Why is casual racism/sexism more accepted in video games than other forms of media (these days)?

yes, i agree. ppl are shit.

He's scum for taking it public. End of story.

trading good press for sex?

― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, August 19, 2014 8:36 PM (23 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i don't think he accuses her of doing it for favors.

― Mordy, Tuesday, August 19, 2014 8:42 PM (17 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

ok soooo--if he *doesn't* accuse her of doing it for favors, the writers are inventing the quid pro quo? which isn't, say, airing your ex girlfriend's sexual history in a giant tumblr post and blasting it at 4chan knowing they'll spew horror at her level of crazy irresponsible and shitty and misgynistic, but is pretty irresponsible and shitty and misogynistic?

yeah when you have been wronged & lied to there's a strong impluse to LET THE WORLD KNOW but damn if some shame wouldn't be a perverse help to this guy right now. what is it with nerds and total disclosure these days? the "hypocrisy" of the normals has its uses, guys...

xp yeah i agree, i wasn't speaking against your post Mordy

my basic takeaway is that most people involved in videogames should be set on fire, which is too bad because I really enjoy videogames and I think the screaming would keep me up at night

GameBurner 2014 - The Baconing

RIP upper m m s

Xp

a lot of ppl are upset bc in general the gaming media is horrible and it seems like a journalist gave a designer good publicity without disclosing that they were in a relationship. while i agree that the cheating + the lying + the gaslighting are probably not in the public interest, i can understand why ppl already enflamed about compromised journalistic standards would take interest in this story.

like i'm sure they didn't trade sexual favors for good coverage. the good coverage was pretty minimal and that seems unnecessarily vulgar. but i wasn't allowed to review books written by ppl i had once taken classes w/ in college years prior bc of the conflict of interest. otoh there seem to be far worse stuff going on in gaming media, like blatant payola for coverage stuff.

cheating is bad and ugly breakups are bad but airing out your dirty laundry on the internet is fucking bitchmade and siccing the cheetoh-dust army on your ex who works in technology is evil

― goole, Tuesday, August 19, 2014 9:59 PM (51 minutes ago)

^^^

can we not call it bitchmade tho like

if she wasn't actually swapping sex for good reviews how are the original blog/this woeful gamerheadlines piece not slander or libellous? and either way, these pieces are just absolutely disgusting. her riposte is very strong and stirring, and she's right - she shouldn't have to defend any of this stuff in public.

Xp: can we also not be down on people who eat cheeto dust, while we're at it?

Yeah, actually, my eyes elided over 'bitchmade', probably because I have no idea what it means? Is it a US thing or am I just behind on my internet slang? Obv anything with 'bitch' is going to be at least a little problematic.

Anyway, the general thrust of goole's post is still OTM.

also

Among them was current Kotaku writer Nathan Grayson, apparently solicitating sexual favours for positive press.

so solicitating is a word now?

also

leveraging her sexual connections

this guy's whole take on sex and women is unsurprisingly weird and awkward and how you might expect an extra terrestrial to discuss human behaviour when viewed from afar

also

https://thezoepost.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/screen-shot-2014-08-19-at-7-07-56-pm.png

is astonishingly asinine and self-serving bullshit

did i ever talk about how i went to my brother's convocation from college (diff in Canada, college != university, actually not 100% sure of the american analogue to this -- technical college? junior college? you can take anything from a 6mo bartending course to a 4y PR course) in this thread?

he convocated (sry not a word) with the entire media division of his school, he was in radio but i also saw the kids go up for tv, PR, advertising, etc etc etc including game design. as someone working in that field my heart was mildly warmed to see the bright new faces of the industry get their diploma-certificate-things. i was significantly less warmed to see more fedoras worn with gowns (2) than women (0). :( always reminded that the overwhelming sameness of the people working in the industry doesn't just start at the corporate level, it starts super super low. i was hoping, i guess?, that at the age newly graduating, the gap would be decreasing -- after all, everyone, not just boys of families with means, have had computers and internet from... almost birth at this point! and yet, something is still happening where the culture even at the education level is still homogenized. i dont get why the priv sector doesn't see this as a problem. of course tho investing in scholarships and grants for women would be seen as an attack on MENS RIGHTS or something idk. the whole thing BUMS ME OUT. :(

i meant to say something a day ago re: "bitchmade" and didn't. it's an ugly coinage when unpacked even just a little. so, yeah.

in the '90s bitchmade meant 'awesome' (probably?)

some good news:
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/female-adults-oust-teenage-boys-largest-gaming-demographic/

have not investigated much beyond headlines but apparently a couple internet creepo types made a 'documentary' 'exposing' anita sarkeesian (sp)

just a heads up i guess

or 'are making' more accurately

why can't any of these be as entertaining as "In Search of Bigfoot"

re: the documentary, I liked a lot about this piece:

http://badassdigest.com/2014/08/26/video-games-misogyny-and-terrorism-a-guide-to-assholes

But it’s hard to self-identify as “a gamer” when there’s also a large swathe of that community apparently committed to presenting us all as a bunch of hateful sociopaths. It’s like being a moderate Muslim in the middle of the continuing ISIS takeover and oppression of Iraq.

heh

Maybe the ISIS dudes met on 4chan.

since even relative-anonymity on the internet makes ppl act like assholes, obv the answer is:

http://www.hoodedutilitarian.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/panopticon-diagram.jpg

haha why didn't i watch this before

these guys are amazing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROHvvtUcp8I

Watched some of that a few days ago and it took me three minutes to figure out it wasn't a parody. The 'tasche dude is unreal.

*'tache*

oh god i'm terrified of that

the standy-up guy likes some Ayn Rand too so y'know

Wow, have you looked at mustachioed guy's channel?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdkB2-kqbrw&list=UU6TJdRrZR_WacbxJWiRZ5_g

god, they're so fucking boring

http://www.funnymemes.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/mOtVh6v.gif

He's like a dozen different kinds of creep all at once. I'm dreading this video titled 'The Jewish Question'.

^interest peaked^

Unless the answer is "Try the rugelach, you'll like it," run

Anyway, Feminist Frequency's new video is good stuff. The scene she shows from God of War III is incredible.

yeah having tuned out AAA games for the past 5 years or so (except for skyrim) i was amazed/horrified by that god of war clip

is it notably worse than the fucking QTE from gow 1?

That isn't even the worst scene in God of War III, btw, it's just one that fits the parameters of Anita's theme for the video. There's a scene that isn't a background detail that is sooooo vile.

AAA games are absolutely rife with this shit and it's not even a little bit of a secret
it's part of why i'm more forgiving of the mawkish indie variety of mopey games where the sexism is more fedora'd a'la Braid

Braid wore a trilby iirc

lol wtf

https://twitter.com/dankmtl/status/505101945976422401

needs more game informer
also notable lack of joystiq and kotaku, must mean something

Lolling hard at Jim Sterling being on there, the guy who called any woman who dared to disagree with him a "feminazi slut"

It seems he had a Damascene moment at some point in the last 3 years
http://www.gamingaswomen.com/posts/2013/06/an-interview-with-jim-sterling-about-sexism-in-game-culture/