Why is casual racism/sexism more accepted in video games than other forms of media (these days)?

he be in the kitchen cooking pies with his baby, yaeeeeeeaheeeeaaah

in the kitchen with his choad.

my balls shrivel a little further every time i see that jpeg

8=D ... :=D

my favorite is imagining the I'm Brian voice

stevie otm. i know i have previously complained about how traumatically awful that is. i am just going to FP anyone who posts it in the future. as stalin said, the death of millions is merely a statistic compared to the tragedy of one individual who thought that was a reasonable communication.

seriously, my balls

pretty terrible Gamerscore too

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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CCAvZM3WEAA1N-A.png

tweet series neglects to mention that chat excerpt is the same person talking into three mirrors

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SYc_flMnMQ

xp this is the plot of that fake movie from Adaptation

What is sad puppies?

http://www.dailydot.com/geek/hugo-award-nominees-sad-puppies/

And yes, they did choose that name for themselves.

I was about to ask.

http://www.icshi.net/sevagram/images/other/john-c-wright.jpg

Sad Puppy favourite John C. Wright, earlier today

classic m'lady from wright there - textbook form and poise, 10/10

in case anyone didn't read it linked from the daily dot piece, wright's thinkpiece on the syfy channel and 'homosex activists' is amazing/awful:

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d17/starkeymonster/johncwright_gaypanic.jpg

what a rancid choad

jesus fuck

welp now i know about sad puppies

i spose it makes sense so much of gaming's troublesome politics are pretty much handed down from sci-fi/fantasy/comic books anyway

"homosex advocates"

"handed parallel" more like

Handed parallel? Idgi

i think forks is saying it's not "handed down" so much as they're on the same level, the sf/f and vg chuds are kinda pooping back & forth forever

Oh I didn't mean now I mean the larger "nerd culture" from which video games evolved out of has always has problematic elements historically

i basically think they're basically the same guy but one has a wizard cloak, one has a 1/64 scale lego deathstar and one has a realdoll

obligatory #not-all-nerds note of course

tbh I think it's just any culture that is or has become male-dominated

I think I had a long ranty bit on this thread or another about how, as a medium becomes more mainstream or interesting or profitable it becomes more colonized by men who consciously push women out. Like these pissbabies try to pretend video games have always been misogynistic shitfests but there are obvious counterexamples they don't want to acknowledge because it was before their hegemony came into play

Blaming the "mainstream" feels like a way of letting a whole bunch of ppl off the hook, also the core of gamergate isn't CoD fans it's like pissed chronotrigger dudes w anime twitpics.

that's a good that was lost on me before; the fratty guys who play CoD are gonna largely end up with women in stable relationships, but the pissed chronotrigger dudes, who knows

Did those dudes exist when Chrono Trigger came out, though? Maybe they were just as misogynist and shitty, but they didn't have a social platform to pretend their views were the same as the people creating games.

I guess what I mean is that their personal views were irrelevant because there wasn't a community. I guess by "mainstream" I mean "public dialogue" where they could assert their supposed norms.

tbf the fps dudes are still spewing the most toxic shit imaginable at each other in their shooters

i don't understand people over the age of twentyone who still play FPS games and CoD especially

They absolutely existed in some capacity when CT came out. I probably fit the bill at the time (to an extent, I don't think I could be cruel like these types but bear w/ me). The difference is, I wasn't weaponized. I was just a dumb awkward teen who "didn't understand girls" or whatever. But I was perfectly polite to them on the fanfic website I wrote on & on IRC & etc. because (a) nobody was telling me feminists wanted to take it away, (b) people weren't as easy to internet stalk, (c) there wasn't a constant feedback loop of drama and information like twitter which virtually emulates obsession & trains it into people i think

xxp

it's easier on the hands to do so on console than PC

everyone I know who's an old complains about playing fps games on pc

Will is right, I thought myself fairly even-handed but I definitely thought of women as incomprehensible at some level and believed a lot of weird misogynist thing just for the fact of not having a very diverse friend group and being pretty insulated

i realized yesterday that when i was 17, the internet was glowing green CRT monitors and IRC and it wasn't until I was 19 that Netscape and "the information superhighway" became a real thing so i may be the absolute last generation to escape the influence of the web on my teens. Old enough to have ducked a bullet, young enough to understand what came after

don't blame Chrono Trigger guyz ;_;

do we need a chrono trigger warning itt?

I think I managed to dodge that bullet too, even though by the time we had a PC w/ web capabilities Netscape was already available... but it wasn't until I was 15 or so that the forced moderation of 30 hrs/month for the whole family of internet was no longer a thing. my brother is 8y my junior & while I think he's an ok guy (prob closer to the tumblr team than the 4chan team in the coming internet civil war) he absolutely grew up with infinite internet & easy-access cultural microculture & it shows kinda in the way he acts.

xp chrono trigger is not a cause, merely a milestone

xxp ha

i realized yesterday that when i was 17, the internet was glowing green CRT monitors and IRC and it wasn't until I was 19 that Netscape and "the information superhighway" became a real thing

there were colour monitors before 1992 iirc

Yeah but if you use BBS terminal software it was command line stuff anyways.

i think the chrono trigger warning is a gzeus SPINAL FUNCTION reference to this classic opening post
I just played Chrono Trigger for over an hour.

my first exposure to using the internet was my freshman year of college on b+w monitors in the "computer lab" which was thirty pcs in a basement
i did light flirting with a stranger from australia and it BLEW MY MIND
i cannot imagine what growing up with the contemporary web must do to the mind of the average teenager. i would've gone completely insane.

i miss that xtranormal video

http://xtranormal.com/watch/545351/wimps
sadface

tbh for my teenage kids the "contemporary web" just means minecraft videos on youtube and email to friends. also maybe naked people but that's not really for me to know

For kids younger than a certain age, the internet is completely obscured by applications and there's no real web access, yeah

Did those dudes exist when Chrono Trigger came out, though?

Probably not to the same degree tbh, but I feel like Chrono Trigger as a "thing"/classic is as much due to its enshrinement since emulation and widespread Internet. I mean most of the people with Chrono Trigger icons presumably did not play it on a physical SNES/Super Famicom, right? Not that I blame Chrono Trigger or emulators for anything, but there's definitely some "board culture" thing for which avatars taken from emulated 16-bit classix is about as appropriate a shorthand as any other.

if my implied point wasn't clear above, whatever else the internet did it also gave agency to shared bad behavior framed around games/sci-fi/sharpies/whatevs