a recipe and aldo asked for more information, and I don't think there's a single person who posts on this board who hasn't shown that they're open to the cuisine of different cultures.

I think the big deal with the marshmallow and sweet potato is that it's two things that are common in the uk but which we would never think of combining in a month of sundays. What's so bad about expressing your initial reaction to something?

Vicky (Vicky), Wednesday, 24 November 2004 14:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Also, to add to my above "absolute insanity" is not necessarily a bad thing for me in the kitchen - I'm the guy who made the curry lasagne, remember.

aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Wednesday, 24 November 2004 15:16 (twenty-one years ago)

also - I hate marshmallows, which would create my reaction.

I would like a description of how it turns out though? Mash with gooey strands is what I'm imagining.

but yeah, chill Tep, there's no offence meant dude.

Porkpie (porkpie), Wednesday, 24 November 2004 15:29 (twenty-one years ago)

While I love a baked sweet potato with butter, the traditional incarnation with marshmallows is too sweet for me. For me, it's like pumpkin pie without the spices, with a layer of toasted marshmallow. You see it made with orange juice, with bourbon, etc. My aunt made hers just with butter and brown sugar. Heat the oven up to 350 F, put a drained can or two of yams or sweet potatoes into a casserole, sprinkle on about a cup of brown sugar, dot all over with a stick of butter, bake until it's all carmelized and gooey. Put miniature marshmallows in and run under the broiler until they are brown and toasty.

I will say it does go well with turkey, especially the dark meat. And the sweetness balances well against the bitterness of kale or collards and the saltiness of southern-style green beans, which are cooked a long long time with bacon or fatback.

Jaq (Jaq), Wednesday, 24 November 2004 15:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Jesus, someone drank their Haterade this morning.

Here's some images I found:

http://www.gsngrocers.com/shared_content/recipes/55484RP.jpg

http://www.wchstv.com/gmarecipes/i/sweetpotatocasserole.jpg

Vermont Girl (Vermont Girl), Wednesday, 24 November 2004 15:38 (twenty-one years ago)

The texture of the sweet potatoes is more creamy than mashed white potato. Silky almost, with a few fibers that all sweet potatoes seem to have.

Jaq (Jaq), Wednesday, 24 November 2004 15:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Hmm. Jaq's description makes me tempted to try this. Perhaps not so much with turkey (which I'm not a fan of) but maybe with the partridge I saw in the butcher the other day...

aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Wednesday, 24 November 2004 15:44 (twenty-one years ago)

BTW, deviled eggs = two thumbs up. Another use for that tin of Coleman's mustard hanging around the spice rack.

Jaq (Jaq), Wednesday, 24 November 2004 15:44 (twenty-one years ago)

I think this is a regional (southern) dish. I just asked my co-worker was she thought of it and she'd never heard of it before.

Vermont Girl (Vermont Girl), Wednesday, 24 November 2004 15:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Deviled eggs are good -- very very easy to make and not very time consuming either.

Leon the Fratboy (Ex Leon), Wednesday, 24 November 2004 16:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Actually, oops, you could hunt around for some interesting variation on cranberry sauce. That would probably not be too hard and somewhat foolproof.

Casuistry (Chris P), Wednesday, 24 November 2004 17:30 (twenty-one years ago)

But like I said, there's always:

http://www.home.earthlink.net/~taeast/greenbean.jpg

Casuistry (Chris P), Wednesday, 24 November 2004 17:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Vermont Girl's picture OTM. Candied yams as we call them are made by buying canned yams, mixing them in a saucepan with butter, brown sugar, allspice, nutmeg, clove, and cinnamon. The mixture is quite pie-like. It is put into a container like the one shown in Vermont Girl's picture. We then stand marshmallows end-up next to each other on top and put it in the oven, which browns and melts the marshmallows. It is served as a side dish and is like pumpkin pie but with a deeper, squah-like taste.

Also, being from North Carolina, deviled eggs are part of every celebratory meal.

Orbit (Orbit), Wednesday, 24 November 2004 18:05 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm about to go boil an 18-pack now.

I Am Curious (George) (Rock Hardy), Wednesday, 24 November 2004 18:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Thanks everyone. These are all good ideas, but I think I'm leaning towards deviled eggs, mainly because I love them but rarely get to have them.

(I think this is just the straw that broke Tep's back. We all have the same physiology, so it does seem a bit thick-headed to view someone as either a barbarian or a Martian for eating things you've never tried and never even heard about)

The marshmallow don't get melted, just a toasted layer on top. When I was little I would scrape off that layer, trying to get as little sweet potato along with it as possible. Now I've grown to love sweet potatos, and try to get just a little bit of marshmallow in with it. It really is quite tasty, and not as odd as it may sound. Go on, give it a try.
VG, were you referring to this when you said it was a Southern dish? There's not a trace of Southerness in my family. Though whoever started making it could've just got the recipe out of Good Housekeeping or something.

oops (Oops), Wednesday, 24 November 2004 21:01 (twenty-one years ago)

(I think this is just the straw that broke Tep's back. We all have the same physiology, so it does seem a bit thick-headed to view someone as either a barbarian or a Martian for eating things you've never tried and never even heard about)

this is a bit harsh, speaking only for myself - I *really* don't like marshmallows at all, they're nasty and having them in my mouth makes me gag a little. And I ain't too keen on pumpkin pie either, I think that's to do with the cloying texture that seems to coat my mouth completely. Hence my reaction.

and the whole thing just smacks of pudding really rather than a side dish but hey, each to their own.

