do i want an xbox 360?

Convinced?

HAHAHA! Good old DOA.

belay that shit
http://www.1up.com/media?id=2311175&type=lg

Problem:

# Amped 3 (2K Sports)
# Call of Duty 2 (Activision)
# Condemned: Criminal Origins (SEGA)
# FIFA Soccer 06 Road to 2006 FIFA World Cup (Electronic Arts)
# GUN (Activision)
# Kameo: Elements of Power (Microsoft Game Studios)
# Madden NFL 06 (Electronic Arts)
# NBA 2K6 (2K Sports)
# NBA LIVE 06 (Electronic Arts)
# Need for Speed Most Wanted (Electronic Arts)
# NHL 2K6 (2K Sports)
# Perfect Dark Zero (Microsoft Game Studios)
# Peter Jackson's King Kong: The Official Game of the Movie (Ubisoft)
# Project Gotham Racing 3 (Microsoft Game Studios)
# Quake 4 (Activision)
# Ridge Racer 6 (Namco)
# Tiger Woods PGA TOUR 06 (Electronic Arts)
# Tony Hawk's American Wasteland (Activision)

BORING.

Project Gotham Racing 3 sounds and looks about as entertaining as a Nissan advertisement.

Though honestly as Penny Arcade & 1UP have pointed out, a lot of the best stuff available on launch happens to be the downloadable content you can just buy for cheap on Live.

Replace "Nissan" with "Ferrari" and "advertisement" with "photorealistic depiction thereof" and you're almost right. Just because you're not into racing games doesn't mean it's not the nicest-looking racing game fucking ever, with Lamborghini Countaches and shit.

But hell, sit tight, you'll get your elf-addled RPGs and candy-ass Disney/Square crossover games eventually.

I kid. The other PGRs sucked though.

Burnout 3 < Burnout Revenge
the Nurburgring in PGR 2 > you

The Actual Games all look kinda bleh, but Nick bought the thing not me - I'm gonna stick to Hexic and Frogger! and Uno! and Geometry Wars!

Yeah what is with that power supply!? It is so big we had to give over a large bit of shelf, just for it. I hope it isnt some kind of fire risk.

As much as I like the notion of mall zombie fun, the commerical makes Deadrising look like dookie.

BUT I WILL!!!

i would preferrably like to have some games included, not just the core system. PC World sell it for £199

£300 it is then.

Also D/Led the Ninety-Nine Nights demo. Dynasty Warriors + more $$$$ = purty button-mashing.

PRICE DROP NOW (OR BEFORE I MOVE)!

the answer is yes i do want one!

but i'm getting cold feet, and i want to make sure i'm getting the right thing. i read some dirt on the new "jasper" chip: basically that they weren't going to roll them out until all old RRoD prone boxes are gone.

the way to tell you've got a good one, so i read, is to make sure it was manufactured after Aug 08 and has a power supply below 175 watts. is this at all true?

i don't want to dig thru a bunch of game sites so if anyone has a quick lowdown that's be awz

so you're going to make me dig through a bunch of game sites instead.

wiki says it all anyway:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xbox_360_hardware#Motherboards

hm now that is no help. and i went at read a bunch of game sites anyway.

this:

http://joeygadget.com/2008/09/29/jasper-equipped-xbox-360s-arrive-manufacturing-date-lot-and-team-details-revealed/

says also that the unit must be Lot 8031 or later, or "Team CSON" whateverthefuck that is

this: http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=901401 says that

So how do you know if the Xbox 360 you're about to buy is a Jasper model or not? Well, there's one blatantly-obvious method, and that's to open the box and check the manufacturing date on the back of the console itself, it's shown in YYYY-MM-DD format. It's believed that consoles manufactured on or after August 31st (2008-08-31) will feature the Jasper revision - though, this hasn't yet been confirmed. The later the console was manufactured after this date, the better the chance is that you may get a Jasper.

If that process seems like too much hard work, there could be another way, too. Flip the box over, and you should find a flap with a serial number located beneath it. The serial number will be in the format LNNNNNNYWWFF, where the Y is thought to represent the year of manufacture, and the WW is thought to represent the week - if the theory is to be believed. August 31st translates to week 35, so you'd be looking for a serial number somewhere along the lines of LNNNNNN'835'FF. This is by no means a foolproof option but it could be worthy of consideration when making a purchase.

so basically it's a lot of aspie rumormongering and theorizing and nobody has one yet.

so i'm going to be waiting a while. merry christmas goole!

