karl have u considered that maybe the mountain is us
*stares vacantly into middle distance*
― your skeleton is ready to hatch (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 29 January 2018 15:21 (six years ago) link
Haha, yeah right after posting that I progressed a bit more and there was a nice conversation about the mountain. Now I know that the mountain is Taum Sauk Mountain, in Missouri.
― Karl Malone, Monday, 29 January 2018 15:28 (six years ago) link
i'm about to dive back in for the ...6th chapter? not sure what i'm up to. for some reason this is more of a 2-3 hours at a time kind of game for me. i'm playing dark souls 3, too, and it's interesting to go back and forth between the two styles of YOU DIED. the dark souls version can be more heartbreaking (and hard to bounce back from) when the tough part is a boss fight that takes a couple minutes to reach in the first place. it's nice in Celeste to just regenerate in the same spot and give it another shot a second or two later. so far i haven't hit any rooms that take longer than 5 minutes or so to get through, and a lot of them i'm able to just push my way through first time on some sort of crazy intuitive hellride like ciderpress mentioned above:
the chase/boss sequences are really intense but i found myself cruising through stretches of them purely on the instincts that the game had provided me through the design of the levels leading up to them. very cool.
ps sleepingbag i just noticed "ad roominum" in your post above, lol
― Karl Malone, Monday, 29 January 2018 16:56 (six years ago) link
https://www.reddit.com/r/NintendoSwitch/comments/7tuubc/hey_were_the_dev_team_behind_celeste_ask_us/
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 29 January 2018 21:11 (six years ago) link
wow. just made it to the end! i finished in just a touch under 11 hours
there's a certain kind of fun to be had with the kinds of AAA games that have enormous sandbox areas and a million sidequests in addition to the main storyline. but i feel like the end state those kinds of games lead to is exhaustion. you tackle as many sidequests as you can until you've had enough, then quit or take on the final mission. after all that work and time and effort (and some fun, sometimes), you just kind of stick a fork in it.
NOT SO with celeste. jfc, the end game amps up the intensity (not necessarily the difficulty) so much it's unbelievable! there is a boss showdown that is just O_O. there's all sorts of stuff to do and go back to. i haven't done any of the b-sides.
i can think of only two criticisms for this game.1) it makes my thumb hurt2) i wish it had a simple map showing which rooms you've visited and their entrances/exits
that's it. wow. *howls at the moon*
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 02:38 (six years ago) link
just read this short little interview here: http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2018/01/feature_conquering_the_indie_mountain_with_celeste_creator_matt_makes_games
What does the future hold for Celeste?Hopefully, a game that people remember and come back to fondly. I don't think we have any plans to create a sequel to Celeste - it really feels like we told the story we wanted to tell.
Hopefully, a game that people remember and come back to fondly. I don't think we have any plans to create a sequel to Celeste - it really feels like we told the story we wanted to tell.
fuck yeah, that's what i'm talking about. make a perfect game, then drop the mic and go to the next one
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 03:51 (six years ago) link
https://www.instagram.com/TheoUnderStars/
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 06:34 (six years ago) link
Madeleine. Celeste. Coincidence in a game about time and memory, or are there any -or any more obvious - proust references?
― thomasintrouble, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 08:46 (six years ago) link
Wondering whether to buy this - is it fun, or is it too twitchy/tense to count as relaxing?
I've just been replaying 10,000,000 (not a platform game) but that's about as breakneck as I can handle a modern game before I stop finding it fun
― Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 16:26 (six years ago) link
As I observed, it's weirdly chill, almost zen-like, despite being so stressful. Context counts, I guess?
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 16:33 (six years ago) link
It makes my hands sweat
It is really unbelievable how often you die on this game. And crazy that I'll pass a room first try, and then take twenty tries on my next run through it
― flamboyant goon tie included, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 18:48 (six years ago) link
the rooms are small enough and the reset times after death so quick that its not stressful really, and you feel satisfied after finally figuring out a room
― jamiesummerz, Wednesday, 31 January 2018 14:25 (six years ago) link
i was feeling really good about trying to 100% the game. i went back and got all the strawberries for chapters 1 and 2, completed their b-sides, recorded 0 death runthroughs (2:35 and 3:31 respectively)
but shiiiit the difficulty does ramp up a bit for chapter 3. i managed to find all the strawberries but i'm not sure i'll ever be able to do a 0 death run (which is important to me for some reason)
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 1 February 2018 01:25 (six years ago) link
Wow that's crazy
I got to the windy level and my internal rating for this game dropped from a 10/10 to an 8/10
Windy level can go fuck itself
― flamboyant goon tie included, Thursday, 1 February 2018 03:47 (six years ago) link
I stopped even thinking about the strawberries on this level
― flamboyant goon tie included, Thursday, 1 February 2018 03:48 (six years ago) link
windy level was my least favorite, but chapter 5 is better. and then everything to the end is just O_O (i thought)
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 1 February 2018 03:57 (six years ago) link
You guys are nuts. I hadn't really touched it since the day I bought it, but was playing tonight and there was one screen on chapter 1 - yes, near the very beginning - that was kicking my ass so hard I was convinced my controller was broken and was even googling known issues. Eventually I found someone on youtube, and yeah, I was literally never going to figure out this screen, but the dude's play did help me realize what I was doing wrong. For some reason either I didn't know or had forgotten that you can only dash once before landing on ground, which means you can only *jump* off things you're clinging to, not *dash* off them (right?). However, you can just jump into the void and *then* dash. Just once, though, unless you get one of those recharging things.
