The Last of Us - it's the time of the season

the combat was fun i agree with tracer about the feeling of giddiness when it was abt to happen

also lol the random notes lying around everywhere for no decent reason, best part is the end where marlene leaves multiple tape recorders lying around like who carries around multiple tape recorders for different entries in a single audio diary and then leaves them around?

the story and """"emotions"""" are geeked over by gamers bc gamers are trained by the terrible storytelling of the gaming industry to respond dramatically to even the most slightly not-shitty story and characterizations. the very ending w/joel was alright as a turn but i don't get projecting what happened over the rest of the game like it was earned, or like the majority of the story wasn't just there to reach that point. it's hard to do, making a 15-20 hr story seem tight when you have to intersperse it with hours and hours of largely silly and unbelievable combat situations, but i'm still not gonna go easy on it u kno. like i can see where the story beats are in each season (and "winter" was really fantastic) but it's still so shoddy front to back.

when i was maybe 10 or 11 i remember bearing witness to a conversation my brother and his friends were having -- they were all 3 yrs older and big big big JRPG nerds, and one of them mentioned crying when aeris died, and i immediately responded like "what? you cried? at that??" and he was like "oh you little one, one day you will be cool and in tune with your emotions like me" like he was so proud and almost bragging about having an emotional response to a game and even then i could tell it was sort of forced. i loved ff7! but come on. for like the next 3 times i watched my brother play through ff7 (he played a loooooooot) i think i tried to cry at that moment. i think of that every time a game comes around that makes nerds get all loudly emotional when it offers less emotional pull than a paul ws anderson video game movie

same feeling as when i told my friend i was playing HL2 and he was like "oh man aren't you just like totally in love with alyx vance" and i just sort of stared

well, talking of hl2 (and this) (and bioshock infinite):

bc gamers are trained by the terrible storytelling of the gaming industry to respond dramatically to even the most slightly not-shitty story and characterizations cute girls in peril from which only you can rescue them

(nb i have not played this so i'm not saying there is not More going on but this certainly seems to be a key, uh, storytelling strategy, in the industry these days.)

can't remember if alyx ever got herself into much peril but iirc her conversation was always trembling just at the brink of fellatio

but then to be fair so was the conversation of literally every npc in the game. gordon freeman!!!

she was meaningless pixels, a total non-person who was barely even in the game

she was the state-of-the-art scripted NPC FPS companion of the day. remember that up until that point we had... Daikatana and the hapless Black Mesa staff

was kinda affected by the single endlessly replicated security guard model hl1 had, who joined you to enthusiastically fight by your side every time you encountered him and invariably died ninety seconds later. an eerie purgatorial thing. of course in hl2 he/they was/were retconned into the metaphysically uninteresting "barney".

even deus ex sucked at this, and yet i rescued the suicidally aggressive "miguel" from his prison cell every single fucking time, even though the game gave you no incentive whatsoever to do so besides feeling bad for this nonexistent idiot for no reason

lol had a long rant with Joel the other day about stories and acting being "good for a game" and how that is code for "too shitty for even the worst straight to DVD movie to get away with"

also lol the random notes lying around everywhere for no decent reason, best part is the end where marlene leaves multiple tape recorders lying around like who carries around multiple tape recorders for different entries in a single audio diary and then leaves them around?

this is bioshock's fault, which means it's system shock 2's fault, which kinda makes me sad to admit

in bioshock infinite iirc they were entire phonographs? fuck games.

cute girls in peril from which only you can rescue them

(nb i have not played this so i'm not saying there is not More going on but this certainly seems to be a key, uh, storytelling strategy, in the industry these days.)

no idea why i said "these days" btw sry my brain was in another castle

lol that games are still doing that. it was cool in system shock tho , that you wd be wandering around hiding from mutants and shit while listening to them, novel for the 90s

I remember feeling vaguely moved at a cut scene in ffix where the black mages are all falling from the airship and a music box is playing or something. perhaps a v self aware moment. whereas aeris dying is just like rpg iconography 101

moment I found moving in ffvii as an adolescent: cloud and toga hanging out by the whatsit crater, everything emotionally unresolved, unsure if their friends will join them to go to their probable deaths, a 30-40 looping wind sound effect in the background and no other soundtrack. I think that was it tho

*tifa

for like the next 3 times i watched my brother play through ff7 (he played a loooooooot) i think i tried to cry at that moment

this is an incredible memory.

it's hard to do, making a 15-20 hr story seem tight when you have to intersperse it with hours and hours of largely silly and unbelievable combat situations

For certain games like this, the visual lushness of the world grants so much to the experience and the story, if not explicit. I vividly remember one point where you're escaping Philadelphia after meeting that father-son duo, and you have to escape through a toy store. Now if you're just gunning it, it takes less than ten seconds to run through there. But I stopped and looked around and how much detail was in this set that you could just glance at and never notice, how much effort and craft it took to make this store, it amazed me, all the shelves, objects, signs, overgrown foliage, broken glass, individual toys and colors and everything; the distress to show the age and burden of what the store had been in this universe. They probably put almost as much effort into this one-time use setting as they did those endless apartment buildings where you had to choke out a few dozen psychos.

this novel was full of what hemingway called ... true sentences

I finally played the DLC and FUCK ME THIS IS THE BEST DLC EVER. Chock a block with surprising moments, both of fear and delight. There is an incredible scene where, well I'm not going to spoil it because it's too good but it's just the most touching love letter to the power of video games, the power of friendship and the power of imagination all explicitly rolled into one.

Also you get to play as Ellie, and you get to kick ass.

Which is so totally satisfying and awesome that I forgot for awhile that in the main game you play 95% of it as tough-nuts beardo dude.

