Elden Ring: YOU DIED on a horse

Or at the very least, I never properly incorporated jumping to avoid certain attacks instead of rolling, which was a Sekiro thing too.

Thought i knew what I had to do to fight Renalla (kill the key singing minions first), waded in and got immediately killed. WTF.

And like I see ppl said upthread, why the feck is this the one battle with no site of grace/marika statue right out front, forcing one to trek back from the parlour EVERY TIME.

I get making a game challenging. Trollish punative design can get fucked.

There's a perfectly sensible lore reason for renalla not keeping any stakes of marika around tbh

Yeah a bit of reading I've done suggests that. I dunno if I'm just not far enough in the game but very little of this lore has come across me? Just the story of Radahn being all full of rot, something about Radagon's statue, maybe I havent been paying attention.

well if you didn't know - the majority of the lore in this and other souls games is dispensed through item descriptions. though i think i learned the basics about rennala/marika/radagon (at least at that point in the game) just through talking to gideon and turtle pope

Trayce have you managed to shut off the marble?

What? You can shut off the marble?!

I died enough times to Rennala that I never noticed the marble was there eventually, you just sprint and hug the safe spot by the right wall, it bounces the same way every time

I left a little ILX message on that safe spot. Forgot what it said it, it it was a good one!

turn back poxy fule?

xps it's a testament to the depth of this game that you can play it as much as fgti seems to have and *still* find out about stuff you missed!

Anyway, here's a pretty video about how this game is pretty

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LkuXemiZ-I

i ended up turning off the marble after dog latin mentioned it was possible, but i'm still not sure exactly what triggered turning it off. i was looking for a lever to pull but i guess it was triggered by something else i did in that area (being vague to avoid specific spoilers).

I think it's that spot where you exit the big courtyard, the way other than coming from the marble or going up the elevator. You can jump or shimmy to another platform and go up the ladder, which puts you above the marble. There must have been something there to turn it off?

Trayce, the other Souls games may not be for you, a run back to the boss was just standard procedure for years (you get pretty good at zig-zagging past the enemies on the way there). Trying to think of what the worst one is...maybe Queelag in DS1, where you have to cross the poison swamp while giants are throwing boulders at you to get back to the boss?

I wonder how many dungeons I missed in this game. Just saw a video containing the 'Azuria Side Tomb', which I had definitely never seen before.

The run to the Ancient Hero in Demon's Souls is absolute hell, though he is not hard himself when you get there

Ornstein and Smough prog the worst for the difficulty of the fight and the fact that you have to summon that fuckin ridiculous rube Goldberg elevator again every time you die

You were going all that way for O&S?! You can open that shortcut to the room near the bonfire and just run by a few knights. Or do the thing where you jump off the spiral staircase.

*nintendo tipline operator from 1989 pops his head out*

"AND don't forget, you can hit up, down, down, up, select, select, select to start the game with an extra flask!"

Dah fuck!!

not really. but if from games were in the 1980s, they definitely would had done that shit

i wonder if anyone has ever made a full on Envoy's Horn + Oracular Bubble build? it's a lot more fun when you're the one tooting the horn!

I've seen it, it looks like...a blast.

I dont mind re-schlepping to the boss, but not when I'm killed 2.5 seconds after i get there :(

So after you merk the hecking knight after the marble run, you can jump out a window to your left. There's a mage there so watch out. Keep going, climb a tall ladder and there are some fairly tricky baddies up there. But if you manage to beat them, the marble shuts off and the run gets just that bit easier

uh, i found millicent, i found the guy in the shack who wanted me to save her, he told me to head to the swamp to get something, and when i showed up there, millicent invaded me, so i killed her.

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:(

it's too bad, because i just found commander o'neill and easily dispatched him. i guess i was supposed to know it was Millicent invading and not hurt her?

whatever. i'm roleplaying here and when you invade me you cross a line

https://i.imgur.com/dUHmfvv.jpg

Wow, good job killing her, she used waterfowl dance on me and then I could never get her to invade again.

