Of Deathclaws & Radscorpions: A Fallout Thread

F'rinstance, that's how I found out about the books Earth Abides(1948 book about a return to tribalism after a virus wipes out the planet) and A Canticle for Leibowitz(where the idea for the Cathedral in FO1 came from). Note that both books take place in the Western part of the U.S., same as with the first two Fallout games.

the "see you at vault 69" cheesecake one was for a while, too.

plus, it's cool to see the design notes for Fallout 3. Like using screengrabs from the Road Warrior to instruct the production artists...

the fact that it was farmed out to a different gamedev probably didn't help, among other things.

but you can get both games from p2p, and thru ebay/amazon/macplay, etc

the game engine needed more work, too

I was very disappointed in Arcanum. It was a good idea and had good story bits in it, but the actual gameplay was executed so poorly that it was hardly worth playing. I was expecting another Fallout, but it didn't happen.

other fun: in FO2, when you're in the Bucanneer's Den town, you know how the kids pick your pocket? Just remove everything from your inventory except for a think of plastique or dynamite with the timer set. The little scamps pick your stash, then get a nasty shock 30-60 seconds later, and you don't even get in trouble! So handy.

WHAT

AAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HURRY UP AND RELEASE IT BETHESDA

(Fallout 3: YAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAY)

http://www.fallout3.phx.pl/ie_twojbohater_karma.htm

http://www.fallout3.phx.pl/obrazki/perki/pornstar.jpg

http://www.fallout3.phx.pl/obrazki/perki/jetadict.jpg

http://www.fallout3.phx.pl/obrazki/perki/psycho.jpg
You have a chem addition. If you do not take Psycho on a regular schedule, you will suffer. If you do, others will suffer.

http://www.fallout3.phx.pl/obrazki/perki/tragic.jpg
You feel a burning desire to open another box of tragic cards.

http://www.fallout3.phx.pl/obrazki/perki/sexpert.jpg

Also, does anybody know why this game is apparently such a cult hit in Poland?
http://www.fallout3.phx.pl/obrazki/perki/virgin.jpg
Virgin of the Wastes

Alternatively, it may be the gigolo picture, which my 14-year-old ass ALSO was in Fallout 2. But I remember that one having a mustache because I remember thinking "why does it have a mustache?"

I also remember the tragic cards. They were fricking awesome. Their full name was something like Tragic: The Saddening or something. And they all had sad things on them. You didn't get to look at them, though. But your guy could get addicted to opening booster packs.

Maybe....................

I think I'm going to have to give up at some point, my head is being seriously wrecked.

god I would love a MMORPG of this. I have so much fun having huge gunfights and doing lots of drugs.

also, make sure you get the fan-patch.

i can't remember if food does anything. check gamefaqs or SA or something.

That is all. Good tip on the square though. Will try that cheers.

Beat this today.... dumb ending, isn't it?

Somebody else mentioned that Bethesda didn't exactly know how to handle the faction system like Obsidian did, and the ending sorta bears that out. Oh well. Steam says I've played 200 hours of this game(probably about 80-85% accurate since I would leave the game paused once in a while), and I'm burned out for a while. Let's see what the DLC will bring.

....oh and I got a Vault 111 fleece jumpsuit(read: Fallout-y pajamas) for Xmas, and damn if it ain't comfy.

http://www.pcgamer.com/see-the-old-pulp-sci-fi-magazine-that-inspired-fallout-4/

Lord help me I was actually amused by this

https://www.facebook.com/00vaultboy00/photos/a.424305227587307.99199.423832787634551/1126200187397804/?type=1&theater

http://i.imgur.com/xRQXrYj.jpg

back to the past, here:

if playing new vegas from the beginning again, and i have all the dlc packs, which should i do and when? are there any i should go through before finishing the main game, and what order after completion?