Anyway, I'm old and my thumbs hurt.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 1 February 2018 03:58 (six years ago) link
"I'm old and my thumbs hurt" is what how this game is meant to make you feel
Anybody I've shown it to under 30 is like "lol you are old, we don't know how to play this kind of shit"
― flamboyant goon tie included, Thursday, 1 February 2018 04:35 (six years ago) link
i finally figured out how to stream on twitch from my ps4 (i had weird microphone issues), so i'm going to work on the chapter 3 b-side in a sec. or start to figure out how to do it quickly without dying
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 1 February 2018 04:35 (six years ago) link
in case anyone is incredibly bored tonight. i'm all by myself tonight and my dog has already been taken out, so this is going to be a wednesday night epiiiic stream
https://www.twitch.tv/weinventyou
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 1 February 2018 04:43 (six years ago) link
Watched for a little while. Those levels look pretty hard!
― DJI, Thursday, 1 February 2018 04:58 (six years ago) link
they are intensely hard! room 4 of ch. 3 b-side now
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 1 February 2018 04:58 (six years ago) link
ok WHOA, say what you want about the windy level, but the crystal heart for it is the beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeest of all time. i have never thought so highly of a collectible.
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 1 February 2018 07:40 (six years ago) link
only like four strawberries in but this is very nice
― reggae mike love (polyphonic), Thursday, 1 February 2018 08:13 (six years ago) link
Karl, I watched yr videos (I've never watched Twitch before!), that looks intense
I think I may regrettably have to accept that, if I struggled to even beat the first boss on Shovel Knight, Celeste may not be the Game For Me
― Chuck_Tatum, Thursday, 1 February 2018 14:04 (six years ago) link
Yeah Karl has cured me of my thirst for this :/
― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 1 February 2018 14:16 (six years ago) link
Oh shit
I saw that crystal heart (vanilla run through) but I didn't know how to jump up to it and gave up
Whoops?
― flamboyant goon tie included, Thursday, 1 February 2018 14:45 (six years ago) link
fwiw the vanilla levels are not nearly as hard as the ones karl is playing there
― ciderpress, Thursday, 1 February 2018 14:57 (six years ago) link
Oh yeah, I was mainly working on the chapter 3 b-side and that was intense. It took about 500-600 deaths to get through!Andrew I feel bad if I ruined it for you! ciderpress is right about the vanilla game not being nearly so hard. The first chapter in particular is a gem of level design, gradually teaching the skills of the game to newcomers. If I have time later tonight I’d be happy to do a leisurely chapter one strawberry hunt! I’ll let y’all know here if I do.
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 1 February 2018 15:15 (six years ago) link
fgtiLet’s just say that to get to it you have to think about the game’s influences. I couldn’t believe it when it actually worked!
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 1 February 2018 15:17 (six years ago) link
No I get that - I am a 100%er, so I have to think about these before comitting (and anyway I have a looong backlist even in just this genre - re-united with my Wii-U after a while and I've still got Mario Galaxy 2 let alone the two Wii-U Marios and the Rayman).
― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 1 February 2018 15:24 (six years ago) link
oh, i gotcha. i am generally not a 100%er. i end up quitting most games long before i reach the end, let alone all the collectibles. i think i'm gonna give 100% a shot on this game a shot, but it's going to be rough.
