Oh my days. This is so much better. I thought I was going mad!
― Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Monday, 4 October 2021 18:24 (two years ago) link
I guess madness fits with the storyline, lol.
Apparently it shows a 'weapon at risk' message but it's easy to miss:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XuON2lsAf30
― change display name (Jordan), Monday, 4 October 2021 18:31 (two years ago) link
Ah maybe my old TV could be cutting that bit off the screen as it overscans slightly. But I can see everything else just fine.
In other news: I did it! I got past that goddamn burning pyre, killed an ogre, decked some crows, did a whole bunch of stuff but then fell off a ledge and got mauled by giant rats. And now I'm back where I started! Dang!
― Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Monday, 4 October 2021 19:08 (two years ago) link
And a very cool thing is that (with help from a vid) I managed to open up a shortcut so I shouldn't need to keep playing through that part. Also, I guess if you've already grabbed items from an area, there's no real need to keep killing all the enemies there, you can run past them?
― Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Monday, 4 October 2021 19:41 (two years ago) link
Yep! Unless you want to keep killing them for echoes and to refill your blood vials/bullets.
― change display name (Jordan), Monday, 4 October 2021 19:47 (two years ago) link
xp yeah once you've opened up the shortcut and got the items you can do exactly that, it's part of the fun of these games, the level design is so great that the world visibly opens up as you play through. Finding those shortcuts is one of gaming's great pleasures!
― Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Monday, 4 October 2021 19:49 (two years ago) link
It's very easy to get lost, I will say. Knowing where to actually go next, or if the route you're taking is the wisest one is very tricky. I'm following a short intro guide but it only goes up to the first boss.
If you all hadn't told me about the weapon thing I'd be in so much shit
― Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Monday, 4 October 2021 20:22 (two years ago) link
Level design in Bloodborne is as good as it is in the first Dark Souls.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 4 October 2021 20:36 (two years ago) link
Agree but tbh I do find it more labyrinthine...I have a harder time visualizing the level compared to Dark Sousl, and I can never remember how to navigate Cathedral Ward and the surrounding areas.
― change display name (Jordan), Monday, 4 October 2021 20:46 (two years ago) link
Okay I'm ready for the first boss
― Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Tuesday, 5 October 2021 00:07 (two years ago) link
Yeah so the boss is tricky. The vid I'm following suggests throwing Molotovs at its head, but of course you need a fair few and it's easier said than done. Farming them each time and then dying is pretty tedious, but I have to say I'm enjoying this now. It's true you get into the rhythm of it.
In the tutorial I was watching, the dude was able to summon an NPC to help him using the Beckoning Bell. This didn't work for me, but I'm playing offline?
Also, here's a little Easter egg: if you let the title menu play for a few minutes there's a cool intro featuring (I think) Cleric Beast at the end
― Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Tuesday, 5 October 2021 01:23 (two years ago) link
But yeah, I love how much this is reminding me of Super Metroid aka one of the GOAT games
― Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Tuesday, 5 October 2021 01:24 (two years ago) link
I want to say the first boss in Bloodborne is meant to intimidate you, but in the end is pretty standard (that is, stab it in the butt). The next boss is a lot tougher and less predictable, but pretty fun, iirc.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 5 October 2021 03:10 (two years ago) link
You can summon npcs offline, but only with insight points, which you earn primarily through meeting bosses. You also need to pick up or buy the Beckoning Bell in the dream, I think?
If you had go to the other boss first, then you can summon for the Cleric Beast iirc.
― change display name (Jordan), Tuesday, 5 October 2021 04:34 (two years ago) link
Miyazaki is really into bells.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 5 October 2021 13:13 (two years ago) link
I have the Beckoning Bell and two insight points. In the vid I'm watching, there's a little glowing spot that gives you a hint about ringing the bell, and they do and the NPC comes and trashes everything. It's great but I'm not even getting the glowy message.
― Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Tuesday, 5 October 2021 21:34 (two years ago) link
Also, you know when you're fighting enemies and you sometimes hear "AWAY! AWAY!" or "YOU CURSED BEAST!", is that you speaking or is it them? It's a strange thing for literal zombie monsters to say, but maybe that's the idea?
― Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Tuesday, 5 October 2021 21:36 (two years ago) link
That's them, I think only non-beasts speak? But they are going slowly insane iirc.
Ohhh, apparently you may need to grab a different bell from the dream?https://bloodborne.wiki.fextralife.com/Old+Hunter+Bell
― change display name (Jordan), Tuesday, 5 October 2021 21:41 (two years ago) link
Well, I've looked it up and it's defo the Beckoning Bell and a bunch of people are having the same problem (note not turning up) but haven't found a solution yet. I'll work it out. Just currently farming Blood Echoes so I can beat Cleric Beast as he's kicking my arse
― Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Tuesday, 5 October 2021 22:52 (two years ago) link
everything i'm reading says you need the old hunter's bell to summon npcs? you still use the beckoning bell for the actual summoning
― ufo, Wednesday, 6 October 2021 00:57 (two years ago) link
if you're having trouble with the cleric beast there are other ways forward, it's not a mandatory boss despite being the first most people encounter
― ufo, Wednesday, 6 October 2021 00:59 (two years ago) link
Fair dos. I guess as he's apparently not as hard as the second boss (whom I haven't tried yet but looks NAILS) I may as well try him. I find the hardest bit is not getting the camera too tangled up in the scenery as sometimes I've no idea what's going on. Apparently I have to use a lot of Molotovs on him and try to parry attack while slashing him in the back, but he keeps going utterly berserk and smashing me to pieces whenever I get anywhere close
― Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Wednesday, 6 October 2021 23:05 (two years ago) link
So I'm just farming Blood Echoes and Molotovs by luring the two werewolves down to the house as I seem to be using a lot on him.
― Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Wednesday, 6 October 2021 23:06 (two years ago) link
Mashed up the Cleric Beast tonight after a bit of grinding. I did accidentally use my Iosefka Potion though.
Father Gascoigne mauled me to death in return
― Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Thursday, 7 October 2021 23:57 (two years ago) link
So I've watched a bunch of videos of people beating Father Gascoigne. It all looks very simple and easy when they do it. When it's me, I barely have a chance to open my eyes before he's right on top of me and mashing me into a corner
― Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Sunday, 10 October 2021 22:12 (two years ago) link
Did you get or use the music box? That helps later on. The first stage of the fight I want to say is all about teaching you to be aggressive, because iirc if you give him a breather he'll immediately attack or shoot you or whatever. I think you can use gravestones for cover, too.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 10 October 2021 22:36 (two years ago) link
Yeah I've got the music box. It will be fine, I hope. I've only given him a couple of goes so far (bit annoying having to run down that bridge every time to get to him). Just impressed out how quick he gets on to me, like it feels as though the screen has barely loaded and he's already murking me
― Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Sunday, 10 October 2021 23:29 (two years ago) link
If it makes you feel, I think on my first playthrough I cheesed him by getting him stuck on some trees, and used the spin move with the axe endlessly. Then used the music box and somehow got through the second phase.
Then on the second playthrough, I was able to fight him straight up and it was no big thing.
― change display name (Jordan), Sunday, 10 October 2021 23:51 (two years ago) link
*feel any better
I was using the saw cleaver but I just ended up buying the axe anyway and wow that spin attack is something!!
― Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Monday, 11 October 2021 07:41 (two years ago) link
I did see a video where someone managed to get him stuck in a flight of steps and just carpet bombed him with Molotovs but it wasn't anywhere close to easy when I tried it
― Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Monday, 11 October 2021 07:42 (two years ago) link
High-level Bloodborne pvp strats:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8eV9WswHm7E
― change display name (Jordan), Monday, 11 October 2021 14:39 (two years ago) link
Is it worth me subscribing to PS Plus? I was considering it yesterday cos the game looks quite different online, but £50 in one go feels like a lot to lay down (I know.you can do more frequent payments but they're pricier)
― Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Monday, 11 October 2021 18:14 (two years ago) link
Trying to think of what other games I have that might be enhanced by it. RDR2?
― Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Monday, 11 October 2021 18:17 (two years ago) link
Honestly probably not for BB, since I'm guessing you're not too interested in being invaded by people, and while summoning people for help on the bosses is fun, it's not necessary and also isn't as satisfying as figuring it out yourself imo.
But for Dark Souls 3 it's basically the whole game for me, and I anticipate it being a huge part of Elden Ring too. Not that it works much differently in those games, but I think it's more fun after you finish one of them and are comfortable with the mechanics.
― change display name (Jordan), Monday, 11 October 2021 18:26 (two years ago) link
I'm so close to beating Gascoigne but once he transforms into that werewolf thing, it's instant game over. He just manages to corner me every time and smash me to bits before I can even begin to use the music box. Having to grind for bullets is tedious and running down that bridge with the burning ball each time is quite annoying cos if I don't do it exactly right I seem to get caught in a melee. Had to give up again tonight, but there'll be a next time.
― Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Monday, 11 October 2021 22:47 (two years ago) link
The tricky thing is knowing when to stand there and wait for him to do a long attack so you can parry-riposte and when to get the hell out the way because he's shooting you or doing that quite vicious jump attack which is really hard to parry. All too often even when I do parry him, I accidentally shoot again or I simply don't reach and end up just doing a weak attack.
― Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Monday, 11 October 2021 23:55 (two years ago) link
there's a shortcut allowing you to avoid the bridge IIRC, have you properly explored the sewers? If you do that you can find a way through past a giant angry pig that doesn't involve running over the bridge
― Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Tuesday, 12 October 2021 08:38 (two years ago) link
Ah yeah I saw there was a ladder down. Is it faster to go that way then?
― Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Tuesday, 12 October 2021 10:02 (two years ago) link
yeah I think so, and you can avoid the hog or farm it for souls as you wish, I think
― Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Tuesday, 12 October 2021 10:05 (two years ago) link
dog latin, definitely utilize the gravestones as cheese and attack selectively.
― When Young Sheldon began to rap (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 17 October 2021 20:17 (two years ago) link
Meanwhile, rumors abound that a Bloodborne remaster and a sequel are in the works for PS5.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 17 October 2021 21:06 (two years ago) link
Finally beat Father Gascoigne. I was shaking!
― Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Monday, 1 November 2021 00:51 (two years ago) link
Now I'm in Old Yharnam with the cunt with the Gatling gun
Happy Halloween!
― change display name (Jordan), Monday, 1 November 2021 01:04 (two years ago) link
Gatling gun guy is a PIA. I would suggest ... running.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 1 November 2021 01:16 (two years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbOy8GpuKA4
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 1 November 2021 01:51 (two years ago) link
There's a reason I quit playing games in the PS1 era
― Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Monday, 1 November 2021 10:08 (two years ago) link
Gatling guy was quite a big mental block for me progressing further into the game when it was first out, but apparently the bullets don't actually track you that well if you keep moving
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luGNOcV49PI
(love this channel)
― hiroyoshi tins in (Sgt. Biscuits), Monday, 1 November 2021 10:18 (two years ago) link
Something disorienting about this game is that you can sometimes hear people speaking, or monsters growling but you're not sure where from. I always assume it's an enemy speaking (like in the house near Central Yharnam you can hear someone saying "This is a bad curse!") but once I've slayed them, I can still hear it. Same as the big troll monsters next to the house who kind of grunt or groan - you can still hear them after the fact.
― Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Monday, 1 November 2021 10:40 (two years ago) link