*thumbs up*

Anyone played through the main game again? Seriously tempted, especially as I did it on "normal" the first time.

I enjoyed it so much on PS3 I ended up getting the remastered version for the PS4. It's the only time I've ever double-dipped for a game, and one of the very rare occasions I've wanted to do a second run after finishing the first time. I'm only a couple of hours in but really looking forward to going through the whole thing again - I've already noticed some stuff I missed on the first playthrough.

I played through on PS3--there's a big advantage as you get to keep your weapons and level-ups, so it turns into more of a straight-up action game. You don't get to keep your unlocks from the previous gen in the PS4 version, which bummed me out.

I also played a bit of the multiplayer for the first time. I generally despise playing with strangers but it's way more fun than I expected - it does a really good job of keeping the tension of the main game.

xpost @ tracer, seriously, play on hard for sure. I did my first playthrough on hard and it's way more fun and survival-horror-ish imo. You have to really sneak around and strategize every encounter, at least until you get the flamethrower late in the game.

^oh, good to know. this came with my borrowed PS3, planning on playing it whenever i finish Demon's Souls.

If you like demon's souls you should definitely play on hard. Or the harder-than-hard one, where you don't get to use your sonar thing, which was way too hard for me but if much more of a YOU DIED type of gameplay experience (with lots of checkpoints and pretty fast respawns)

The restarts are seriously amazing in this game. Like 3-4 seconds max.

OK, I think I'm in for hard.

I don't even remember the flamethrower??!? Maybe i never got it ;_;

i'd worry playing through snowville on hard, that part was torture for me

like the story in retrospect more than after i just finished playing but it's one of those things where it gets compressed into smth much smaller in my memory and idk

I like the story as long as I'm thinking about it separately from the gameplay. If you consider what you as the player do to be part of the story, then it's a story in which Joel is a mega-ubermensch who brutally kills his way through hundreds of dudes, rather than negotiating, compromising, and using his wits. That's obviously a standard a lot of games fail, but I feel like it becomes more of a tension as narratives aspire to certain kinds of seriousness.

joel has some massive, violent psychopathic tendencies - that jibes with the story, he's killed hundreds of dudes (at least) before you start playing as the old man

Played through this over the last few days. It's incredibly well made but I can't say I had that much fun playing it, spent more time wowing at the scenery and idle animations etc than all the shoot bang and lame puzzles (though appreciated Ellie giving it the "again?" when asked to stand on a pallet for the nth time.) They do a v good job of funnelling you down a route while making it feel that you are choosing to go that way. Fav bit was start of winter with the deer, is there such a thing as an arrow-based fps, like a Neolithic survival game?

xp yeah of all games where violent behaviour seems to contrast with the character, psycho behaviour is pretty consistent with joel's character. Don't want to spoiler this thread as apparently some people are still playing but there's some shit coming.

I started this again and just got Ellie. Killed Robert (I forgot how disturbing that was; it wasn't necessary to shoot him in the face but we did anyway).

Saw a "Wanted" poster for Riley :(

Is Marlene Riley's mom, by the way? Ellie says "Marlene knew my mom, she's taken care of me." Just a thought... If so, the moment when Ellie and Marlene say goodbye to each other is even more affecting; it's the last connection Ellie had with Riley.

I actually really enjoy the combat. There's something both relaxing and engaging about it, it strikes just the right balance between puzzle-ness and YEAAAARGHness.

I'm not finding hard TOO hard yet, though the supplies are quite few and far between.

By the way, if you played through on normal, you don't get to keep any of your shit if you play through on hard afterwards ;_;

Oh nm:

Riley was born at some point in either 2016 or 2017. When she was younger, her father was infected with CBI and killed her mother, tearing her to shreds. Riley was forced to kill him in order to save her own life.[5]

anybody ever read the comic?
http://thelastofus.wikia.com/wiki/The_Last_of_Us:_American_Dreams

it's sitting on my pile of TPBs yet to read, i should read it

is the Left Behind side thing worth playing? how long is it?

a) this thread including me universally says yes
b) 5 or so hours? maybe less

I'd say 3.5 or 4 but absolutely worth playing

ok that seems manageable, will give it a go. thanks!

Just met up with Bill (Hicks?)

it's the guy who played dan dority from deadwood. looks like him too:

http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120718152858/thelastofus/images/5/52/Wearl.jpg

"Ellie."

"What?"

"Tell 'em Ellie is the name of the little girl who BROKE YOUR FUCKING FINGER!"

Played it again on hard. I was surprised by how easy some sections were. Fights that were permanently burned into my brain, locales that I knew were coming up and which put a knot in my stomach, wound up being not too big of a deal. Obviously it helped that I vaguely remembered my successful strategies from the first time through. But I suspect that fewer supplies actually made it easier, in a way, because I had to play smarter. Several sections that I'd blasted through, with immense difficulty, the first time around, I just stealthed past, no biggie, see ya suckers. And knifing the cannibal in the steakhouse was a piece of cake, almost disappointingly so.

The only place I really got stuck for awhile was before the cannibal turns on you, in that fucking concrete room with the clickers and runners coming through the windows and the bloater who comes down through the ceiling. I was quite unlucky in that I had only one tick of health left when that scene started so any hit was fatal. Kept me on my toes.

I found myself wanting the melee combat to be just a little smoother and better, but in general the combat is just so satisfying to me for some reason in this game. (I haven't played enough other games to really know why, I don't think.)

remastered version looks fucking good. enjoying this more 2nd time around

I always soup up my melee weapon just because connecting with some fool's skull and yanking a nail through it feels so fucking good

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