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 1 February 2018 15:40 (six years ago) link
But they're still really hard! A lot harder than Shovel Knight.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 1 February 2018 15:49 (six years ago) link
Fuck I just saw a walkthrough and I literally thought "SMB3" when I saw that white box and should've tried that very thing
― flamboyant goon tie included, Thursday, 1 February 2018 16:34 (six years ago) link
Godammit this game is very clever and good
Beat chapter 8 last night, some great new mechanics in that level
Karl when will u stream again
― direct to consumer online mattress brand (silby), Wednesday, 7 February 2018 16:36 (six years ago) link
oh man, i still haven't even gotten access to chapter 8! i only have 2 of the crystal hearts.
i might actually have a go this afternoon! so far i have all the strawberries in the first 4 chapters, and the b-sides for the first 3. working on the b-side for the 4th. i was also able to record zero-death runs for the first three chapters, but i'm not sure if i'll ever be able to do it for chapter 4. shit is hard.
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 7 February 2018 16:39 (six years ago) link
on a related note, the music for the 4th chapter b-side is my favorite of the game so far.
if i had more energy and willpower and research and writing abilities i would write an enormous essay on endlessly looping music, including stuff like hold music for insurance companies but primarily as it's used in video games. the ch. 4 b-side theme is not the best example of what i'm thinking because it is more of just a really long kickass song with identifiable movements that is made to seamlessly loop. but sometimes in other games i'll enter the pause menu, or the title screen, and spend some time appreciating the really thoughtful loop that someone has created for the purpose. it is it's own genre, i think, and it deserves more recognition.
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 7 February 2018 16:44 (six years ago) link
fyi after you complete all the regular levels and b sides you unlock golden strawberries which you get from deathless runs, idk if they're retroactive so you might want to hold off on those
― ciderpress, Wednesday, 7 February 2018 16:45 (six years ago) link
oh shit, thank you! i will hold off on attempting deathless runs for the rest of the chapters, then.
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 7 February 2018 16:47 (six years ago) link
are you working on 100% completing the game ciderpress? how far are you?
I'm not going for 100% anytime soon, haven't finished the b sides yet
― ciderpress, Wednesday, 7 February 2018 16:48 (six years ago) link
Karl what's your twitch name?
I don't have the means to stream myself, but if I could i'd totally kick the shit out of link to the past for y'all
― Evan, Wednesday, 7 February 2018 16:51 (six years ago) link
i am weinventyou on twitch
and yeah, that would be awesome! i have gotten 3/4 of the way through LTTP so many times, but never beaten it ;_;
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 7 February 2018 16:55 (six years ago) link
evan if you ever have questions about the streaming stuff, just let me know. i am very much an amateur but i struggled through a lot of technical issues when i first started and might be able to point you in the right direction at least.
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 7 February 2018 16:56 (six years ago) link
streaming pc games is simple, i have no clue how to stream from a switch though
― ciderpress, Wednesday, 7 February 2018 17:02 (six years ago) link
i assume you need a video card that has hdmi in, which mine doesn't
― ciderpress, Wednesday, 7 February 2018 17:04 (six years ago) link
at least on ps4, streaming is built into it - i just hit the share button, connect it to my twitch, and i'm pretty much ready to go. not sure about switch > twitch, though
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 7 February 2018 17:14 (six years ago) link
streaming pc games is simple
i found streaming mac games to be not nearly as simple as i thought it would be, although i am also a bumbling fool in general. my biggest issue was with sound, specifically with routing the correct audio channels to the stream while still being able to hear everything locally. it sounds like it would be easy but for me it involved a combo of OBS, wavtap, soundflower, and multi-output settings in my sound preferences
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 7 February 2018 17:20 (six years ago) link
ah I only have experience with windows that must be it
― ciderpress, Wednesday, 7 February 2018 17:22 (six years ago) link
And there are C-Sides? Curious how the difficulty stacks up against Chapter 9, which I am struggling with but chipping away at. Undeniably great platformer, really keeps me coming back.
― circa1916, Thursday, 26 December 2019 03:16 (four years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sJkEWlyk74
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 15 June 2020 19:09 (four years ago) link
https://www.smwcentral.net/?p=viewthread&t=100323
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 15 June 2020 19:10 (four years ago) link
I’m on chapter 2 of this and it’s GREAT, actual sweaty palms stuff, got both bsides but few strawberries, but sometimes you just can’t be fucked, you know?
― scampos mentis (gyac), Tuesday, 16 June 2020 10:06 (four years ago) link
likewise hooked on this, so many indelible touches around pretty flawless level design. 100% strawberries so far
― devvvine, Tuesday, 16 June 2020 16:13 (four years ago) link
Got back into playing this. Wasn't 100% feeling this but now I've got to Oshiro's hotel, I'm loving it. However, I have a bad habit of getting really far, then rage quitting and forgetting to save my game! All the same, it's wonderful how you can spend ages and ages and ages simply trying to get past the first obstacle on a screen, and then suddenly it comes so naturally you can do the whole thing in one fluid motion. Reminds me of learning a tricky piece on an instrument.
