Celeste! ♫ the best a game can get ♫

jfc the 5th screen of the ch 6 b-side is INSANE

or at least i was insanely bad at it

I was curious so I watched some youtube clip of some dude doing that chapter, and man ... that's all so crazy.

yeah, i just took a breather/gave up a minute ago. i got to the 6th or 7th screen in and my thumb was throbbing with pain. i'll try it again in a few days!

Was thinking how much more maddening this game would be with a time limit per screen.

i got through the hotel whew

game is already getting shine from speedrunners.

https://www.speedrun.com/Celeste

Any% WR (goes from new game to seeing your game time and strawberry score in the epilogue) as of this moment is 36m 52s 397ms

How do those dudes get those super-long dashes?

Also, after all this time I still can't tell: can you bounce off the spikes?

i had the same revelation. I think you can bounce off the edge of a spiked platform?

you can grab that edge, so yeah: you can prob leap off it too. gotta be pretty exact of course.

the super-long dashes (and other moves) are explained in this video, sort of

i still don't know the exact deal with the spikes. i think it's just using a dash *just* before hitting the spikes, combined with using one of the advanced jumping moves that seems to recharge your dash at the same time that jump (giving you an extra dash, in effect)

I saw that advanced movement tutorial and it might as well be in a different language talking about a different game. I just can't follow it because he speeds ahead so quickly and is constantly moving around instead of just patiently demonstrating what he is doing and what that does.

the spikes only kill you if you;'re moving in their direction. if you move orthogonal to them you can touch them and possibly wall jump off them. that's my understanding at least

I wanted to become an orthogonalist in college but i ended up moving into liberal arts

this game is otherwise p ok but games with hundreds of lines of dialogue explaining things that could have been done in dumbshow are dud dud dud

Eh, I've liked that stuff so far. Just stuff you bump into to keep you company and break up the stress.

I do agree that games rely a little too much on the " ... " dialogue.

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https://i.imgur.com/rntEc3a.jpg

lmao

this game is putting callouses on my thumb

the ch 6 b-side is insanely difficult, for me at least

kinda obvious idea here but after listening to the terrible ch 6 b-side music for 45 minutes, i finally realized that i could just turn it off and leave the other SFX on. huge improvement, at least for that chapter

i'm on that one too! getting through it at an ok pace i guess compared to b-3 which was still the most frustrating part of the game for me, but yeah some rooms seem pretty ridiculous until you work out all the microtimings within these mostly huge open spaces. the music is nice! it def sounds different from the rest of the soundtrack and most of the remixes, but it's sweet, kind of reminiscent of some sonic cd music + there's a synth burbling part which pops up that sounds like this mahavishnu song which i mentioned i liked just the other day

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLqAcaSXglk

soundtrack to this game is absolutely amazing on the whole, though. prob my fav game soundtrack since fez.

As soon as I saw the one weird, out-of-place white Mario 3 block I was so excited because I knew just what to do!

so satisfying

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZoQ9a7oPvo&feature=youtu.be

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZoQ9a7oPvo&feature=youtu.be

goddamit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZoQ9a7oPvo

i do appreciate how this game allows me to enact the role of madeline whereas in actuality i am oshiro the hotel owner

I am definitely badeline

i'm almost through all the b-sides, on chap 8 now. was def struggling on a lot of them but going through the chap 7 summit b-side tightened me up noticably, it's a super fun level because so much of it seems rough or impossible at first but by the end you're just 2x-dashing elegantly through all these complex spaces. l can't believe i was able to execute all this:

#NintendoSwitch pic.twitter.com/pFXmu1s2nH

— kjsdfhglasbfjd (@kjsdfhglasbfjd1) February 22, 2018

but it didn't even take that long, maybe 20-25 minutes to figure all that out and execute it. not that it wasn't v difficult but the level and the whole game up until that point leads you into it so gradually that you can incorporate the new things it's asking you to do into what you're already doing naturally enough.

really love this game! beautiful design, super fun to play. one of my favs ever.

I am no hardcore gamer. I am barely a gamer. So Celeste has been a real struggle - mostly fun, but still frustrating. I get stuck on a level (screen) that takes me 30 minutes, finally make a breakthrough, and then get to the next screen which is just as challenging. That's ok, in that it's rewarding to finally get through something, but today it sort of gave me a headache and every time I saw a strawberry I basically though, fuck you, strawberry, I have enough on my plate.

yeah, it's definitely a kind of advanced game. i'm literally resting a few days to let my thumb heal!

On the other hand (no pun intended), I haven't resorted to assist mode yet. Because what would be the point? I think psychologically this is getting me ready for Dark Souls, even though there are lots of questions re: the port's game play on the Switch.

This is harder than Dark Souls, imo

i find dark souls to be more difficult, tbh. when i last play DS3 i was stuck on a boss that i had already spent more than an hour on. so far i haven't gotten stuck on a screen in celeste for more than 30 minutes, although i'm veering close to that pretty frequently in chapter 7-B

It's probably just me! The very precise, exact motions this game demands are tougher for me, while the big 3D world in DS allows for more degrees of freedom--my "chicken shit" style of play works really well in that context, haha

Yeah, this game is just so unforgiving. The fact that it can take half an hour to figure out how to move a few inches over the course of just a couple of seconds ... you just got to do it, and even then, sometimes it's a wonder it gets done!

I think it’s a testament to this game’s quality that it seems like people across a huge range of natural skill with it are sticking with the game to the end of the story.

The design is really smart, because even if you're going to die a lot, again and again, over and over, it's fast and it's fair. It's not like you've died because some randomized swipe of a demon's tail takes out your last sliver of health of whatever.

i just finished my first playthrough. i didn't go out of my way to find strawberries but if i ran into one and thought i could pick it up i did so i ended up w/ 68. i also found one b-tape and one diamond. you guys that are going through all the b-sides - did you find them naturally or look them up? i'm trying to decide if it's worth it to find them myself or if i should just spoil it.

found a few naturally, had to look one up, and ran across an answer to another one on accident while watching someone's video on another topic.

The tapes I found some the first time through, the rest hunting based on the hint in the checkpoint selection when replaying the level. I needed some kind of hint for all the blue hearts I’ve gotten so far.

The tapes are easy to find compared to the blue hearts, if you start looking for out of the way strawberries you will find your way to the tapes too

i didn't realize until recently that there's more stuff AFTER the b-sides! like, a lot more. i will never 100% this game

Just watched a youtube guy beat a level that's killed me easily a hundred times on his first try, like it was no big deal.

Yeah, that's the worst.

Despite all my struggle I've found maybe 3 b-side cassettes so far, somehow.