A year ago they were saying the last new model was the one to get. I don't think one new, slightly smaller chip is really going to make that much of a difference - the only real difference is that it's a little cheaper for Microsoft, I think. The 360 design is still basically flawed. They've made some improvements, I guess, adding a heat sink or something a year or two ago. It seems like the rate of RROD has gone down - I certainly don't hear about it as much. All I mean to say, if you want one, there's no need to hold out for this mysterious jasper chip, or even worry about it - just buy a 360, they're about as good as they're going to get, unless Microsoft eventually does a semi-complete redesign (like Sony did with ps2). So your box may have some tiny percent greater chance of having problems than if you hold out and worry about getting one with the latest greatest new chip deal. It's not like if you do get one with the new chip, there's any kind of gaurantee it won't have problems. And if it does have problems it's not too big of a deal - three year warranty for rrod and one year warranty for other problems.

As somebody who has to analyse the refund data on these things, I can honestly say that anything with an HDMI port is going to be pretty safe. Failures on post-HDMI machines are no higher than on any other current gen console. In other words, Jeff OTM. Just buy one.

A brilliant chap by the name of Leyvin from the mean streets of Coventry England left a very detailed comment on Microsoft's Gamerscore blog about the new Xbox dashboard or NXE. A Google search collaborates that he is an technical artist at Rare.co.uk (So he probably worked on Avatars and knows a thing or two about the NXE). Bravo! Bully post old boy!

Leyvin of Rare writes:

NXE will be available free, as all previous updates have been. When you sign in after release, you will be shown the usual "There is an update for XBOX LIVE" message. This update will take longer than normal, so installation might take a short while.

Some ISPs that have difficulties with larger downloads may timeout, but as always it will packaged with newly released titles as well as on the XBOX.com website burnable to disc.

All the languages currently supported will continue to be supported by NXE. Those outside of North America however may not have access to the NetFlix or Primetime services, just a friendly heads-up on that. As deals need to be made on a per-country basis.

If you do not have a Hard Disk (XBOX Arcade Console), you will still be able to recieve the update... however any cached data will be removed upon shutdown/restart of your console. So for those with limited bandwidth we recommend aquiring a Hard Disk. Currently the 20GB model is available for about the price of a game, so might be worth picking one up now if you don't already have one.

The background of NXE is fully customisable, allowing you to set many options to your own preferences. NXE is all about improving your XBOX Experience, and customisation of your dashboard is one of these that has recieved particular focus.

All of your previously purchased themes and gamerpics are still fully compatible, and will work seemlessly with the NXE Dashboard. You have the choice to not only choose Gamerpic or Avatar but use both at the same time if you choose to... although perhaps your mug from the Vision cam was nice as a gamerpic, the results on a T-Shirt sometimes aren't flattering ;)

All of the resources on NXE, particularly via Marketplace will download at varying quality levels to allow for quicker loading times on slower connections or at peak times. Everything is also cached to the Hard Disk, meaning once it's on your XBOX itself it will load instantly until updated on LIVE using no additional bandwidth.

There will be a meeting on the 15th that developers have been asked to attend that outlines some of the new media requirements for NXE Marketplace, this includes the possible inclusion of their marketplace media on-disc along with the system update.

The maintaince update on September 29th 2008 was in order to update the current LIVE servers for NXE and the Holiday period influx of new subscribers. In-particular the addition of number of servers for games and marketplace storage.

While advertisment will still be present, they will now be individually accessible from the top-menu of each section. It is felt this form of advertisment will be less intrusive as not to distract you from what you want to do, while having enough presence to make you want to check them out. What is nice about the new advertisement design, is that they no longer feel the main aspect of a page; instead they blend really well with the overall experience. Feeling more like "points-of-interest" rather than billboard like... there is also more space for advertisement now you can select them individually which provides more space for information if you choose to check it out.

As far as games go, there are a number of aspects that are changing within this new update. There is a meeting on the 15th to explain these to developers, as well as the additions to the certification process. Specific options like VSync however will still be done at the developers discression. It is suggested that you contact the particular developer/publisher about issues with their titles, or suggestions on improving the experience.

As far as music goes, there is a big change to the XBOX Audio system coming that includes the media playback. Any suggestions are welcome and should be sent to the XBOX Team, either via e-mail or the XBOX Team blog. Improving your experience is the key goal of everyone at Microsoft.

