Why is casual racism/sexism more accepted in video games than other forms of media (these days)?

ughhhhhh why do i ever start reading comments sections on things

Why is casual racism/sexism more accepted in Grand Theft Auto than other games (these days)?

no takers huh

cuz 1 billion dollars

The defence everyone seems to come up with is "sure, the game hates women and minorities, but it hates everyone else too so that's ok". I'm far from convinced that does make it ok, but it muddies the water enough for them to get away with it.

most people seem to claim "it's satire", and when you explain that it's pretty difficult to do satirical racism and misogyny when there's no sense that the game or any of its developers disapprove of it they get real defensive

Somebody could probably get a good feature out of exploring the way-different vibes that GTA vs Saints Row take with their characters and the difference between the sexy/sexist breakdown happens.

Oooh, this is a good key word: "hateful". Nothing in SR seems hateful at all. The entire game is a pisstake.

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2013-09-30-women-in-games-rebalancing-the-scales

'"I haven't played GTA V, and I'll be sorry if my enjoyment is spoiled because one writer, or a collection or writers, was allowed to introduce content that I find alienating or hateful"

I've never seen that site before but I love that all the comments list the title and studio of each commenter; it means I can look up what work people with cool opinions have done or are doing :~)

http://tevisthompson.com/on-videogame-reviews/

http://pagead2.googlesyndication.com/simgad/16030248625351249843

have we learned nothing from Evony?

must be so hard to keep female gamers out of games like that

finally we have the pirate sideboob game the public has been crying out for

hoo boy I am having a discussion with a friend of mine of Facebook over that Bioshock/reviewers suck blog article

fortunately dude is mostly reasonable so it's more "I disagree with that post you linked" rather than "obviously the guy who wrote that is the real racist"

is the whole series this dumb? I've never played any of em

Apparently yes? I've never played them, either.

is the new one not good? i've been waiting for it to go on discount on steam, and the first one i remember was pretty great (at least up until the twist - i got bored shortly thereafter). it looks pretty

lol:

The game's concept was developed by Irrational's creative lead, Ken Levine, and was based on the ideas of Objectivism as highlighted by Ayn Rand, while incorporating influences from other authors such as George Orwell.

the first one was more of a "critique" of objectivism than "based on"

infinite is very good. those challops are pretty stale.

first one was great. it did drag on a bit too long and the gameplay was so-so FPS junk, but those are minor complaints in what was an excellent package. I still have to get to the second one

http://www.polygon.com/features/2013/12/2/5143856/no-girls-allowed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CU9mZJ8vmdA

i didn't know there was more than one of those girlfriend xbone ads. they're on a roll!

infinite is very good. those challops are pretty stale.

― brand nubian wafers (bnw), Monday, October 21, 2013 12:35 PM (1 month ago) Bookmark

its one of the worst games ive ever played. i pirated it and i still feel ripped off

fucking idiots
http://storify.com/SeeBeeWhitman/depression-quest-harassment-campaign

this shit makes me so sad and angry and it just perpetuates over and over and i don't know how it's ever going to stop

its one of the worst games ive ever played. i pirated it and i still feel ripped off

― Hungry4Ass, Wednesday, December 4, 2013 9:47 PM (1 week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this is what you need to do. cue up a video of ken levine discussing the depth of the storyline you are failing to grasp. have that playing a loop on your headset as you go through the game. then report back to me on if you still hate it.

xp ugh. good for her for standing up to these idiots, it's a shame she has to deal with this bullshit

i don't think this belongs in this thread but i couldn't think of a better one to post it too. depressing:

http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2013/12/13/the-messy-saga-of-replays-paul-trowe-as-al-lowe-quits/

wtf at that link in the comments citing this guy as a child molester 20 years ago

http://www.crowdfundinsider.com/2013/12/28331-watch-kickstarter-alum-mighty-9-takes-heat-community-manager-hire/

http://i.imgur.com/25VQ6Zn.jpg

gamers barrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrf

"megaman has never been a western series. please keep western ideals/movements such as 'female empowerment and representation' very far away from megaman."

i read that and immediately think megaman v john wayne totin copies of the second sex in his satchel

http://imgur.com/a/sfl3r

even the edited versions are still kinda over the top, why bother, honestly?
ugh, don't make me side with creepos

p.s. new year, new acct d?

tbf its not like there aren't skimpy costumes for the male characters too

http://www.psmag.com/navigation/health-and-behavior/women-arent-welcome-internet-72170/

long read, not video games but same frequency

very sad

http://www.blog.radiator.debacle.us/2014/02/an-alternate-history-of-flappy-bird-we.html

the internet was harassing Dong Nguyen for making a game, which is unacceptable. -- links to tweets where ppl are yelling at him for taking it off the website; probably over-the-top but his one link to how the internet harassed Nguyen disproves his argument.

it seems to me like flappy bird has been really embraced. it's super popular and everyone i know loves it.

I definitely saw some twitter weirdness about the guy before he announced he was taking it down. But I have no idea if the race thing has anything to do with it.

And the abuse directed toward him for taking it down doesn't disprove that there was abuse directed toward him beforehand. That's a pretty odd thing to claim.

it's just that he cites that particular link as evidence that ppl disliked the game. he continues in the next paragraph:

This harassment was also completely baseless, because (a) the game is rather well-made, if you like these sorts of insta-death reflex games, (b) Flappy Bird lets you restart quickly, which is usually a huge monetization point -- why would a supposedly-greedy mobile game developer monetize their game so inefficiently?, (c) if you look at the actual pixels, Nguyen clearly did not rip any art, and who cares if he wanted to put green pipes in his game?

if he can't correctly parse a bunch of ppl being upset bc a game they like is being taken away from them, maybe he lacks the skills to do a more complex sociopolitical analysis of the racial context of the game.

Hm, okay, I get what you're saying - he didn't provide the right evidence, it kind of scuppers his argument. But personally I've seen stuff that backs up his claim... But yeah, I can't be arsed to look for it myself now, and he should have done the work anyway, not me.

Robert Yang Fartmaster • a day ago −
Hey "fartmaster" -- almost every mainstream outlet has made a point of announcing Nguyen as Vietnamese. I don't think that, itself, is bad, because I'd agree that's newsworthy given the state of the mobile market... yet it certainly plays a role... like whether you think he's just expressing his love of Mario (what, so your fandom of Mario is more genuine than his?) vs. he's somehow now a conniving thief who's claiming he invented the idea of pixel art pipes that he drew himself?

like what is even the argument here? that ppl are being racist against the vietnamese designer homaging a japanese video game icon by relying on the old shopworn vietnamese are thieves (?????is this a thing????) stereotype?