Playstation 5 and Xbox Series X

About time from a thread on these right

currently live: PS5 - the future of gaming show
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RuLci-lSeCo&feature=emb_logo

i'm guessing that anything with "project" in front of its name is a tech demo that will never be released as a game

1 more try
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RuLci-lSeCo

quite underwhelming so far

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xp strong disagree, this is one of the most impressive console launch/line ups I've ever seen

the one where you're the cat in robot blade runner world? the avatar/spirited away looking one... the lbw4 trailer with the go team music!

I'm just here for Spider-Man: Miles Morales

SOLAR ASH looks like Journey?

new hitman looks class

ok this fake animal crossing looks bad lol. but most everything else looking pretty good I thought!

oh! the trailer had a dark twist ending...

PS.. is it 5? I think we're on 5 now. PS5

OMG HZD2!!!

we knew that was coming tho

I mean yes, I knew they had a sequel planned, but I did not expect it to be part of the presentation and be a launch title.

i doubt its a launch title unless they announced it as such and i missed it

2021 at earliest I'd think.

The one game (Pragmata?) had a 2022 date

this was my favorite trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-v1BxSETvI
weenie hands

"talkin bout Bugsnax!"

Was that the Morty voice actor?

Doesn't sound like him to me. Was that the Yakko voice actor in the Hitman III trailer?

That Bugsnax song is a jam

I love it when songs sound like they're in another language but it turns out to be english.

Unless they announce some kinda Game Pass equivalent I'm not buying a new system for a good long while

https://www.engadget.com/control-ps5-xbox-series-x-154810298.html

This was inevitable. Probably won't be available for launch (DLC isn't even completely out yet) but I'm sure when it arrives in a "Bureau Director's Edition" of some sort it'll have the DLC and look gobstobbingly amazing with ray-tracing and hopefully a smoother frame rate.

Control is one of a very few acclaimed PS4 games I want to play but haven't bought to add to my vast backlog just yet, not least because I've heard questionable things about how it plays on non-pro PS4 (though of course other people say it's fine). But if it's being better optimized for PS5, and the changes/improvements/additions turn out to be significant, I guess that means it's going to have to wait a few years for me, unless there is a PS4 fire sale that drops it below, like, $10.

can I not just buy a cheap digital copy of control... and it will play better on PS5?

they haven't given details, but the hope is that they'll actually bump up the graphics and such to use the power of the new consoles
i'm saying this is one of the remasters that will actually be worth supporting? i hope

digital foundry put up an article on backwards compatibility on the series x:
https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2020-xbox-series-x-back-compat-is-transformative

PS5 BC in boost mode should give similar results

"Should" as in "they need to match it to stay competitive" or "is reasonably expected to"?

Reasonably expected. It feels like these new consoles are more massive spec bumps than architectural leaps

That said I'm a little jealous when I see PC footage of games like Avengers which don't even come close to a steady 30fps on the stock PS4. Slightly makes me want to upgrade. Or spend $1k+ and get a gaming/streaming PC. If I do upgrade to PS5, (to be charitable) unoptimized multi-platform games like Avengers and Control will be my first tests.

i assume PS5 BC will just run the game with the PS4 Pro graphics/resolution settings unless the dev tests and patches in a new performance profile

> "Should" as in "they need to match it to stay competitive" or "is reasonably expected to"?

the latter, it's hardware compatiblity

> i assume PS5 BC will just run the game with the PS4 Pro graphics/resolution settings unless the dev tests and patches in a new performance profile

that's what the legacy modes are for and no patches should be needed there except for the rare pathological case

boost mode should work like series x: games with unlocked framerates run better, games with dynamic resolution spend more time in higher res or lock to the max, etc.
this is where issues are likely to appear and patches might be needed to fix problems, for example, some games like dark souls 2 tie game code to framerate so the 60fps ps4 port initially had a bug where weapon durability wore down 2x faster

We can't believe we have to say this, but please do not blow vape smoke into your Xbox Series X.

— Xbox (@Xbox) November 11, 2020

Not hearing a no from Sony, though.

Brag if you snagged one today so I can seethe in jealousy

theres no games yet

but bugsknacks

thats on ps4 and pc

I miraculously scored a PS5 thru Best Buy online the other week. Picked it up tonight. It’s huge and absurd, but honestly sitting here looking at it with its lights on in the semi-dark I’m coming around to it aesthetically.