I don't think killing invader Millicent affects her actual quest, though.

yeah, was about to say, she's alive and well! guess killing her invading version was not the "real" her, which i can respect

I have that aristocrat jacket too! I like how it gives me a big fat bum.

someone on ilx just defeated a shardbearer! :D

KM that image

It fills me with happiness and familiarity

LMAO @ KM's screenshot.

I never got Roderika's crimson hood, but I rock the navy one quite regularly.

I got round to giving this a go on the PS5 - the difference visually is stark, and its being comparred on basically similar 4K samsung TVs but on the PS5 you can see every thread and scale and wart. It loads like a demon too. PLaytime possibly alittle more responsive? I've gotten better myself so I cant tell whats that and whats the console.

Started a new prisoner build just out of testing/boredom and was level 26 within a couple hours, now that I know what Im doing. But I found a few things I seem to have completely missed on all my other playthroughs! One of the artist shacks. A few caves. a very nice incantation from a dungbeetle I'll need to go make my faith build go look for (bloodflame blade).

My eyes (which are having severe dry eye problems) are freaking KILLING me.

Yes, starting new builds is a fun way to show yourself that you have, in fact, gotten better at the game. On a whim I made a new save as a Prophet (my original starting class was Prisoner) and went to the cave with the Beastman, and beat him in one try. In my original playthrough it took me like, at least a dozen tries!

this game is so good

That horse parkour you have to do to get to the top of caelid tower to activate the rune is rage inducing, but I got there in the end.

I spent about 3 hours fighting Rennala today. Not quite there yet. The targeting system makes phase 1 really irritating, I know who I have to hit but if I use targeting it targets the wrong damn minion, if I dont use it I'm flailing my katana around like an idiot. Most of my deaths have been for STUPID reasons too like forgetting to duck her laser beam or not avoiing the chandeleir falling on me. I can get about halfway thru phase 2 then something does me in.

I dont co-op, so whatre the best spirit ashes on her? Ive been using wolfys but I have loads of others (inc mimic tear)

I wish I could work out how to share the screenshot I did of my magnificent, beardly old man in his flowing Lazuli robe and sparkly Nokron antler headgear.

I would recommend a tankier spirit ash than the wolves for that fight, and to save it until the second phase, if possible. IIRC I beat Renalla with Aurelia the Jellyfish at my side.

I beat her with the wolves, I think I just got lucky with her only killing one of them with the death ray and the other two stunlocked her a couple of times at useful moments

Think I used the skeletons after failing with marionette archers. Just needed something mobile and distracting

Yeah that was my thinking with the wolves, they hit and stun and theres 3 of them. I have a couple other multiple-dude ashes I could try. I thought about doing the Ancestor ashes but he shoots magic arrows, she'd be immune to that right?

Well I'm finally here, at the last boss(es). Radagon is manageable, but by the time I get to Elden Beast--is this even still a spoiler? I'm all outta flasks. Time to git gud (or keep grinding), I reckon.

the wolves are good for rennala. if you can, i recommend calling them just before you hit her for the last time in phase 1. that way they carry over to phase 2 but you don’t have to waste time trying to call them before dodging the death ray.

also in phase 1 it’s best to not kill the minions throwing books at you. you just have to hit them once for it to count, and if you kill too many of them it gets hard to find the ones throwing books at you because they’re in the outer ring instead of in the middle.

you want to try and work quickly to avoid getting to the phase where she throws tombstones at you etc. find the three important minions, hit them once each, then pound away at her once she falls

in phase 2 she was the rare boss where my default strategy of just hacking away at her a bunch seemed to work. if you can keep whaling away at her she can’t get her spells going as much. for once it pays to be aggressive and impatient lol.

Haha yeah I have been clobbered with the tombstones a few times.

I'm using a katana - I cant use any heavy weapons due to low STR - but I'm wondering of light weapons if it makes any diff if I use a katana, broadsword or rapier? prob not as long as its + is high I assume?

I don't imagine it would--I know in some cases different types of weapons matter, eg, blunt/strike weapons being more effective against armor han slashing/piercing ones. But I think any type of physical damage suffices against Rennala.

I'll just keep chipping away then! It really doesnt seem like it should be hard. Its just ANNOYING :D