Why is casual racism/sexism more accepted in video games than other forms of media (these days)?

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seriously thought forks wrote endangered outside the community and thought he was taking this all way too literally

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Monday, 22 April 2013 00:00 (twelve years ago)

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brb buying poppers w/my employee discount (forksclovetofu), Monday, 22 April 2013 00:07 (twelve years ago)

hooboy, not going down that road with you dude. are you genuinely offended/surprised that i wrote "seriously?" on the internet at a first exposure to the idea of a gay asian subgroup called "pandas"?

― brb buying poppers w/my employee discount (forksclovetofu), Sunday, April 21, 2013 7:54 PM (13 minutes ago) Bookmark

i'm just wondering what made u decide to share ur opinion about this topic that u have a lot of experience with

乒乓, Monday, 22 April 2013 00:08 (twelve years ago)

^solitary posts, etc
i decided to share my opinion precisely BECAUSE i have no experience with it and was hoping one of ilx's many all-purpose mavens would step up and let me know "yes this is a thing, here's some background *let me google that for you*" or alternately "i am a large gay asian man and ime this dude is on some ish that's just his own thing".
of course, this being ilx, i am being capn-save-a-panda'd

brb buying poppers w/my employee discount (forksclovetofu), Monday, 22 April 2013 00:14 (twelve years ago)

i'll take it that u acted in good faith, but u couldn't have phrased it in a better way??

乒乓, Monday, 22 April 2013 00:16 (twelve years ago)

iirc i actually typed "are asian bears seriously called pandas?" and then realised that i was inviting a zing

brb buying poppers w/my employee discount (forksclovetofu), Monday, 22 April 2013 00:18 (twelve years ago)

what im asking is, what puts you in a position to judge?

― 乒乓, Sunday, April 21, 2013 7:22 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

uhh judging owns

turds (Hungry4Ass), Monday, 22 April 2013 00:46 (twelve years ago)

stfu

turds (Hungry4Ass), Monday, 22 April 2013 00:46 (twelve years ago)

Actual pandas are not even bears, which makes this more confusing

Dr. Adorbius (mh), Monday, 22 April 2013 03:32 (twelve years ago)

Red pandas, I mean. Which I think means they're communist

Dr. Adorbius (mh), Monday, 22 April 2013 03:33 (twelve years ago)

Or native American.

how's life, Monday, 22 April 2013 10:29 (twelve years ago)

who judges the judges?

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 22 April 2013 14:55 (twelve years ago)

the Supreme Court?

we're up all night to get picky (Noodle Vague), Monday, 22 April 2013 14:55 (twelve years ago)

reread thread, guess i can see where "Seriously?" could be read as a guffaw, hope it's clear twas not meant as such

brb buying poppers w/my employee discount (forksclovetofu), Monday, 22 April 2013 15:10 (twelve years ago)

so there's some stupid fucking anime game (dragon's crown) (this is all i know about it) with big tittied ladies and people are mad about it, which is fine, and the penny arcade asshole weighs in:

It’s very weird to pull up a story about a game with frankly visionary art and hear why it shouldn’t exist, or to hear what I supposedly fantasize about, or what kind of power I supposedly revere, and any attempt to defend oneself from these psychotic projections or to assert that creators may create is evidence of a dark seed sprouting in the heart. It’s an incredible state of affairs. They’re not censors, though - oh, no no. You’ll understand it eventually; what you need to do is censor yourself.

i just... hate this guy. this like george will smugness. it enrages me.

adam, Wednesday, 24 April 2013 18:20 (twelve years ago)

why am i even posting about penny arcade. we all know.

adam, Wednesday, 24 April 2013 18:21 (twelve years ago)

did this go unmentioned at the time? just started playing saboteur. the free-with-purchase dlc adds... tits.

goole, Wednesday, 24 April 2013 18:24 (twelve years ago)

afaict it adds no 'real' game content, but makes all the burlesque showgirls topless. jfc.

goole, Wednesday, 24 April 2013 18:25 (twelve years ago)

yo is that game any good? i got it for like a dollar but haven't even booted it up

adam, Wednesday, 24 April 2013 18:29 (twelve years ago)

concept, variety of activity, mission design (so far): good!
story, v/o, etc: average-to-poor. depends on your tolerance for one euro accent after another.
visuals, gameplay: average for 09, pretty dated now

goole, Wednesday, 24 April 2013 18:36 (twelve years ago)

goole that is terrible but I can't stop laughing

Call me at **BITCOIN (DJP), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 18:36 (twelve years ago)

http://www.joystiq.com/2009/12/03/the-saboteur-day-one-dlc-unlocks-nudity-self-loathing/

sorry, it also adds "new Parisian hiding spots, [and] a new minigame"

goole, Wednesday, 24 April 2013 18:37 (twelve years ago)

there are lots of good reasons to hate oneself, but pixelated titties? eh

Nhex, Wednesday, 24 April 2013 19:40 (twelve years ago)

are the new parisian hiding spots in breasts?

