the super-long dashes (and other moves) are explained in this video, sort of
i still don't know the exact deal with the spikes. i think it's just using a dash *just* before hitting the spikes, combined with using one of the advanced jumping moves that seems to recharge your dash at the same time that jump (giving you an extra dash, in effect)
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 14 February 2018 20:56 (six years ago) link
I saw that advanced movement tutorial and it might as well be in a different language talking about a different game. I just can't follow it because he speeds ahead so quickly and is constantly moving around instead of just patiently demonstrating what he is doing and what that does.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 14 February 2018 21:13 (six years ago) link
the spikes only kill you if you;'re moving in their direction. if you move orthogonal to them you can touch them and possibly wall jump off them. that's my understanding at least
― ciderpress, Thursday, 15 February 2018 03:04 (six years ago) link
I wanted to become an orthogonalist in college but i ended up moving into liberal arts
― Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Thursday, 15 February 2018 03:43 (six years ago) link
this game is otherwise p ok but games with hundreds of lines of dialogue explaining things that could have been done in dumbshow are dud dud dud
― the ghost of tom, choad (thomp), Friday, 16 February 2018 09:07 (six years ago) link
Eh, I've liked that stuff so far. Just stuff you bump into to keep you company and break up the stress.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 16 February 2018 13:28 (six years ago) link
I do agree that games rely a little too much on the " ... " dialogue.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 16 February 2018 13:29 (six years ago) link
. . .
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 16 February 2018 18:03 (six years ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/rntEc3a.jpg
― i remember the corned beef of my childhood (Karl Malone), Friday, 16 February 2018 18:11 (six years ago) link
lmao
― flamboyant goon tie included, Friday, 16 February 2018 23:42 (six years ago) link
this game is putting callouses on my thumb
― Mordy, Sunday, 18 February 2018 03:17 (six years ago) link
the ch 6 b-side is insanely difficult, for me at least
― i remember the corned beef of my childhood (Karl Malone), Sunday, 18 February 2018 19:04 (six years ago) link
kinda obvious idea here but after listening to the terrible ch 6 b-side music for 45 minutes, i finally realized that i could just turn it off and leave the other SFX on. huge improvement, at least for that chapter
― i remember the corned beef of my childhood (Karl Malone), Sunday, 18 February 2018 19:19 (six years ago) link
i'm on that one too! getting through it at an ok pace i guess compared to b-3 which was still the most frustrating part of the game for me, but yeah some rooms seem pretty ridiculous until you work out all the microtimings within these mostly huge open spaces. the music is nice! it def sounds different from the rest of the soundtrack and most of the remixes, but it's sweet, kind of reminiscent of some sonic cd music + there's a synth burbling part which pops up that sounds like this mahavishnu song which i mentioned i liked just the other day
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLqAcaSXglk
― sleepingbag, Sunday, 18 February 2018 21:43 (six years ago) link
soundtrack to this game is absolutely amazing on the whole, though. prob my fav game soundtrack since fez.
― sleepingbag, Sunday, 18 February 2018 21:44 (six years ago) link
As soon as I saw the one weird, out-of-place white Mario 3 block I was so excited because I knew just what to do!
― Dan I., Monday, 19 February 2018 02:09 (six years ago) link
so satisfying
― i remember the corned beef of my childhood (Karl Malone), Monday, 19 February 2018 02:54 (six years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZoQ9a7oPvo&feature=youtu.be
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 19 February 2018 04:22 (six years ago) link
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 19 February 2018 04:23 (six years ago) link
goddamit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZoQ9a7oPvo
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 19 February 2018 04:24 (six years ago) link
i do appreciate how this game allows me to enact the role of madeline whereas in actuality i am oshiro the hotel owner
― sleepingbag, Tuesday, 20 February 2018 08:16 (six years ago) link
I am definitely badeline
― i remember the corned beef of my childhood (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 20 February 2018 15:02 (six years ago) link
i'm almost through all the b-sides, on chap 8 now. was def struggling on a lot of them but going through the chap 7 summit b-side tightened me up noticably, it's a super fun level because so much of it seems rough or impossible at first but by the end you're just 2x-dashing elegantly through all these complex spaces. l can't believe i was able to execute all this:
#NintendoSwitch pic.twitter.com/pFXmu1s2nH— kjsdfhglasbfjd (@kjsdfhglasbfjd1) February 22, 2018
but it didn't even take that long, maybe 20-25 minutes to figure all that out and execute it. not that it wasn't v difficult but the level and the whole game up until that point leads you into it so gradually that you can incorporate the new things it's asking you to do into what you're already doing naturally enough.
really love this game! beautiful design, super fun to play. one of my favs ever.
― sleepingbag, Thursday, 22 February 2018 08:59 (six years ago) link
I am no hardcore gamer. I am barely a gamer. So Celeste has been a real struggle - mostly fun, but still frustrating. I get stuck on a level (screen) that takes me 30 minutes, finally make a breakthrough, and then get to the next screen which is just as challenging. That's ok, in that it's rewarding to finally get through something, but today it sort of gave me a headache and every time I saw a strawberry I basically though, fuck you, strawberry, I have enough on my plate.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 22 February 2018 22:16 (six years ago) link
yeah, it's definitely a kind of advanced game. i'm literally resting a few days to let my thumb heal!
