zombies? do i have to?
feeling this but will get it anyway. i'll wait for used copy at least
― joe bogus (am0n), Thursday, 6 June 2013 15:56 (eleven years ago) link
i have tried to get excited by this but yeah zombies post-apocalypse gritty survival blarrrgh
― O_o-O_O-o_O (jjjusten), Thursday, 6 June 2013 16:21 (eleven years ago) link
ha, but i thought you liked the Metro games?
― precious bonsai children of new york (Jordan), Thursday, 6 June 2013 16:23 (eleven years ago) link
i also keep confusing this with like 7 other games, like that ellen page one and whatever "remember me" is
the 2010s also seem to be the era of the "strong protagonist helps waify young dark haired girl with a smart haircut achieve her goals"
― O_o-O_O-o_O (jjjusten), Thursday, 6 June 2013 16:24 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbNmmK9Bhzw
― joe bogus (am0n), Thursday, 6 June 2013 16:25 (eleven years ago) link
i liked metro 2033 because its the king of interesting background mostly - any game that makes me want to hang out and listen to as many npc conversations as possible is an all time achievement tbh.
― O_o-O_O-o_O (jjjusten), Thursday, 6 June 2013 16:26 (eleven years ago) link
the 2010s also seem to be the era of the "strong protagonist helps waify young dark haired girl with a smart haircut achieve her goals"― O_o-O_O-o_O (jjjusten), Thursday, June 6, 2013 12:24 PM
haha true. at least here she doesn't have a huge head n eyes like a thrift store keane painting (bioschlock)
― joe bogus (am0n), Thursday, 6 June 2013 16:28 (eleven years ago) link
i am kind of resigned to the fact that despite my better judgment i will go for a walk one lunchtime and suddenly find myself somehow holding a copy of this game with 60 bucks missing from my wallet
― Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 6 June 2013 16:32 (eleven years ago) link
someone should make a game where you play as the waify girl trying to escape from the dude who keeps trying to help you + killing people.
― precious bonsai children of new york (Jordan), Thursday, 6 June 2013 16:34 (eleven years ago) link
^ dlc
― joe bogus (am0n), Thursday, 6 June 2013 16:35 (eleven years ago) link
main character looks like drake w/ a beard
http://i.imgur.com/PN3c5JS.jpg
― joe bogus (am0n), Thursday, 6 June 2013 16:46 (eleven years ago) link
lol.
― i wanna be a gabbneb baby (Hungry4Ass), Thursday, 6 June 2013 16:55 (eleven years ago) link
"GAMING'S CITIZEN KANE MOMENT"
oh good lord shut the fuck up
― O_o-O_O-o_O (jjjusten), Thursday, 6 June 2013 16:56 (eleven years ago) link
the gaming yankee foxtrot hotel has arrived
― joe bogus (am0n), Thursday, 6 June 2013 16:57 (eleven years ago) link
ok haha so despite not actually starring ellen page, the character from this looks uh exactly like ellen page?!
― O_o-O_O-o_O (jjjusten), Thursday, 6 June 2013 16:58 (eleven years ago) link
wait, they got 10/10 from God as a Geek????????? *runs to store*
― they are either militarists (ugh) or kangaroos (?) (DJP), Thursday, 6 June 2013 16:59 (eleven years ago) link
and her characters name? you guessed it: frank stallone ellie
― joe bogus (am0n), Thursday, 6 June 2013 17:01 (eleven years ago) link
OFFICIAL PLAYSTATION MAGAZINE says "this PS exclusive is a MUST-BUY"
― joe bogus (am0n), Thursday, 6 June 2013 17:03 (eleven years ago) link
http://images.crispygamer.com/public/column-2288/kanethegame.jpg
never forget
― Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 6 June 2013 17:07 (eleven years ago) link
actually, is there a gritty adventure narrative rhythm game out there? I would totally play that
― they are either militarists (ugh) or kangaroos (?) (DJP), Thursday, 6 June 2013 17:09 (eleven years ago) link
just play bit trip runner on a half broken black and white tv, that should get you there
― O_o-O_O-o_O (jjjusten), Thursday, 6 June 2013 17:12 (eleven years ago) link
until i see video demonstrating otherwise i assume this game is just zombie uncharted with some handwringing over the murdering
― adam, Thursday, 6 June 2013 17:21 (eleven years ago) link
gameplay looks the same, the molotov cocktail throw in the video above is exactly like uncharted grenades. i think main difference is that its more rpg, open world, carrying items, etc. i could be wrong tho
― joe bogus (am0n), Thursday, 6 June 2013 17:25 (eleven years ago) link
the laboured choking and the head-smashing are quite different from the tone of uncharted
― Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 6 June 2013 17:27 (eleven years ago) link
actually this isn't rpg at all so nm
― joe bogus (am0n), Thursday, 6 June 2013 17:33 (eleven years ago) link
ok i am getting this tomorrow and if it is anything less than gaming's citizen kane moment i am going to have been misled by advertising yet again
― Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 13 June 2013 11:40 (eleven years ago) link
this isnt the citizen kane of gaming... citizen kane is the The Last Of Us of cinema
― i wanna be a gabbneb baby (Hungry4Ass), Thursday, 13 June 2013 11:44 (eleven years ago) link
http://deadhomersociety.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/tellmemore.png
― Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 13 June 2013 12:41 (eleven years ago) link
that jpg has many ilx appropriate applications
― Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 13 June 2013 12:42 (eleven years ago) link
my hopes for this game are right around the level of gaming's lethal weapon moment, or at my most giddily optmstic, gaming's ghostbusters moment, although the original ghostbusters game had a fair claim to that distinction.
― Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 13 June 2013 12:45 (eleven years ago) link
it was pretty cool but man the loading times
― Nhex, Thursday, 13 June 2013 13:53 (eleven years ago) link
gaming's citizen kane with andy warhol's loading times
― am0n, Thursday, 13 June 2013 15:05 (eleven years ago) link
day 1 server issues :B
https://twitter.com/Naughty_Dog/status/345591249148985344
― am0n, Friday, 14 June 2013 17:36 (eleven years ago) link
http://thecitizenkaneofvideogames.tumblr.com/
― kenjataimu (cozen), Sunday, 16 June 2013 16:00 (eleven years ago) link
i am not sure this is gaming's citizen kane moment, but it is very good
― Roberto Spiralli, Sunday, 16 June 2013 16:24 (eleven years ago) link
it doesn't start off promisingly - for the first few sections of the game it doesn't hold your hand so much as take the controller, sit you down with a hot drink, and say 'listen, let me do this bit ok?'. but it gets beyond that, although it never quite stops giving you helpful nudges. it feels initially like it is aiming for Uncharted: Heavy Rain of Zombies but once it gets going it surpasses that low bar without effort. the basic gameplay is very simple and i did wonder if i really wanted to throw however many hours at doing the same thing over and over, but the game manages to keep contriving situations that refuse to let you just fall back on what worked last time, and that is probably the most impressive achievement. it's never scary but it is frequently intense. however it is as linear as all get out, no more illusion of choice of direction than i dunno operation wolf, so if you have a philosophical problem with that look elsewhere i guess.
supplies are scarce enough that you actually have to think about what your doing, which is essential for a game like this to work and if i'd have had to pick a place they'd have gone wrong that probably would've been it. it does look great, and the recognizable bits of boston at the start are very cool. the story and the characters and the voice acting etc are all at least reasonably intelligent but as usual the assumption is that gamers are impervious to subtlety, so none of it is what it could or should be to deserve the critical jizz.
so yeah, it is very good. it's paced so you can't put the controller down because you always feel like you're in the middle of something, but there is also a genuine feeling of not wanting to stop, of wanting to know what's next, and that's as much of a recommendation as anything imo.
― Roberto Spiralli, Sunday, 16 June 2013 16:41 (eleven years ago) link
how much space does it need to install on ps3? (ive only got the 12gb hd)
― NI, Sunday, 16 June 2013 19:03 (eleven years ago) link
it's 26gb so it will want 52 gb (!) to download and install.
― adam, Sunday, 16 June 2013 19:50 (eleven years ago) link
i mean from disc version - i've written off ever downloading anything on this flimsy thing
― NI, Monday, 17 June 2013 02:05 (eleven years ago) link
operation wolf!! i have not thought about that game in literally years
― the bitcoin comic (thomp), Monday, 17 June 2013 21:52 (eleven years ago) link
Anyone else getting a Children of Men vibe from this?