brb buying poppers w/my employee discount (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 22:12 (twelve years ago)

no, those are exposed

Call me at **BITCOIN (DJP), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 22:13 (twelve years ago)

"dragon's crown" is pretty bad as far as the fantasy title stakes go

the bitcoin comic (thomp), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 22:42 (twelve years ago)

i keep trying to think of a similarly useless (fantasy noun + possessive marker + fantasy noun) name but they all end up making more sense. chimeara's sword. orc's ring. goblin's robes. wtf does a dragon even want a crown for. mb he is ruling over other dragons, nm, is there a kingdom of dragons in this game, that could rule

someone posted some of the concept art upthread but it's been occluded by the whole panda thing

the bitcoin comic (thomp), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 22:44 (twelve years ago)

i like vanillaware generally

brb buying poppers w/my employee discount (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 22:45 (twelve years ago)

http://media.tumblr.com/1218669e5e644575b5dbff208b25c78a/tumblr_inline_ml6n4roM0q1qz4rgp.gif

the bitcoin comic (thomp), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 22:48 (twelve years ago)

generally

brb buying poppers w/my employee discount (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 22:53 (twelve years ago)

i mean it looks like a fun game?

did they run this feature before or after guy put his foot in his mouth i wonder

http://penny-arcade.com/report/article/you-dont-like-breasts-you-must-like-men-the-disappointing-conversation-and

the bitcoin comic (thomp), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 22:54 (twelve years ago)

dont read the comments dont read the comments why do i always read the comments

brb buying poppers w/my employee discount (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 22:58 (twelve years ago)

so for a game that does not come out for three months there is a hell of a lot of porn of this

the bitcoin comic (thomp), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 23:01 (twelve years ago)

... that walking gif looks kinda great actually

Nhex, Wednesday, 24 April 2013 23:29 (twelve years ago)

The hell is going on with the lumpy, horse-shaped amazon lady with a tiny head in that PA article thom posted? wtffff.

It is like ganging up on Enya (Trayce), Thursday, 25 April 2013 01:02 (twelve years ago)

Coming this fall: R. Dragon's Crumb

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 25 April 2013 01:06 (twelve years ago)

ha, exactly!

Nhex, Thursday, 25 April 2013 01:46 (twelve years ago)

i mean, i imagine an adventurer would get to have some pretty major thighs going on at some point. it's kind of funny kind of sad that the artist decided to exaggerate that to the level of fetish also?

the bitcoin comic (thomp), Thursday, 25 April 2013 01:56 (twelve years ago)

http://media.tumblr.com/3d268e66b27bc9bf87c28c93f5c2a012/tumblr_inline_mk0u29OAgf1qz4rgp.gif

the bitcoin comic (thomp), Thursday, 25 April 2013 01:56 (twelve years ago)

horsey

mh, Thursday, 25 April 2013 01:57 (twelve years ago)

"Let's step back from the social justice aspect of this kind of artwork and deal with the fact that 9 year-old girls find it stupid. I'd love for her to see games and want to be these women, not simply recoil at the fact that they're designed for my eyes more than her power fantasies."

Wtf, this is exactly what the social justice aspect is!

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 25 April 2013 07:37 (twelve years ago)

it is and it isn't.

the bitcoin comic (thomp), Thursday, 25 April 2013 17:39 (twelve years ago)

i. i think this is a good case for why 'casual racism and sexism are more accepted in video games than other media' is a bad way of phrasing the argument vs. something like 'more visible in video games than other media'. -- like, having sexed-up fantasy figures turned up to such a ridic degree makes it more obvious and undeniable that something's going on, that there is a problem here that needs addressing.

ii. kind of sad compared to previous form; a couple gay girls i know thought odin sphere was really amazing w/ the fairy princess types just whaling on guys and beating the shit out of them

iii. huh, i wanna play odin sphere

the bitcoin comic (thomp), Thursday, 25 April 2013 17:47 (twelve years ago)

its on psn

brb buying poppers w/my employee discount (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 25 April 2013 17:50 (twelve years ago)

i got it on sale on PSN a few weeks ago, been meaning to crack it

Nhex, Thursday, 25 April 2013 18:05 (twelve years ago)

http://i.imgur.com/Vex0WGq.jpg

turds (Hungry4Ass), Thursday, 25 April 2013 22:29 (twelve years ago)

weirdly into that

resulting paste of mashed cheez poops (silby), Thursday, 25 April 2013 22:30 (twelve years ago)

Reminding me weirdly of some awesome Greek mythology picture books I devoured as a kid.

Doctor Casino, Friday, 26 April 2013 03:34 (twelve years ago)

Somehow more erotic than his woman pics

mh, Friday, 26 April 2013 04:06 (twelve years ago)

This guy really might have a future in dude-on-dude art

None of them looks mysteriously like a horse

mh, Friday, 26 April 2013 04:07 (twelve years ago)


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