The Nintendo Switch 2

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it is time

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itpcsQQvgAQ

ciderpress, Thursday, 16 January 2025 13:51 (one month ago) link

very surprised the mouse thing turned out to be true!

( X '____' )/ (zappi), Thursday, 16 January 2025 13:55 (one month ago) link

time to first look at it

lag∞n, Thursday, 16 January 2025 13:56 (one month ago) link

time to wait until april 2 for the important part (video games)

ciderpress, Thursday, 16 January 2025 13:57 (one month ago) link

slick to oh btw new mario cart

lag∞n, Thursday, 16 January 2025 13:58 (one month ago) link

I guess 3rd parties can start announcing games now?

( X '____' )/ (zappi), Thursday, 16 January 2025 13:59 (one month ago) link

Looks good! Sightly bigger. Better attachment mechanism for the joy cons

octobeard, Thursday, 16 January 2025 14:02 (one month ago) link

xp unless they want to be in the Direct, which they probably do

ciderpress, Thursday, 16 January 2025 14:04 (one month ago) link

roll on 4 february

secretary of state for fractal pluripotencies (||||||||), Thursday, 16 January 2025 14:36 (one month ago) link

time for 3 months of frenzied speculation about the 'c' button

feed me with your chips (zchyrs), Thursday, 16 January 2025 16:16 (one month ago) link

So, when I was really little, single-digits, we had a ColecoVision, but I don't remember what games we had for it. A tiny bit later we had an Atari 7800, and I remember playing ... Pole Position? Something like that. Both consoles I recall winning in a contest or something, or getting them for opening a bank account, back when that was a thing that happened. But the original NES, I know we got that when I was in my early teens, so like a lot of people my age (old) it was a cultural touchstone. I played the hell out of OG Super Mario Bros., OG Zelda, MegaMan, Contra, OG Castlevania, etc.. Those games and Nintendo in general were formative. Secrets, guides, codes, the whole thing, tons of fun.

For some reason, though, that was the end of the line for me, and I never got another console (from any company) until the GameCube. I played it a little, but don't remember spending much time with it. Same for the original Wii, which I know we owned but which I don't recall playing too much, for some reason. Fast forward again until I had kids and we bought a used Wii, which I hacked and stuffed full of easy-to-rip games, but besides Wii sports and the kids doing Just Dance or Animal Crossing, I don't recall much of what I played on it, either.

Long story short (but still long), I bought the Switch when it came out, making it for all purposes the first system I owned since the original NES that I spent any time with. I was excited, and played the hell out of Breath of the Wild and Smash Bros. and Mario Kart, plus a bunch of compelling new or new to me indies like Hollow Knight and Shovel Knight and Ori, but often times the system just felt kind of lacking, especially Nintendo titles; even my formerly Animal Crossing obsessed kid was disappointed by the Switch's Animal Crossing. Me, I'd missed out on decades of great games, and either the system was not capable of playing them, the games were not being ported, or when they were ported there were problems or delays; I recall Doom 2016 on the Switch being particularly disappointing, as was the delayed port rollout of Dark Souls Remastered. Once I bought the PS4, with its deeeeep bench of often deep discounted games, it was hard to go back to the premium-priced but (imo) often kinda disappointing or relatively slim-pickings must-have Nintendo titles, not to mention all the novelties, like the cardboard stuff or the remote control car stuff.

I still have the Switch, which is mostly used for Mario Kart, but other than that it hasn't really held my attention. I never really used it handheld, either, which kinda missed the point! Which is to say, Switch 2 is the epitome of a wait and see console. I suspect it will be a lot like the PS5 and feature tons of remasters, but few "exclusives," as such. I guess we'll see what an 8-year gap between consoles/designs allows Nintendo to do or offer.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 16 January 2025 16:25 (one month ago) link

Maybe now I'll finally get a cheap Switch 1.