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 18 June 2013 13:09 (eleven years ago) link
getting a citizen kane vibefor christmaslil orson welles head that takes three AA batteries
― i didn't even give much of a fuck that you were mod (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 18 June 2013 20:06 (eleven years ago) link
hey remember how you were like man i love uncharted's shitty gameplay but all these engaging characters and this breezy story are really dragging me down? have i got the game for u
― adam, Tuesday, 18 June 2013 22:46 (eleven years ago) link
like right at the beginning of the game this little girl dies and it's like who cares but the protagonist is fuckin freaking out and it's just like that heavy rain glitch video where dude is like SHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWN
― adam, Tuesday, 18 June 2013 23:21 (eleven years ago) link
lmao
― am0n, Wednesday, 19 June 2013 02:06 (eleven years ago) link
This is good so far!
― lego maniac cop (latebloomer), Thursday, 20 June 2013 17:57 (eleven years ago) link
i'm kinda tempted? I don't like uncharted at all though.
― i didn't even give much of a fuck that you were mod (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 20 June 2013 18:05 (eleven years ago) link
I played Uncharted 2 for about 30 minutes and decided it wasn't for me. This, on the other hand, I started playing a couple nights ago and so far it totally rules, it's exactly Half-Life but it's too pretty and fun to not enjoy it.
― align="justify" font="ancient" (flamboyant goon tie included), Thursday, 20 June 2013 18:53 (eleven years ago) link
Just on a technical level, I am super impressed with how fluid it moves from "you're playing" to "watch this!". And (barring the insanely long install time) the loading times are fluid and wonderful. Zero inventory management. Skyrim was the only other Big PS3 game I felt compelled to complete but this one kills it. Critic hyperbole otm, imo
― align="justify" font="ancient" (flamboyant goon tie included), Thursday, 20 June 2013 18:58 (eleven years ago) link
In five weeks you'll make that joke again.
― Antifa Lockhart (Leee), Tuesday, 27 September 2022 03:28 (two years ago) link
it's good casting at least
― “Cheeky cheeky!” she trills, nearly demolishing a roadside post (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 27 September 2022 22:56 (two years ago) link
I'm going to make the same joke at least once per cycle.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 27 September 2022 23:19 (two years ago) link
i just want somebody to make a limited series of Super Mega Baseball 2
― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 28 September 2022 16:45 (two years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3DTWBVJBpo
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 3 October 2022 15:27 (one year ago) link
i'd like to know if this is a snarky Dunkey or a serious Dunkey before i watch
― Nhex, Monday, 3 October 2022 22:04 (one year ago) link
serious
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 3 October 2022 22:17 (one year ago) link
ok, solid
― Nhex, Wednesday, 5 October 2022 01:48 (one year ago) link
Show is supposed to be great. If I'm going to get caught up in that world again, I think I'm officially starting "Last of Us Part 2" for the first time. Wish me luck! Hope I fare better than John Carpenter.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 11 January 2023 12:56 (one year ago) link
I'd be surprised if season 1 covers more than Part 1! But I'm also not going to tell someone not to play Part 2.
― Rabbity Gainsborough (Leee), Wednesday, 11 January 2023 16:38 (one year ago) link
I just meant that I will be in the LoU mindset, though I did hear that S1 might at least nod to elements of Part 2, or set stuff up. Not that I would notice if I didn't play it first.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 11 January 2023 18:15 (one year ago) link
So, the show has only THREE episodes left, and I'm going to guess it'll break down like this:
7: Left Behind DLC -- alternating the mall stuff and the flashbacks with Riley, and ending with Ellie sewing up Joel.8: David9: SLC/Giraffes
I guess with so few left, there's not a whole lot of wiggle room for weird detours.
― Shartreuse (Leee), Thursday, 23 February 2023 01:30 (one year ago) link
Exactly what I figured. And imo it's not enough. All those detours haven't given Joel and Ellie much time together, especially since two of the three likely episodes left mostly focus on them apart. The show is going from Joel literally on the cusp of leaving her to the way it all ends, which seems pretty ... rushed.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 23 February 2023 13:31 (one year ago) link
Depends if Ep9 is going to have the whole Giraffe backstory detour like Ep3.
captured in Africa,Sent to the Zoo,outbreak,post outbreak shenanigans/bartering with monkeys etc,meet Joel & Ellie.