You can't continue anything after finishing the main game iirc, so all of them. They're all for high-ish levels but you get a warning and told the recommended level before you start them. I don't think the order mattered much, but I remember being driven half crazy by Dead Money.

Dead Money I didn't like, yeah

Dead Money, the only Fallout thing I have now actually cheated in because FUCK THOSE GHOST DUDES

http://www.rpgcodex.net/content.php?id=10267

The codex people are v. well informed about rpg history and design, but that site is such a reactionary cesspool politically.

That review is spot on

it really is

i probably put more time into F4 than any other AAA game in the last year and i wish i could have all the hours back

I'm torn; one the one hand, I had fun with my two months of FO4. On the other, there was a lot of bullshit and Bethesda seems to learn all the wrong things from what Obsidian was able to advance

Yeah I like being the world but not necessarily playing the game, if that makes sense.. its a hoarding and shooting simulator

been playing a lot of underrail, the retro indie rpg fans on the codex call "fallout 3" (one way street otm btw that place is like a fascist cell, depressing). conventional wisdom is that it has great skills/combat/crafting but the writing is lacking (compared to recent story-heavy stuff like age of decadence, the demo of which bored me stiff, and pillars of eternity, thirty hours of which bored me stiff) but i actually enjoy the writing a lot: there isn't very much of it (aha) and it's cliches, but characters (read: shopkeepers) are vivid enough for you to feel that you live in the place even if it doesn't have fallout 1 (let alone 2's) variety and scope. really the setting is closer to ultima underworld: one big dungeon peppered with communities of shopkeepers. (sneaking around facilities on the other hand recalls deus ex of all things: lockpicks, computer terminals, ventilation shafts.)

combat meanwhile is great, lots to do, lots to build to do it. much better, without hesitation, than fallout's, which was always either numbingly, prolongedly easy or impossible. audience is definitely hardcore 90s rpg fans (who are apparently also all fascists) so difficulty is v unforgiving -- not just the combat but the ease w which you can build an unworkable character (i didn't get anywhere until my third guy) -- though the experience system is terrific, and sneak-friendly: you only get it for picking up "oddities", sometimes carried by enemies but also hidden in locked containers and obscure trash piles and etc., so it's less slanted towards guns-blazing grinders than you'd think considering it's one giant dungeon crawl.

as for fallout 4 btw i haven't played it since the survival-mode patch or tried any of the dlc but about the release game at least the detractors were ultimately otm; codex piece linked upthread for instance is unchallengably damning. fun place to hang out for a while tho.

Now I have a good enough pc I want to play 4, having loved 3 and Vegas. Is anyone still playing? Recommend?

my recommendation is that you definitely play 4, especially if you like 3/NV. it is terrific.

it's worth at least skimming the rpgcodex review a little upthread, which is pretty much otm

i played all the main quest missions and a good chunk of the side missions and it was diverting but never particularly surprising. not nearly as good as new vegas imo, which remains my favourite of the newer fallouts

yes definitely read the depressing 80,000 word diatribe before starting, I personally never start a game without convincing myself it's a abomination to man and god first

there are a lot of games out there which are really fun in the beginning but the longer you play them the more glaring their faults become. this probably describes most games. u see this a lot in steam reviews - someone will have 80+ hours played in a game but the review is terribly negative.

Yes the general opinion of most just seems to be that it's a crap RPG but a great open world game.

It's 50% as well, so it's in the bag.

50% off I meant

I mostly regret the time I spent in F4. I agree with whoever said that it's a very lonely experience.

With some interminable tasks like structure / town building

Game is worth playing, but a step down story wise and construction from New Vegas.