It’s a lot of things, but I like how it gives me Hopper’s Nighthawks vibes most of all.

Demon’s Souls remake is incredible so far, I’ll save that for another thread.

i don't think i've ever felt as much desire for violent retribution as i do for the painful death of scalpers at the moment

The late teens looking kid who processed my order in the pick up area asked me “Is this your first one?”

Apparently a good amount of people have rolled through openly bragging about how this is the 3rd, 4th, 5th one they’ve snagged. Fuck those assholes for real.

real q - why is this such a big deal rn? surely there are very few exclusives and few TVs that can even show off the improved gfx?

It honestly shouldn’t be a big thing right now. Unless you’re a Souls dork and are really excited for that Demon’s Souls remake. Which is me. And maybe 10% of the market.

People freak for a hyped product regardless of its immediate usefulness, particularly if it’s rare and status-y.

I never got a PS4, I want a new gen machine to catch up on stuff I've wanted to play for ages and maybe new stuff over the next few years, shd've known capitalism never comes thru when you want it to

I was also stoked on grabbing the PS5 because I have a grip of PS4 games on disc that I never completed because my optical drive shit the bed. Being able to play PS4 games on the PS5 (with graphical/performance upgrades!) is a big sell.

Reports seem to indicate the PS5 won’t be terribly hard to come by in a couple of months. Production’s ramped up hard.

Demon's Souls and Spider-Man MM is way better than most launch lineups I can think of tbh, and I hear the platformer that comes preinstalled is really fun

Also being able to play Hitman 3 with fancy graphics and no Epic games compatibility headache would be a draw for me

I don't know if I'm even that enthused but I ordered a ps5 today

if hot post-covid summer falls through, I've got my plan

Well, assuming my order is not cancelled for some arcane reason, I managed to snag a PS5 at a Target a few miles away. Got the bundle with Horizon Zero West, figuring that was one I planned to play eventually anyway. Order now processing. Assuming all goes well, first up may be ... Last of Us 2? I suspect I've got to make sure I have the emotional stores for that one first.

Congrats!

This chip shortage is crazy.

I do think it's nuts that almost two years after launch the system is still hard to come by, or at least not easy to get at retail (side note: the Xbox Series X is not nearly as scarce). But the PS5 scarcity is definitely also being driven (or at least potentiated) by second-hand scalpers, from whom you can buy a PS5 right now ... for $200 over retail. I can't tell if the modest measures that some retailers are taking to throttle scalpers are exploitation themselves. Like I said, I got mine at Target, which was kind of good luck, kind of planning, since I knew a restock was happening and happened to be checking the site at the right time. (I still had to drive 45 minutes, but that's a Chicago-problem; 45 minutes is 7 miles). But Walmart requires you to join their Walmart+ plan to even get a chance to purchase a PS5. Iirc it can at least be cancelled, but the Best Buy program you need to join for a shot will only give you a partial refund, and at $200 on top of the cost of the console, that's as bad as the scalpers. Gamestop seems to get it in stock a bunch, but only as part of big house bundles that pump the price up considerably. Amazon has a new invitation system, but despite going live several weeks ago afaict no one has received an invite yet, so no one really knows how that system works. I feel bad for the grandparents and other olds that have to deal with this stuff come holiday season.

I haven't set up the machine yet, but I'm a little surprised how many PS4 games I own *don't* have free upgrades to PS4. Spider-man requires you to buy Miles Morales to get Spider-Man Remastered. Ghost of Tsushima costs $20 to upgrade, I think. Control requires the purchase of the Ultimate Edition. Some of these and many of the other games I have, however, either have free upgrades or, like Elden Ring, reportedly run better in PS4 mode on PS5 than they do natively on PS5. No idea why.

FYI if you already started Control the save file does NOT transfer from the PS4 to PS5 versions, learned that the hard way

The Elden Ring performance thing comes from certain PS5 graphic effects making the engine not run at a consistent 60fps, i heard - sounds like something easily patchable at some point

Haven't started Control yet, had always been waiting for PS5 (but not patient enough to hold off on buying it when it was on sale for PS4). I figure I'll just wait for the ultimate edition to go on sale again before the end of the year and snag it then.