― my opinionation (Hamildan), Friday, 24 February 2023 17:01 (one year ago) link
Isn't that the plot of "Madagascar"
Maybe they'll reveal that the outbreak started with the giraffes, and all the Last of Us 2 haters will explode with renewed rage.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 24 February 2023 18:03 (one year ago) link
Although I don't think that the pacing has been compressed for the rest of the season, I do think that Joel going from "you're better off with Tommy" to "Giddy-up, kiddo" felt abrupt without the intervening montage of the three of them traveling back to Jackson that let us see him reconsider.
― Shartreuse (Leee), Friday, 24 February 2023 18:05 (one year ago) link
I get that that whole detour was to show that Joel is starting to feel older and less secure about himself but yeah, it didn't really work quite right for me. Also being an absolute dick to his beloved brother when he said he was married and expecting
― the forces of darkness making making us laugh ourselves into DEATH?? (dog latin), Friday, 24 February 2023 18:45 (one year ago) link
I *definitely* think this season should have been episode longer, knowing what's left for it to show. But I suppose one advantage of the show over the game is that Bella and Pedro are actors, not animated, which can let them do some pretty heavy lifting with just a wince or a smile in the way the game (however exemplary the animation) can't quite compare.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 27 February 2023 13:20 (one year ago) link
While I am impressed at how well they have compressed the game, this episode felt particularly rushed.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 6 March 2023 03:27 (one year ago) link
Quick perusal of YT shows compilations of all the game's cutscenes take about 3-5 hours (HLTB lists 15 hours to beat the main story) -- so while the runtime doesn't suggest that dramatic content is being cut, maybe the transition from gameplay to just viewing is where things feel wonky for you?
― Shartreuse (Leee), Tuesday, 7 March 2023 22:23 (one year ago) link
But of course there's more to the game's story than the cut scenes. For example, the stuff with Bill, hanging upside is gameplay, but that whole scene is still part of the narrative. I was skimming a cutscene compilation the other day, and there's a lot of not strictly cut scene that's not included, like the shooting of Marlene. I guess that's not a cutscene, but it's pretty important! Also, of course, just the general gameplay itself develops (the) character(s).
But, like, I find it shocking that the Bill and Frank episode (which is not important, however good) gets over 80 minutes, but this most recent one (which is also ultimately maybe not important, but is dramatically impactful to the connection between Ellie and Joel) gets less an hour. And the next episode is reportedly the shortest one of the season!
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 8 March 2023 00:53 (one year ago) link
And here I was thinking that my Steam Deck was going to replace PS consoles: https://kotaku.com/last-of-us-pc-port-glitch-iron-galaxy-building-shaders-1850278718
― Shartreuse (Leee), Wednesday, 29 March 2023 22:05 (one year ago) link
3D glitch nightmare fuel... surprised there hasn't yet been a AA game that does these things intentionally. Or maybe there is?
― Nhex, Thursday, 30 March 2023 12:20 (one year ago) link
Is this for real? https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ftc8vMnakAA6U43?format=jpg&name=large
― Shartreuse (Leee), Wednesday, 12 April 2023 04:20 (one year ago) link
A new patch for the PS5 version of The Last of Us Part I is now available, including new @HBO t-shirt cosmetics for Ellie, as well as improvements and fixes to combat, accessibility, audio, and more.Read the full patch notes here: https://t.co/YGzDjEWHM6 pic.twitter.com/CLRTN5wsKu— Naughty Dog (@Naughty_Dog) April 11, 2023
So I guess just cosmetic novelties. Pretty tacky, regardless.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 12 April 2023 11:43 (one year ago) link
as well as improvements and fixes to combat, accessibility, audio, and more.
― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 12 April 2023 11:56 (one year ago) link
Yeah, that's the rest of it.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 12 April 2023 12:02 (one year ago) link
Pretty good summary of the formal shortcomings of the HBO show:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8Hs8_DzU3M
― Last of the Mojitos (Leee), Saturday, 8 July 2023 23:19 (one year ago) link
TLOU stuff starts at 13:05.