It's a fun place to visit. Definitely worth playing if you can get it on sale? I dunno I played a fuckton and then all of a sudden hit a wall and got bored with it - unfortunately after I sprung for the season pass. I keep telling myself I'm gonna dip back in but haven't yet..

i've been playing fallout 4 for a few months now and i'm starting to get tired of it and there's still a ton of the world i haven't even seen yet. it's funny how none of the new stuff is really mandatory so it ends up feeling exactly like fallout 3/new vegas unless you opt into that stuff. i've only done the structure/town building a couple of times when it was required for a mission and i almost never use power armor. i've got like five sets of power armor stashed around the map but i never really feel like i need to use it.

it seems pretty even in quality with 3 and new vegas to me, which still shades as a disappointment for a next-gen game. it doesn't even really look much better than those games, and it's just as glitchy. i've still gotten a lot of fun out of it though.

I enjoyed it while I played it but I accidentally stumbled into fighting for a different faction than the one I wanted to, and while I keep meaning to go back to it I just never do... Could never be bothered with the building stuff and I'm the same with power armour, like I'd store it for when I *needed* it but then just go ahead and not use it anyway

I enabled infinite ammo and it makes the game much more fun imo

Still haven't finished this shit tho

i think maybe it's ... too big? i play a lot of open-world games but i think after this i'll need to play something more linear to take a break

i was reading that critical essay up there and it mentions so many things i haven't even seen yet

I have yet to get this and I'm a little intimidated now!

Is there a PS4 version with all the DLC crap yet, or are they still chunking out DLC?

My approach on these, if the game allows it, is to take a linear path through to the end, and then run around doing other junk for fun, little clean-up quests. If the narrative branches a lot, then I'll play through a second time instead of doing things post-game, and not concentrate on getting to the end.

I just remember figuring out back in the Fallout 2 days that there was one gun store that had a fully-stocked basement, a single dude working there, and virtually no penalty for taking him out as soon as possible. Running around the wasteland and just blasting everyone after that was a joy.

I think that's the thing that was missing from Fallout 3. It really needed a trail of venomous candy just under the surface urging you to become a complete sociopath. The promise of reconciling with your father, who is a force for good in the world, is bullshit. It's a dog-eat-dogmeat world out there. Even if you help your people, they'll end up exiling you anyway.

i basically already said this but i think if you enjoyed fallout 3/new vegas and are ok with a game that doesn't really add much new to those games except a new story and slightly better graphics, getting fallout 4 is worth it. i think i paid like $20 for a used copy and i don't have any regrets.

I'm enjoying what little I've played, made a big mistake of looting loads and not saving - then dieing. Kinda stopped me from loading it up for a bit. I'll return, wiser.

The amount of mental memory these kids of games required is pretty great. It's almost like having a job

oh for heavens sake. I just spent 7 levels not realising i could activate the greyed out perks. So now my Strength is maxed out, but who cares.

flip side, I am enjoying it. Love the weapon crafting and half enjoying base building although don't see much point in it - at least gives me some reason to loot the shit out of anything though.

But yeah filling my fallout 3 thirst.

Flip again..

Some annoying glitch with mouse menu selection, why hasn't that been fixed?

Dialogue stuff is awful lol

Annoying dogmeat is annoying.

Not being able to update the radio playlists without disabling achievements is some bullshit imo

has anyone tried any of the dlc for 4?

Haven't. Supppsedly better than the main story, but that's it surprising.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VUETYy0Sbo

https://deadline.com/2022/02/fallout-walton-goggins-star-prime-videos-tv-series-ghoul-kilter-films-jonathan-nolan-1234956734/amp/

me: don't do a fallout tv series
amazon: goggins is playing a ghoul
me: please do the fallout tv series

he's got the face for it

Enjoying the series, I mean it's not setting my world on fire (ha) but still entertaining to me as a fallout fan.

I was worried with how stacked with REFERENCES the first episode was, but it soon goes its own way.
I was surprised by how much of the show came from the very first game.

Yeah, I enjoyed the series. I did think they had too many mystery plot arcs to reveal in the finale, but overall the series was worthwhile.

I’m curious how they’ll integrate the characteristic fauna of the universe. We had a radbear and a radroach and a radaxotl? But no death laws or supermutants yet