Jordan s/t (Jordan), Thursday, 16 January 2025 16:31 (one month ago) link

The male controller ports on the sides of the console look... very breakable. Surprising design for a Nintendo product

Nhex, Thursday, 16 January 2025 16:35 (one month ago) link

roll on 4 february

I thought this too until seeing well afterwards that it's 2 April

Iain Mew (if), Thursday, 16 January 2025 16:45 (one month ago) link

I just skimmed past a rumor that the Switch 2 joysticks may be "hall effect," which I had never heard of but which sound super cool, whether or not this is the console that gets them. For sure I've had drift issues on both the Switch and Playstation but especially the Switch.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 16 January 2025 17:17 (one month ago) link

you can already get 3rd party controllers with those for current consoles. some of the newer 8bitdos have them

ciderpress, Thursday, 16 January 2025 19:23 (one month ago) link

can also buy hall sensor sticks and replace them yourself, did that to my launch joycons for £20 and it was pretty easy to do

( X '____' )/ (zappi), Thursday, 16 January 2025 19:46 (one month ago) link

mm/dd, reggie?! I’m out

secretary of state for fractal pluripotencies (||||||||), Thursday, 16 January 2025 19:57 (one month ago) link

gta 6 gonna debut on dis ting?

calstars, Thursday, 16 January 2025 20:32 (one month ago) link

prob not powerful enough

lag∞n, Thursday, 16 January 2025 20:46 (one month ago) link

depends how scalable it is, prob wouldnt happen before the pc version anyhow

ciderpress, Thursday, 16 January 2025 22:07 (one month ago) link

hope this thing has an OLED screen. after having been spoiled with the steam deck, i can't go back

diamonddave​85 (diamonddave85), Thursday, 16 January 2025 23:46 (one month ago) link

good chance they'll save that for a revision, but i hope so too

Nhex, Thursday, 16 January 2025 23:53 (one month ago) link

I can never figure out why some games were or could be ported to the Switch but not others. Doom and Doom Eternal and Wolfenstein 2, but not Wolfenstein: New Order. Dark Souls 1, but not 2 or 3. Witcher 3 and Skyrim and Bioshock 1-3, but not GTAV or Mass Effect. Super Mario Galaxy, but not Super Mario Galaxy 2. Ori games looked great, but the Batman games were reportedly a mess.

I think part is money and time or rights, what is worth it, but I suspect it has to do with power and sometimes simply how the code is written; I don't know anything about code, but I understand Nintendo can be tricky to write? I've seen a couple of vids, one on Wolfenstein 2 and one on Ori, about porting to the Switch, and sometimes it seems it takes a certain degree of ingenuity to figure out a way to make it work without making the console work too hard. Curious how much power this new one will or can pack.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 17 January 2025 00:11 (one month ago) link

Grand theft Mario when

calstars, Friday, 17 January 2025 00:13 (one month ago) link

My main question is will it be uncomfortable to hold like the regular Switch

the wedding preset (dog latin), Friday, 17 January 2025 01:00 (one month ago) link

are they going to forza horizon mario kart ? seems likely

secretary of state for fractal pluripotencies (||||||||), Friday, 17 January 2025 16:05 (one month ago) link

doubt it since it would detract from the pick up and play identity of it but they could do more dynamic stuff with the tracks changing lap to lap etc, i know they dabbled with that in the last one

ciderpress, Friday, 17 January 2025 16:12 (one month ago) link

i guess i could imagine how it would work like if each cup was its own map that had all 4 tracks on it and then a horizon mode where you can use it as a sandbox

ciderpress, Friday, 17 January 2025 16:15 (one month ago) link

maybe theyll have wonder flowers that make the tracks go all loony

lag∞n, Friday, 17 January 2025 18:30 (one month ago) link

how fast can nintendo switch 2 go? does nintendo switch 2 have automatic transmission? does nintendo switch 2 have four-wheel drive?

145 feet up in a Jeffrey Pine (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 17 January 2025 19:16 (one month ago) link

hope this thing has an OLED screen.

The leaks say it doesn’t. And they got literally everything else right, so chances are they’re right about that too.