― Last of the Mojitos (Leee), Saturday, 8 July 2023 23:20 (one year ago) link
interesting, it's a real testament to this story and its evolution that people are still discovering, discussing and debating it.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 9 July 2023 15:06 (one year ago) link
gonna hard disagree Josh. the story is pulp trash that we’ve seen a million times. it’s about zombies for christ sake. what made it different was the execution. the acting in particular is tremendous. the co-op mechanic, also not new, actually worked instead of being annoying. the gameplay loops were very satisfying and the difficulty was pitched just right. etc
― Tracer Hand, Sunday, 9 July 2023 15:26 (one year ago) link
pulp trash? hmm.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 9 July 2023 16:00 (one year ago) link
I do see what you mean, but the characters are what ultimately sets it apart, imo, and the characters are the sum of writing and performance, which ultimately adds up to story. The gameplay and all those other important details, I think that's what helps it achieve more than just good story, for sure. But, like, its big inspiration was The Road, which is also pretty familiar stuff, but far from pulp trash, because of it execution. Again, imo.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 9 July 2023 16:03 (one year ago) link
I don't think Tracer was slamming the game, just noting that the plot itself is rote.
― Last of the Mojitos (Leee), Sunday, 9 July 2023 16:05 (one year ago) link
I think the specific callout from the video I linked I wanted to mention was the gulf between the playable action vs. set-piece adaptation. The Capitol Building clicker section is still way scarier in the game than it'll ever be for me just watching it on the show because I can actually fail that section, but something that's easier to overlook is the supply economy, inventory management, etc., i.e. basic gameplay elements that are uncinematic but go a long way to establishing the game's mood.
― Last of the Mojitos (Leee), Sunday, 9 July 2023 16:16 (one year ago) link
Yeah, I think I got that, but the video basically enforced that the same story has now been told essentially four different times, each using more or less the exact same framework with their own set of pros and cons. I agree that losing the gameplay is the biggest con, the question becomes how much does it fundamentally change that framework. I agree that it changes it a lot, and I agree with the video, in that the show lost something that the game uniquely provided, despite being overwhelmingly similar otherwise.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 9 July 2023 16:40 (one year ago) link
mourning the emotional wallop of crafting after hbo had finished sucking all the usable material out of the powerful cutscenes about fatherhood is exactly what millennial gamers had coming to them the moment they signed that infernal pact with roger ebert imo, a learning experience
― difficult listening hour, Sunday, 9 July 2023 18:41 (one year ago) link
Drag Me To TV
― difficult listening hour, Sunday, 9 July 2023 18:42 (one year ago) link
https://kotaku.com/last-of-us-clicker-bread-sculpture-joel-ellie-1850908509
― Hoisted by your own Picard (Leee), Monday, 9 October 2023 17:55 (eleven months ago) link
Ok I was not prepared for the “from behind” scene. Not sure what my 11 yo thought about it either
― calstars, Friday, 2 August 2024 21:10 (one month ago) link
refresh my memory
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 3 August 2024 09:40 (one month ago) link
Do you mean Left Behind the expansion for the first game?
Thought it was great. Translated well on the show too
― octobeard, Saturday, 3 August 2024 10:33 (one month ago) link
I hope it's Left Behind and not the scene from Part 2...
― Élisabeth Vigée Lebron (Leee), Saturday, 3 August 2024 15:10 (one month ago) link
ngl i don’t remember any doggystyle in either game
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 3 August 2024 15:32 (one month ago) link
Probably for the best
― calstars, Saturday, 3 August 2024 17:19 (one month ago) link
Ohhhh you mean the boat sex scene?
― octobeard, Saturday, 3 August 2024 17:21 (one month ago) link
I've resumed my Grounded playthrough of LoU II .. And this really is the way to play. Yes it's very hard. You have no HUD, you have no ability to "see" sounds, everybody can see MUCH further (basically if you can see them they can see you), everybody causes more damage, they go on alert much more quickly, you have to be quiet as a fuckin mouse if you plan on sneaking up on anyone, particularly clickers. (I actually thought they had removed the ability to stealth kill clickers until I finally got one. The technique is to move about 1mm per hr and then right at the end push the fuck up and get them.)
The upshot is that you essentially have to learn how to beat each level perfectly. Run and gun is impossible. There are only a very small handful of moments where you're forced to break cover. So each level becomes more contemplative - like a puzzle - though still quite tense of course because grisly death awaits any misstep. What's kind of mindblowing is that there are entire levels where you can essentially just skirt everything if you pick out the right route. But in order to get there you need to get to know every nook and cranny like the back of your hand. It is the way to really appreciate every little detail that they put into the game - details you would normally be blazing past.
Another consequence is that the game is verrrrrry long I've been playing for hours and hours and still haven't made the switch into Abby, still haven't met the cultists, Lev, etc.
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Friday, 6 September 2024 11:08 (three weeks ago) link