Why is casual racism/sexism more accepted in video games than other forms of media (these days)?

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Ivy feels like a bit of a relic of a past’s mainstream, like lead paint or cocaine for toothaches.
Heh

i'm actually more surprised he even tried to defend it. why not just be shameless and say I LOVE BREASTESES?

Nhex, Tuesday, 19 June 2018 20:08 (six years ago) link

and the article even mentions Senran Kagura at the end as an example of this

Nhex, Tuesday, 19 June 2018 20:10 (six years ago) link

i'm actually more surprised he even tried to defend it.
yeah, it was such a worthless, transparently thoughtless reply.

i think the first time i can remember thinking about how women are depicted in videogames was back when the first tomb raider came out in 1996. this issue, specifically:

https://i.imgur.com/Q7jJyCZ.jpg

in the interview, lara croft's polygonal hotness came up, and the developer guy was like "we figured if you're going to spend 20 hours playing as someone, they might as well have a nice arse." i think that was also the second time i noticed someone use the word "arse" (after braveheart in 1995).

obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 20:19 (six years ago) link

This is whats good about Destiny - the female characters have booming strong thighs and solid armour and no boobular action going on.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Thursday, 28 June 2018 00:17 (six years ago) link

three weeks pass...

“Before Gamergate I was a pretty standard liberal or even a socialist,” Ralph told me. “I’d write hit pieces on right-wing figures. It was a hobby. But when Gamergate broke out and I got an audience that happened to be more reactionary, I thought, It’s my job to do propaganda for Gamergate. The ethics in video game journalism stuff, I didn’t care about that.”

these lines caught my eye (from: https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/josephbernstein/lane-davis-ralph-retort-seattle4truth-alt-right)

ogmor, Thursday, 19 July 2018 09:32 (six years ago) link

His breakthrough came in the form of a three-hour, 20-minute video titled “#GamerGate: Actually, it’s about...” The May 2015 video, which cuts from talks at tech conferences to journal articles to Twitter screenshots, advances a mind-bogglingly complex theory linking the geopolitics of the late Bush and early Obama years to a plot by elite institutions to take control of the American education system through an open source gaming console called the Ouya.

does noted ilx ouya-owner karl malone know about this? is he in on it???

BIG RICHARD ENERGY (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 19 July 2018 10:05 (six years ago) link

I only played it once, I swear!! It’s somewhere in my closet, buried under camping gear! Oh shit, did I give it my wi-fi password?!?

Karl Malone, Thursday, 19 July 2018 14:08 (six years ago) link

I should have just build a retropiiiiiiie *voice disappears downs a dark tunnel*

Karl Malone, Thursday, 19 July 2018 14:09 (six years ago) link

karl is a soros agent CONFIRMED #qanon #ouyagate

BIG RICHARD ENERGY (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 19 July 2018 14:11 (six years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KW4gu7L6uE

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 31 July 2018 06:53 (six years ago) link

found that linked within this feature: https://www.polygon.com/2018/7/25/17593516/video-game-culture-toxic-men-explained

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 31 July 2018 06:56 (six years ago) link

That was an incredible read, thanks. I really liked the bits from Dr. Gray & Soraya Chemaly.

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 31 July 2018 19:48 (six years ago) link

OH, THE '90s

Nhex, Wednesday, 1 August 2018 07:09 (six years ago) link

four weeks pass...

https://kotaku.com/inside-the-culture-of-sexism-at-riot-games-1828165483

Wowze, not a good look.

Van Horn Street, Wednesday, 29 August 2018 20:53 (six years ago) link

it's a typical LA-based showbiz company that makes all of its money off a "free to play" game full of its own IP comic book characters, plus esports franchising and sponsorship deals - it's not just NAGL, it's a fucking way of life

I hate everything

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 29 August 2018 22:46 (six years ago) link

https://www.polygon.com/2018/9/3/17800798/this-land-is-my-land-preview-native-american-western-stealth-game

Seems intersting but this givesme pause:

The hero is a man who makes use of traditional weapons as well as modern guns to stem the invasion. According to the game’s development lead Denis Khachatran, he represents an amalgam of western tribes.

Nad Reddit (Leee), Wednesday, 5 September 2018 20:25 (six years ago) link

two weeks pass...

That seems to be against the trend described in the thread title. Good. Fuck those sad little people.

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 25 September 2018 22:46 (six years ago) link

three weeks pass...

CDPR making transphobic tweets again to promote their shit

too bad people will give them infinite benefit of the doubt forever because they made witcher 3

ciderpress, Monday, 22 October 2018 22:50 (six years ago) link

shocked, shocked, etc.

I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Monday, 22 October 2018 23:17 (six years ago) link

well, that's a bummer. i didn't know that was a thing.

Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 23 October 2018 12:06 (six years ago) link

yeah it's the 3rd time this year iirc

ciderpress, Tuesday, 23 October 2018 13:07 (six years ago) link

what benefit of the doubt? witcher 3 wasn't a tour de force for trans issues. they can be transphobic and also make excellent games the two are not related.