Mariokart as a launch title obviously makes sense and it’s odd they haven’t done it before (it’s consistently their biggest or almost biggest selling game in each generation) but it’s hard to get excited about it. MK8 was sort of perfect already? It’s not a game that’ll benefit from better resolution or whatever and it’s already 60fps. And 8 had 96 courses by the end! Some of which came out recently enough that I’ve still only played them 3-4 times.

JimD, Friday, 17 January 2025 20:27 (one month ago) link

maybe they could add more to Kart than just more tracks and drivers
loved the missions/minigames in Kart DS, bring those back!

( X '____' )/ (zappi), Friday, 17 January 2025 20:30 (one month ago) link

one must assume they understand the challenges of following up MK8 after all those expansions and are going to have some big new gameplay hook in this one, even if it's not apparent from those 10 seconds of footage

there will be other launch titles as well, presumably including ones that show off the new gpu more (metroid prime 4?)

ciderpress, Friday, 17 January 2025 20:44 (one month ago) link

They frequently add gimmicks here or there (two characters per kart in Double Dash or the upside down driving in 8 or whatever) but the games are generally good in spite of those, not because of them.

JimD, Friday, 17 January 2025 20:46 (one month ago) link

realistic mortal injuries from shells

145 feet up in a Jeffrey Pine (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 17 January 2025 21:16 (one month ago) link

Double lol.

1) Inevitable Digital Foundry analysis, an hour long based on that 2-minute "reveal"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Pdx4GK4PSw

2) The first question/comment from a viewer named "Abadaba-Pling Boink Weeeee U," a name so ridiculous the hosts can't even keep a straight face.

(This, btw, is a trend I find endlessly hilarious from any channel that takes questions or comments from chats or texts or whatever. "Stinkybum420king asks a very good question ... "

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 19 January 2025 15:17 (one month ago) link

does USB-C mean we can maybe output to TV while still using the touch screen to allow wii U and NDS games on virtual console

secretary of state for fractal pluripotencies (||||||||), Saturday, 1 February 2025 11:30 (three weeks ago) link

feel like it would be against Nintendo's MO for switch to have games that only work with a tv

ciderpress, Saturday, 1 February 2025 15:54 (three weeks ago) link

also they've rereleased almost all the good wii u games on switch already, whats even left?

ciderpress, Saturday, 1 February 2025 16:01 (three weeks ago) link

ds is more compelling but you can do most of them on one screen since the second screen is often just a status/map screen and can be put as an inset, e.g. see that castlevania ds collection thats on switch

ciderpress, Saturday, 1 February 2025 16:07 (three weeks ago) link

i think on switch 2 you'll even have the vertical resolution to be able to stack the two screens vertically at 2x scale

ciderpress, Saturday, 1 February 2025 16:25 (three weeks ago) link

what if you can attach 2 switch 2s together and make a giant ds

adam t (dat), Sunday, 2 February 2025 15:15 (three weeks ago) link

switch 4

lag∞n, Sunday, 2 February 2025 15:16 (three weeks ago) link

snake should be a launch game and it should be the definitive version of it - meaning, with a high score list that persists from gaming session to gaming session using save technology

z_tbd, Sunday, 2 February 2025 18:29 (three weeks ago) link

you can already access the global high score list by walking your Mii to Snakelist Cave on Wuhu Island

145 feet up in a Jeffrey Pine (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 3 February 2025 16:49 (two weeks ago) link

(you'll need to touch your Tingle Amiibo to open the gate)

145 feet up in a Jeffrey Pine (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 3 February 2025 16:51 (two weeks ago) link

I just played Mario Wonder for the first time and noticed that my controller plays musical notes when Mario steps on a keyboard – has it always done that and been able to play sound??? I think I’ve played lots of games that rumble but never any that actually make noises. Maybe I’ve just been playing the wrong games

Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, 4 February 2025 11:10 (two weeks ago) link

the switch's "HD rumble" is essentially just passing a sound wave through an actuator in the controller so you can do stuff like that with the right sound wave yeah

very few games use it in that way though

ciderpress, Tuesday, 4 February 2025 13:56 (two weeks ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/CzrgLag.png

z_tbd, Saturday, 15 February 2025 18:02 (one week ago) link


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