Porkpie (porkpie), Wednesday, 24 November 2004 22:47 (twenty-one years ago)

i think perhaps chris that your "i" was taken as "anyone", you didn't really say "cos i hate marshmallows and amn't keen on yams neither" in the same post, which possibly exacerbated things, jsl...

also i imagine tep is up to his neck in (picky) in-laws at the mo, which probably isn't helping ;)

CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Thursday, 25 November 2004 12:27 (twenty-one years ago)

When I said regional, I think I meant Mid-Western, not Southern. I asked my boss if he's ever had the marshmallow-y yams and he said, "Oh yeah. My aunt makes it every year." And I think she's from Indiana.

Vermont Girl (Vermont Girl), Friday, 26 November 2004 13:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Best Thanksgiving side dish ever: Spinach Madeline. It's fairly unexpected with the jalapeƱos and the Tony Chachere's. Re: green bean casserole: have never done it with beef, but this year I didn't bring it to our annual T-day meal with pals (15 year tradition) and it was missed; shamefacedly by those who presume to be above white trash cooking and longingly by those who only care about what they like. Re: sweet potatoes with marshmallows. Not crazy about it myself, but lots of people can't get through the holidays without it. Often has nuts. Re: texture of pumpkin pie- I make it with 8 oz of cream cheese tossed in. Makes the texture more creamy but still not too rich. Have had raves reviews on that also.

Spinach Madeline

2 10 oz packages of frozen chopped spinach
4 T. butter (better if real butter, not margarine)
2 T. flour
half a medium onion, chopped fine
1/2 cup evaporated milk
1/2 cup spinach juice
8 oz bar jalapeno monterey jack cheese
optional: 2-3 T. chopped jalapeno (cook with onion and garlic if used)
1 t. worcestershire sauce
3-4 cloves chopped garlic (can substitute garlic powder to taste)
1/2 t. celery seed
black pepper to taste, red pepper to taste (I usually just use Tony Chachere's creole seasoning, one to two t.)


Cook spinach according to directions on package.
Drain spinach well in a colander and reserve spinach juice. Combine juice
with evap. milk and set aside. Melt butter.
Add flour -- stir until blended and smooth, but not brown.
Add onion & garlic and cook, stirring frequently, until soft
but not brown.
Add milk/juice mixture in slow increments,
stirring constantly.
Cook and blend until smooth and thick.
Add seasonings and cheese, cut into small pieces.
Stir until melted.
If it seems too thick, you can thin it with more spinach
juice or evaporated milk. Too thin -- add more cheese!
Combine cheese sauce with cooked spinach.
Best if made ahead of time and refrigerated overnight
so that the flavors have a chance to blend.
I usually make a double batch and there are seldom any leftovers.

Rabin the Cat (Rabin the Cat), Saturday, 27 November 2004 03:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Rabin - do you serve the spinach dish cold? or reheat the second day? Also, 8 oz cream cheese per pie? (my recipe makes 2)

Jaq (Jaq), Saturday, 27 November 2004 05:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Aw, you have to go and turn an interesting side dish nonvegetarian! Oh well.

Casuistry (Chris P), Saturday, 27 November 2004 09:23 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.veganstore.com/index-store.html?deptid=&parentid=&stocknumber=850&page=1&itemsperpage=12

Reheat the spinach dish. And on the pie, the recipe I use makes one pie and 3 ramekins of pumpkin "custard". I'll bet it would make two skinny pies. Here are the proportions:

pie crust- graham or flour ( I used ginger snap this year- was very good)
1 16 oz can pumpkin
1 can sweet condensed milk
2 eggs
2 tsp pumpkin spice
1 8 oz container cream cheese- I use light
1 tsp vanilla
1/2 tsp salt

Whip cheese frothy,
add milk,
add rest of ingredients,
mix well.
Bake at 350 for 55 minutes to 1 hr 20
if your oven is as freaky as mine.

Rabin the Cat (Rabin the Cat), Saturday, 27 November 2004 10:19 (twenty-one years ago)

(I meant the worcester sauce, not the marshmellows, but I'm glad there's a link for buying vegan marshmallows online. One of my old coworkers went batty trying to find vegan marshmallows for a company retreat a few years ago -- this was before the vegan food store opened up in town.)

Casuistry (Chris P), Saturday, 27 November 2004 18:32 (twenty-one years ago)

I use vegan worcestshire sauce, too. https://secure1.nexternal.com/shared/StoreFront/default.asp?CS=differentd&BusType=BtoC&Count1=933101832&Count2=850242257&Target=products%2Easp&ProductID=62

http://www.veganstore.co.uk/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=1&Product_Code=037

Rabin the Cat (Rabin the Cat), Saturday, 27 November 2004 20:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, then, sweet!

Casuistry (Chris P), Sunday, 28 November 2004 00:45 (twenty-one years ago)


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