Marketplace searching is definately a feature that would be good to have available. Especially due to the amount of content now present. The preset menus do help finding the content much easier now, obviously though having a search system similar to Windows Vista would improve the experience even more. This said there is a particular issue with performance for such a task. Windows users are used to waiting for searchs while people on consoles are not.

You may yet see this feature implimented or atleast some form of easier sorting/quick-selection system.

That isn't to say it definately is there, but it is being looked in to. It might not be present in the initial release, you are likely to see this added later. If this is implimented you can be sure it won't be limited to just those who own the chatpad, however that will make it a damn sight easier. ;)

There is not yet a set date for release for NXE, there are number of issues with the LIVE Servers themselves that need addressing prior to release. You might still be experiencing some problems with LIVE since the maintainance, and recent short downtimes being experienced in-particular. Once these issues have been addressed, setting a more specific release date can be assurtained.

There are teething problems with all new systems, however there are many people working hard to try and minimize these issues. Despite the NXE as a dashboard basically be completed and currently being tested, there are a number of features that are still being finished.
It is almost finished just hang in there!

Enjoy the build up coverage over the next month, as there is more that will be shown off as it gets closer to release.

^copypastad from another forum

the answer is yes i do want one!

but i'm getting cold feet, and i want to make sure i'm getting the right thing. i read some dirt on the new "jasper" chip: basically that they weren't going to roll them out until all old RRoD prone boxes are gone.

the way to tell you've got a good one, so i read, is to make sure it was manufactured after Aug 08 and has a power supply below 175 watts. is this at all true?

i don't want to dig thru a bunch of game sites so if anyone has a quick lowdown that's be awz

― goole, Monday, October 6, 2008 9:13 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

dont bother. ive had mine for over a year and ive used it maybe ..10 times? id rather play old tony hawk games on my ps2 than have to deal with that retarded controller

Hello 2005!

If you hate the 360 controller and like the PS2 controller you need to buy the Madkatz micro-controller, it's not perfect but it's closer to waht is awesome

Why do people hate the 360 controller? It seems pretty inoffensive to me. The PS2/3 controller is better, but not by that much.

the d pad is terrible. i get cramping in my left hand if i hold it longer than 30 mins (this is probably only me though)

I don't think I play any games that use the d-pad much.

the d pad is being revised soon

but yeah, what games use it? SF2?

ok so my (third) 360 rrod'd on me in june 2008. that's nearly four years ago. i said fuck it and bought a ps3 which i love dearly and has never given me problems.

i felt like i should play fez b/c the giant bomb dorks were freaking out about it and started looking into how much it would cost to have my 360 repaired. while doing so i found a video where a dude demonstrates a quick rrod fix, figured i'd give it a shot.

in accordance with the instructions i turned my 360 upside down, applied a good amount of pressure (i put it on the ground and, while sitting, put my foot on it and pressed down) and turned it on. NO RED RINGS. i plugged it in to the tv and IT FUCKING WORKS. of course the batteries in my wireless controller have corroded the shit out of its little controller guts so i gotta get a new one but fuck, man, now i have FOUR YEARS of now-cheap 360 exclusives to play. WHAT TO GET.

(currently using a usb keyboard to update the system software and stuff, 4 years worth of OS updates)

i'm so psyched yall, tell me what to buy. deadly premonition? metro 2033? the witcher 2?????? fez? is fez actually any good? trials?

fez is not really grabbing me.
def want witcher 2 once i finally finish dark souls. so 2014 i think.

i play ~20 min of fez the other night. it's clever and i like the look of it, but i'm worried it's going to be a lot of 'oops, i must have missed a key/cube bit ten minutes ago, so know i need to backtrack and rotate perspective for each little area'.

but that's rad that your xbox works.

If you're getting Trials you might as well get the new one. It's just as good.

today i am going to endure gamestop and purchase banjo-kazooie: nuts and bolts, fable 2 and halo:odst (as halo reach still costs $$$). are any of these terrible?

and hell yeah i'ma get trials evolution, that looks fun as hell.

I still want a modern console, but now just to play RDR and the Scott Pilgrim game and maybe the Double Fine stuff. I think everything else eventually comes out on Steam.

Instead of buying some old games at Gamestop why not just get Gamefly.

freaked out again :( think i gotta go full nerd and do some resoldering, sucks as trials evolution is fucking nuts