Celeste! ♫ the best a game can get ♫

lol, yeah my thumb hurts as well. i tried the analog stick but i just can't control it as well as the d-pad.

nice job on persevering through the first chapter! believe it or not, the mechanics that you learn in that first chapter will carry you through the entire game. each chapter might add a new element to the mix, but really it's just a matter of applying the basic moves again and again (albeit in more and more tense situations).

i am going to dive back into ch. 5 in a bit - found all the strawberries, but i just need to find the tape and then *gulp* beat the b-side

I’m all analog stick on this, definitely took some training to be able to nail the diagonals consistently but I’m much worse at diagonal inputs on a dpad

PHEW. just finished the b-side of chapter 5. i didn't like the music for it! bummer. it reminds me of how much it adds to the game when it's good (which is most of the time)

ciderpress or silby or fgti or anyone else - can you pull off anything in this video?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fzcnDIpuZs

i can't

I just watched you beat that b-side. Thank god for fast forward. 100% otm about the music in that stage, it’s really obtrusive.

yeah, it was brutal. 667 deaths, iirc!

in general, i really like searching for all the strawberries, finding the b-sides, and the crystal hearts. the completion of the actual b-sides has been a bit more agonizing than fun. but fuck, i gotta do it

I can pull off the dash-cancel into the jump, you can do a similar thing in Towerfall. I didn’t know about the variations where you hold down and dash or dash down-diagonal and then do a boosted jump so you can have your dash back in midair.

ooh i wanna try those but unfortunately i am in a room in ch. 3 b-side that has no navigable room to jump around in and is also impossible >;(

this game is so sweet tho. i don't know if i'm necessarily still not awful at it but i've def gotten better at acting within the increments of time the game wants you to act within. i beat the main storyline in about 11hrs & got to/thru chap 8, now going back for all the everythings which i am never tempted to do in any game.

eventually settled on analog stick only, much like while playing fifa i occasionally think 'i swear i wasn't pushing in that direction' immediately after my player character careens off someway, but overall it feels a little better than d pad

I... I can't perfect world one. I have tried for an hour.

ah god I've slowed down to the rate of about 30 minutes per screen now. this is gonna go on forever.

^^^^ it took me at least 15 minutes to do 90% of the screens in the game. BUT i never got to one that i couldn't beat in a reasonable amount of time UNTIL this stupid room on b-side 3 which i've been stuck on for days

http://i63.tinypic.com/wijymh.gif

i have no idea how to do this and i've watched 3 different ppl beat it in vods. apparently you need to jump toward the very tops of all the walls so you don't waste stamina jumping/climbing up and down. but i can't really do that, i've tried hundreds of times and can't just land right on the exact spots. so i have to climb a little, and then run out of stamina right at the end. even with no stamina i might be able to make the last jump from the right side of the right upper ledge onto the right side of the one below it and then immediately off to the right and in, but... hasn't happened yet.

also i was hoping that this was near the end of the level but in the speedrun vid i clicked it turns out this is like 6 minutes into a 35 min video o_o

that said, still somehow i find the challenge of this game inviting. i don't understand why at all. i should have thrown the switch out the window ten times by now.

yikes i can see the path through there but that looks v hard to execute

beat ittttttt awwwwww yeah

the next cpl rooms were insultingly easy after that shit. also right away in the next room got that hyper-dash-double-jump thing going 1st try. i am celeste. i am the mountain.

prolly about +500 deaths in that one room tho

Loving Chapter 2. Those celestrial dash blobs are lots of fun.

Celestrial? Celestial!

The fuck? Celestrial is not even a word, why would autocorrect correct to that?

okeydokey, i have enough b-side hearts to go for the core. i'm gonna give it a try now if you want to watch me die hundreds of times
https://www.twitch.tv/weinventyou

Cleared 3B! Tried to log a full clear of chapter 1 but I missed a strawberry somewhere.

3B is the woooooist

phew, the core was hard but not impossible. a little bit over an hour, and only 367 deaths! i've seen worse

watching that was v stressful btw

I am nowhere near where some of you are at, in skill or achievement, but one of the many things I increasingly like about this game is how it pretty much encourages you to die again and again, directing you in the end to try (sometimes in desperation) to do the craziest, blind jump off a cliff thing, even though you've half suspected from the start that that's exactly what you were supposed to do in the first place.

one of the many qualities it shares with SMB3 is that you end up exploring every reachable bit of every screen, partly to look for secrets but also just to kind of check it out. it's a pleasant feeling.

This game keeps crashing my ancient PS4. :( Still fun tho

Not exactly struggling but still a little annoyed by what must be the home stretch of chapter 2, getting chased by all the shadow versions of me. I know I can beat it, it just doesn't give you much time to think, and (no joke) I think I now have a blister forming on my left thumb.

yep, you're close! the shadows are terrifying at first, but they get a lot easier after several million deaths learning a reliable path through each screen that doesn't ever double-back on itself, if that makes sense

i have 2 b-sides left, i think. i might tackle one of them in just a bit *gulp*

Huh, OK, that wasn't that bad. But here's the thing: I just completed chapter 2 with 2/3rds fewer deaths than chapter 1 and I took an hour less to do it. Was it easier or ... am I getting better?

probably the latter, i certainly did. the rest of the chapters are longer though so don't expect a downward curve

jfc the 5th screen of the ch 6 b-side is INSANE

or at least i was insanely bad at it

I was curious so I watched some youtube clip of some dude doing that chapter, and man ... that's all so crazy.

yeah, i just took a breather/gave up a minute ago. i got to the 6th or 7th screen in and my thumb was throbbing with pain. i'll try it again in a few days!

Was thinking how much more maddening this game would be with a time limit per screen.

i got through the hotel whew

game is already getting shine from speedrunners.

https://www.speedrun.com/Celeste

Any% WR (goes from new game to seeing your game time and strawberry score in the epilogue) as of this moment is 36m 52s 397ms

How do those dudes get those super-long dashes?

Also, after all this time I still can't tell: can you bounce off the spikes?

i had the same revelation. I think you can bounce off the edge of a spiked platform?

you can grab that edge, so yeah: you can prob leap off it too. gotta be pretty exact of course.

the super-long dashes (and other moves) are explained in this video, sort of

i still don't know the exact deal with the spikes. i think it's just using a dash *just* before hitting the spikes, combined with using one of the advanced jumping moves that seems to recharge your dash at the same time that jump (giving you an extra dash, in effect)

I saw that advanced movement tutorial and it might as well be in a different language talking about a different game. I just can't follow it because he speeds ahead so quickly and is constantly moving around instead of just patiently demonstrating what he is doing and what that does.

the spikes only kill you if you;'re moving in their direction. if you move orthogonal to them you can touch them and possibly wall jump off them. that's my understanding at least

I wanted to become an orthogonalist in college but i ended up moving into liberal arts

this game is otherwise p ok but games with hundreds of lines of dialogue explaining things that could have been done in dumbshow are dud dud dud

Eh, I've liked that stuff so far. Just stuff you bump into to keep you company and break up the stress.

I do agree that games rely a little too much on the " ... " dialogue.

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