Control: Ultimate Edition is in the middle "Extra" tier of PS Plus fwiw

It's definitely intriguing, but I only saw maybe three or so other games on there right now that I want to play but don't own: Demon's Souls, Miles Morales, and Returnal. Demon's Souls and Returnal (the ones I want to play the least) are PS5 only and given their price could justify $15 a month, but if I wanted to I bet I could eventually get Miles on PS4 (with a free upgrade to PS5) for about the cost of a month of Extra, and the same goes for Control Ultimate (I already own the base version for PS4) when it goes on sale again. Granted, Sony can just keep adding things to PS Plus, and they will, and I'm sure things will leave PS Plus, too, but I go through games so slowly I think it would end up like many of the other streaming services I have, paying a premium just to have a ton of options I don't really take advantage of.

Ask and you shall receive: Control Ultimate just went on sale for $15, so I bought it and installed the free PS5 upgrade. I also bought the triple pack of Metro games, because why not? $15 for three games, and the third game is upgraded for PS5. People seem to like them, as far as shooters go. People love the latest Ratchet & Clank, too, which is on sale for $40, but as much as I enjoyed the last one I also thought it was kind of dumb, so I think I'll wait until it sinks to the magic $25 mark. Same with Demon's Souls and Miles Morales. It'll force me to focus on my backlog.

Bought a Victrix controller on ebay because I'm finally sick of the PS5 controller. It was always too big and uncomfortable for me, and now that I'm dealing with some tendonitis and arm/hand issues from multiple sources, I just can't mess up my hands playing video games. This one is supposed to be a little smaller, and also has adjustable trigger sensitivity and configurability (moving the buttons around, buttons on the bottom that can be assigned to double other ones). Hope it works!

Heads up that Best Buy has some bonkers promotion right now, 10 Days of $10 Games or something like that. Each day I guess will be a PS/XBox/PC game on sale for $10, with free shipping (if you want), until they run out. I bought Sackboy for the PS5 today, because why not? They have not announced the future games yet:

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/video-games/video-game-sale-events/pcmcat1649105798442.c

Gotham Knights for $10 was today, sadly went OOS really fast

Deal today is Far Cry 6, which seems less compelling (both as a game and as a discount).

So far so good with that controller btw, it's a little more balanced and comfortable for sure (I'm trying not to curl my pinky and index fingers around the grips these days, and to basically have all my fingers extended but still have the controller resting in my palms).

It tells you to download an app from the Microsoft store to update the controller firmware and calibrate it, but hilariously I don't have a computer that's up-to-date enough to download anything from the Microsoft store. Fortunately it seems to work just fine out of the box (wired & wireless).

Surprising no one but still disappointing, that Best Buy sale has largely been a bust so far. I hear Nioh 2 is a good game, but $10 is more than what I can get it for used, and other than that it's been, like, largely disliked games like Gotham Knights, Balan Wonderworld, Far Cry 6, snooze. Maybe it will pick up.

Today's $10 game is "Death Stranding: Director's Cut," and I thought, hey, I'd buy that for $10! Except I literally just bought it at Best Buy on sale for $20 five days ago, so I had to go back, return it for $20, then buy it again for $10, lol.

this is why you shouldn't buy games before you're ready to play them. the price can always go a bit lower

That's a good rule of thumb, and would keep my backlog in check. But I figure most games are never less than $10, new, and if/even when they drop lower, $10 or less is still a pretty low price to pay for basically anything. My personal impulse cutoff for games is $20, which is the lowest "Death Stranding: DC" has ever been in two years, which is why I figured, hey, why not?

don't be me, who bought the PS4 version of Death Stranding (original) for $30 thinking it was a bargain and never played it

Ha. Today I bought the PS4 version of Cyberpunk 2077 because it's got a free PS5 upgrade, and when the DLC comes out in September, supposedly a huge hunk of changes and improvements will be sent out for free to all versions. Who knows if I will ever play it.

(Answer: probably not.)

Should say I paid $5.

I have completed Death Stranding nearly twice on two different platforms, and finished Cyberpunk multiple times. So I'm helping the thread keep the balance.