Mordy, Tuesday, 23 October 2018 13:58 (six years ago) link

they always make these tweets in some way that's just vague enough to have plausible deniability for the people who want to defend their favorite game dev. i just mentioned witcher 3 because that's what built that goodwill

ciderpress, Tuesday, 23 October 2018 14:15 (six years ago) link

this one was a bit more pointed/aggressive than the previous instances though, it's clearly intentional

ciderpress, Tuesday, 23 October 2018 14:16 (six years ago) link

one month passes...

this is from 2015, but check out this important "debate"

https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2015-11-10-street-fighter-5-sparks-censorship-debate

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 27 November 2018 20:16 (five years ago) link

Post beta update, her crotch at this moment is off screen.

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 27 November 2018 21:13 (five years ago) link

it's like, just imagine being part of this debate

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 27 November 2018 21:19 (five years ago) link

Capcom had said the boob jiggle was a bug.

haha

jmm, Tuesday, 27 November 2018 21:19 (five years ago) link

What if casual racism/sexism in games has been bugs all along?

jmm, Tuesday, 27 November 2018 21:22 (five years ago) link

i get the appeal in soul calibur but street fighter characters don't even look good anymore in 4 and 5 it's such an ugly art style

ciderpress, Tuesday, 27 November 2018 21:27 (five years ago) link

the appeal of wanting to see close-up upskirt shots during character intros you mean?

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 27 November 2018 21:34 (five years ago) link

hmm no not that

ciderpress, Tuesday, 27 November 2018 21:59 (five years ago) link

speedrunners exposed as altright nazi scum, Games Done Quick refusing to disinvite them saying it's "not our policy to ban people from our events for differing opinions"

Here we have the biggest nazi in speedrunning, @RWhiteGoose linking and quoting Jordan Peterson, then posting some hateful anti-woman propaganda along with famed GDQ Runner @graviton29 spewing extremely transphobic garbage in a safe-space nazi speedrunning discord pic.twitter.com/soO76NaeGK

— 🏴 Antifa Andrea 🌹 (@pizzaparty531) November 27, 2018


https://gamesdonequick.com/notice

( X '____' )/ (zappi), Wednesday, 28 November 2018 04:19 (five years ago) link

the phrase "the biggest nazi in speedrunning" just broke my brain

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 04:47 (five years ago) link

I like how it ends up with "ha ha yes well I'd probably still meet up with an attractive trans person just to check. say if they were hot irl then it would still be a good story. ha ha imagine, I guess I'd probably sleep with them if they were nice lol, good story to tell, gooooood... story."

sans lep (sic), Wednesday, 28 November 2018 04:56 (five years ago) link

"not our policy to ban people from our events for differing opinions"

also the opinions shared in that discord chat are probably also shared by a huge chunk of their audience

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 05:20 (five years ago) link

There’s more than a couple trans women who run at GDQ and at least one who I think is an organizer, fwiw, I will look for some individual reax

I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Wednesday, 28 November 2018 05:38 (five years ago) link

After receiving additional information on the situation that was brought to our attention today, we were able to confirm the authenticity of the screenshots we received. As such, the people in question will not be representing us at any GDQ events indefinitely.

— Games Done Quick (@GamesDoneQuick) November 28, 2018

I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Wednesday, 28 November 2018 05:40 (five years ago) link

I guess that’s that, then. I’m glad they made the right call eventually, but let me be clear: it shouldn’t have taken this much additional information and blowback. I won’t be forgetting this.https://t.co/cKJW54buHM

— the eevee respecter respecter (@princessproto) November 28, 2018

I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Wednesday, 28 November 2018 05:41 (five years ago) link

communication has never been their strong suit, and i really want the day to come where they're more put together, as opposed to the weird state they've been in for the past 6 years where they've never rly changed

— Kaitlyn (@orcastraw) November 28, 2018

I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Wednesday, 28 November 2018 05:42 (five years ago) link

Anyway always get a sensitivity read on your PR and don’t put out a statement if there’s a chance you’ll change your mind an hour later!

I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Wednesday, 28 November 2018 05:43 (five years ago) link

And do what Proto says and watch https://mobile.twitter.com/PwerUpWithPride between rounds of Smash Bros next weekend

I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Wednesday, 28 November 2018 05:46 (five years ago) link

gaming was a mistake

sign up for my waterless urinals webinar (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 28 November 2018 11:51 (five years ago) link

gaming's fine, fan culture is the mistake

Bound 4 da Remoan (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 28 November 2018 11:52 (five years ago) link

scared little boys trying to outmacho each other is the mistake

thomasintrouble, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 12:13 (five years ago) link

gdq has always had drama issues, which is why i tend to keep my distance, but i'm glad they usually wind up doing the right thing eventually. i don't know if i'm being ageist about it but i sort of attribute it to so many of them being young.

there's a lot of horrible transphobic stuff in gaming but the flipside of that is that trans people are more _visible_ in gaming, which is a really awesome thing that's been incredibly helpful to me personally. role models are cool.

also, i've seen my fair share of the quiet transphobia of people who have never actually seen a trans person in their lives, and i feel like some, though not all, of those people would be just as big assholes as the gamer nazis.

dub pilates (rushomancy), Wednesday, 28 November 2018 14:44 (five years ago) link

Pretty sure the average age of GDQ runners is around 17 and if the organizers are older it’s only because they’ve stuck around a few years

I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Wednesday, 28 November 2018 14:53 (five years ago) link


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