― i remember the corned beef of my childhood (Karl Malone), Thursday, 22 February 2018 22:48 (six years ago) link
On the other hand (no pun intended), I haven't resorted to assist mode yet. Because what would be the point? I think psychologically this is getting me ready for Dark Souls, even though there are lots of questions re: the port's game play on the Switch.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 22 February 2018 22:59 (six years ago) link
This is harder than Dark Souls, imo
― Dan I., Thursday, 22 February 2018 23:05 (six years ago) link
i find dark souls to be more difficult, tbh. when i last play DS3 i was stuck on a boss that i had already spent more than an hour on. so far i haven't gotten stuck on a screen in celeste for more than 30 minutes, although i'm veering close to that pretty frequently in chapter 7-B
― i remember the corned beef of my childhood (Karl Malone), Thursday, 22 February 2018 23:18 (six years ago) link
It's probably just me! The very precise, exact motions this game demands are tougher for me, while the big 3D world in DS allows for more degrees of freedom--my "chicken shit" style of play works really well in that context, haha
― Dan I., Friday, 23 February 2018 00:03 (six years ago) link
Yeah, this game is just so unforgiving. The fact that it can take half an hour to figure out how to move a few inches over the course of just a couple of seconds ... you just got to do it, and even then, sometimes it's a wonder it gets done!
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 23 February 2018 03:19 (six years ago) link
I think it’s a testament to this game’s quality that it seems like people across a huge range of natural skill with it are sticking with the game to the end of the story.
― direct to consumer online mattress brand (silby), Friday, 23 February 2018 03:59 (six years ago) link
The design is really smart, because even if you're going to die a lot, again and again, over and over, it's fast and it's fair. It's not like you've died because some randomized swipe of a demon's tail takes out your last sliver of health of whatever.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 23 February 2018 04:02 (six years ago) link
i just finished my first playthrough. i didn't go out of my way to find strawberries but if i ran into one and thought i could pick it up i did so i ended up w/ 68. i also found one b-tape and one diamond. you guys that are going through all the b-sides - did you find them naturally or look them up? i'm trying to decide if it's worth it to find them myself or if i should just spoil it.
― Mordy, Friday, 23 February 2018 04:46 (six years ago) link
found a few naturally, had to look one up, and ran across an answer to another one on accident while watching someone's video on another topic.
― i remember the corned beef of my childhood (Karl Malone), Friday, 23 February 2018 04:52 (six years ago) link
The tapes I found some the first time through, the rest hunting based on the hint in the checkpoint selection when replaying the level. I needed some kind of hint for all the blue hearts I’ve gotten so far.
― direct to consumer online mattress brand (silby), Friday, 23 February 2018 05:12 (six years ago) link
The tapes are easy to find compared to the blue hearts, if you start looking for out of the way strawberries you will find your way to the tapes too
― direct to consumer online mattress brand (silby), Friday, 23 February 2018 05:13 (six years ago) link
i didn't realize until recently that there's more stuff AFTER the b-sides! like, a lot more. i will never 100% this game
― i remember the corned beef of my childhood (Karl Malone), Friday, 23 February 2018 05:37 (six years ago) link
Just watched a youtube guy beat a level that's killed me easily a hundred times on his first try, like it was no big deal.
― Dan I., Friday, 23 February 2018 06:00 (six years ago) link
Yeah, that's the worst.
Despite all my struggle I've found maybe 3 b-side cassettes so far, somehow.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 23 February 2018 13:50 (six years ago) link
I'm slowly working my way through this. Chapter 6 is gorgeous. The way that going underwater affects the score is soo nice
― reggae mike love (polyphonic), Friday, 23 February 2018 20:24 (six years ago) link
i LOVE that. it feels genuinely refreshing to sit at the bottom of a pond after a difficult screen
― i remember the corned beef of my childhood (Karl Malone), Friday, 23 February 2018 20:28 (six years ago) link
I did the first three b sides and got all the strawberries and stuff for those normal levels. I got enough hearts to unlock the cave and damn I’m like two rooms in and I have no idea
― Mordy, Saturday, 24 February 2018 04:58 (six years ago) link
Mordy don’t you have a job and multiple small children and presumably average sleep requirements how are you banging through this so fast
― direct to consumer online mattress brand (silby), Saturday, 24 February 2018 05:04 (six years ago) link
My kids love watching my play :D also it really hasn’t taken so long I guess I’ve played a lot of games like this?
― Mordy, Saturday, 24 February 2018 05:17 (six years ago) link
Aww yay
― direct to consumer online mattress brand (silby), Saturday, 24 February 2018 05:34 (six years ago) link
I should be amazing at this game but I fucking suck at it
I finished the 3rd stage but I'm saving this game for a travel day
― flamboyant goon tie included, Saturday, 24 February 2018 14:59 (six years ago) link
i'm just about to start the summit chapter and i've only found 1 tape so far? wtf..
― scoff walker (diamonddave85), Saturday, 24 February 2018 17:05 (six years ago) link
they tend to be pretty out of the way
― ciderpress, Saturday, 24 February 2018 17:12 (six years ago) link
ZS was right tho that if you're just exploring exhaustively you'll eventually find them (or at least the first few i haven't gotten em all yet)
― Mordy, Saturday, 24 February 2018 17:21 (six years ago) link