Don't sleep on Death Strnading, it's fantastic. Slow to start, but that's part of it.

massive leaks coming out from the Xbox Activision case, someone fucked up the redaction i guess

xbox is becoming xcylinder

https://imgur.com/a/pHi74Dq

In which I learn (on page 2) that a next (current) gen Red Dead Redemption 2 is still on the table and also (on page 1) that there is a Microsoft employee named Matt Booty.

I take it back, this 2022 doc references Q2 FY2023, which was I guess something like July to September 2022. They're currently up to Q2 FY2024, so anything mentioned here is old news. Except for Matt Booty.

microsoft hard at work trying to suck even more than sony, i see

https://twitter.comy/brookgamingfans/status/1715337068401021284

let's try that again

Xbox console-related product Issue Update pic.twitter.com/QK0N41LmHW

— Brook Gaming (@brookgamingfans) October 20, 2023

i just ordered a Pi55 Slim directly off the Sony website. they claim it will be shipped to me in a few days. why yes that smug energy is coming directly from this post, why do you ask

Hot tip, if you buy two of them and stack them, it doubles the storage, and you can play two games at once. I call it the PS Phat, you should try it.

Make sure you get the one with the disc drive, feels like they're subtly trying to phase those out

Yeah I got the one with the drive. Otherwise I’d have no way to play my Cheers box set!

hah, nice.

Josh technically that's called the PS10.

Yeah, but on the street it's the PS Phat, or the Phat Stack. Everyone knows that.

Can't even remember the last time I put a disc in my PS5... glad I spent $100 to have a drive I don't use lol

Yeah I still haven't ever put a game in mine. Thought it'd be good to have a 4k BR drive though, and it sort of is, except it's so insanely loud when it spins up that I end up having to switch to headphones to stop the machine drowning out all the dialogue.

I use my drive for Blurays and it's not noisy at all except for a moment on start up

I got Spider-Man: Miles Morales on disk and it pretty much lives in my drive

As someone who only plays one game at a time, I use the disk drive all the time, depending on what I am playing. Alan Wake Remastered I just played on disc, Wolfenstein 2 I am playing digitally.

yeah, I'd read about the disc drive being noisy before buying my ps5 and was concerned but honestly it has been totally fine and not an issue.

I have however noticed recently that for some reason it can't play certain DVDs, I just get some error code and a message that it can't play that disc (DVD plays fine on a stand-alone DVD player). Not sure what's going on there.

I still mostly buy on disc (or disk? disk makes me think of a floppy disk) though. It's fun to still be able to give or lend a game to a friend once you're done with it.

I've found it fine for regular BR discs but it's specifically the 4k discs that send it into overdrive (do 4k discs spin faster than normal blurays? I mean I can imagine why they might need to but I've got no idea). It's not always loud straight away either, sometimes it'll be an hour into a film before it starts ramping up. Totally possible I've just got a duff one.

My PS5 plays 4K films pretty much silently after the initial spin up. The XBox X is much louder for that purpose.
I rarely buy any games on disc or otherwise unless deeply discounted.

I do appreciate being able to play lots of XBox 360 and some XBox games on disc on the series X as I have a good few of those.
The PS5 only seems to support PS4 & PS5 games on disc though.

I mostly rely on my gamepass or ps plus subscription for new things to play.
My backlog of games-to-play owned for older platforms and the PC is inhumanly long at this point.

PlayStation State of Play was pretty good this year

Romeo is a Dead Man, a suda51 game
Bloodstained 2
Digimon Cyber Sleuth sequel
Bennett Foddy's Baby Steps
Hirogami, an origami-based 3D platformer
Nioh 3
Sea of Remnants, looks like a pirate RPG?
Sword of the Sea, a skateboarding game from the Journey team
Marvel Tokon, a 4x4 fighting game from Arcsys

also Silent Hill f, which looks disappointing to be honest
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bYaEtALe00

the arcsys marvel game looks great. was just lamenting that there's no cool fighting games on the horizon at a time when i'm kind of itching to get back in with something new (the riot games one is not cool sorry)
new suda51 and bloodstained are cool

pirate game is sadly a f2p gacha game. thought for a moment that we already had our next expedition 33

Yeah I was like "Oh cool a Silent Hill game", but it doesn't look like there's anything particularly new or exciting going on really. Let alone scary

Well that gacha news is disappointing. And the trailer looked interesting.

The Baby Steps trailer, lol