― doorstep jetski (dog latin), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 12:26 (four years ago) link
I cannot be bothered with most strawberries though
Yeah it's a satisfying feeling, like you just gained a new skill in life, have you tried 1001 Spikes? It's full of that sort of experience. Dick rippingly frustrating mind.
― Two Meter Peter (Ste), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 12:29 (four years ago) link
Oh man the strawberries in the hotel are what put me off the game!
― AxoLOLtl (Leee), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 17:54 (four years ago) link
Also I do not understand B-sides, and have only found one so far.
b-sides unlock another version of that level that is EVEN HARDER!
(there's also c-sides)
― time is running out to pitch in $5 (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 18:19 (four years ago) link
:D strawberries are my favorite part of the game. they're totally optional! they're similar to modern day marios where every level has a handful of yoshi coins that really are more just for completionists
― time is running out to pitch in $5 (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 18:20 (four years ago) link
also LOVE the strawberries. i had to get every last one. they are optional and don’t amount to much in the end but encourage you to explore and really get familiar with each stage.
i tapped out on the c-sides a while ago and now i feel old and out of shape. booted up the new DLC from earlier this year and that was a rude awakening to be sure.
― (⊙_⊙?) (original bgm), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 18:33 (four years ago) link
I have been really enjoying this. Mostly just picking it up, clearing 1–3 screens, then saving and putting it back down. A great way to scratch that video game itch with my short attention span.
― trapped out the barndo (crüt), Friday, 11 September 2020 00:52 (four years ago) link
Love it, been stuck in mirror temple for about a year now
― Chuck_Tatum, Friday, 11 September 2020 09:01 (four years ago) link
I whizzed through a whole bunch of this a few weeks ago but gave up around the windy levels
― Leighton Buzzword (dog latin), Friday, 11 September 2020 11:46 (four years ago) link
picked this back up and are being eaten by a fish in the mirror level. gonna carry on tomorrow when my red raw thumb recovers.
fuck a s/berry tho, I've never been a completionist. just wanna see how Madeline's story ends.
also, it turns out streaming on twitch concentrates my mind and gives me sufficient gee-up to persevere.
― I have no couch and I must stream (NotEnough), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 23:51 (three years ago) link
this game is fkn tough
― I Am The Lionel Richies (dog latin), Wednesday, 27 January 2021 00:44 (three years ago) link
just started a game called Olija, which is a bit like Celeste meets Castlevania but with more of a puzzle element than fast-twitch action. Feeling it so far!
― Party With A Jagger Ban (dog latin), Tuesday, 9 February 2021 22:08 (three years ago) link
started playing this today and uh it says i died 341 times on the hotel level. my thumb hurts so much.
― josh az (2011nostalgia), Sunday, 14 February 2021 05:00 (three years ago) link
oh my god the fucking mirror level
― josh az (2011nostalgia), Wednesday, 17 February 2021 08:17 (three years ago) link
i gave up on the wind levels. great game but life is too short
― Party With A Jagger Ban (dog latin), Wednesday, 17 February 2021 14:00 (three years ago) link
Turn on assist mode! The end of the game is so nice 😭
― Canon in Deez (silby), Wednesday, 17 February 2021 16:19 (three years ago) link
Turn on assist mode!
^^^
also relevant for people struggling with hades
― Zach_TBD (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 17 February 2021 18:47 (three years ago) link
Celeste's dialogue design is the #1 most-asked-about topic when it comes to the game's sound. I figured I'd share some of how we went about creating it. pic.twitter.com/HVpRdvlfAD— Kevin Regamey (@regameyk) July 17, 2021
― reggae mike love (polyphonic), Tuesday, 20 July 2021 19:09 (three years ago) link
That's neat. I personally like the emotive gibberish of "Hollow Knight."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekz4-SNVJjU
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 23 July 2021 18:40 (three years ago) link
bafanada
― Yours in Sorrow, A Schoolboy: (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 24 July 2021 22:15 (three years ago) link
another celeste mario ("hastily made with levels designed within two months"), nice humblebrag:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbQmiDDAx3A
― Kate (rushomancy), Wednesday, 16 August 2023 18:14 (one year ago) link
Now in 3 dimensions!
https://maddymakesgamesinc.itch.io/celeste64
― feed me with your chips (zchyrs), Thursday, 15 February 2024 01:18 (seven months ago) link
Looks sick!
― H.P, Thursday, 15 February 2024 12:24 (seven months ago) link