what is the hardest video game you've ever played?

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SLUTSPIRIA (Adrian Langston), Monday, 21 August 2006 20:10 (nineteen years ago)

Ninja Gaiden series.
Ghosts N' Goblins/Ghouls N' Ghosts series.

Marmot (marmotwolof), Monday, 21 August 2006 20:14 (nineteen years ago)

TMNT 1 for the Nintendo is nigh impossible.

polyphonic (polyphonic), Monday, 21 August 2006 22:06 (nineteen years ago)

Jack and the Beanstalk on the ZX Spectrum.

Pier Paolo Semolina (noodle vague), Monday, 21 August 2006 22:14 (nineteen years ago)

Oh god, yeah I never got even close to beating the first TMNT as a kid. I'd be lucky to just get past the water level.

Marmot (marmotwolof), Monday, 21 August 2006 22:16 (nineteen years ago)

Ultima 1 when I was a kid. I played that thing for a whole summer, beat it and was SO pissed that it wasn't more satisfying.

Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Monday, 21 August 2006 22:19 (nineteen years ago)

Infocom's Spellbreaker is the toughest fair & enjoyable game I've played

Lemmings gets mighty difficult towards the end, although some of the levels are unfair timing challenges. I never beat every stage.

Olde platformers with no saves/passwords, I consider unfair.

a.b. (alanbanana), Monday, 21 August 2006 22:36 (nineteen years ago)

Jack and the Beanstalk so OTM

Ste (Fuzzy), Monday, 21 August 2006 23:29 (nineteen years ago)

What's that PC game that is entirely on one screen, with only one button to press, with four layers, and on the first one you need to jump over pits with perfect timing, and on the second you have to chop down trees, etc?

a.b. (alanbanana), Tuesday, 22 August 2006 00:14 (nineteen years ago)

Battletoads is up there.

ALLAH FROG (Mingus Dew), Tuesday, 22 August 2006 01:53 (nineteen years ago)

Goonies 2

Darramouss (Darramouss ftw), Tuesday, 22 August 2006 12:10 (nineteen years ago)

funny thing about battletoads: in 2p mode in one of the later stages, the second player cannot control their character at all. apparently the playtesters never made it that far with two players.

a.b. (alanbanana), Tuesday, 22 August 2006 19:40 (nineteen years ago)

tmnt 1 for nes is pretty fcking easy if you master the underwater area

Machibuse '80 (ex machina), Wednesday, 23 August 2006 06:56 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, I can get past the underwater level every time, but after that I just wind up getting lost eventually and don't know where to go, so I've never completed it. I should just look up a walkthrough I guess.

I never got past the 3rd level on Chase HQ, so that gets my vote.

Craig Gilchrist (Craig Gilchrist), Wednesday, 23 August 2006 07:22 (nineteen years ago)

Project X on the Amiga was a toughie

Just getting over the first jump in Army Moves on the speccy also proved a challenge in its day.

Ste (Fuzzy), Wednesday, 23 August 2006 07:27 (nineteen years ago)

There must be hundreds of MAME games where I've started, died, started, died, given up, so any of those might count as the hardest Iv'e ever played (definitely R-Type and anything similar would be in that category...I never got past the first stage of Sexy Parodius).

But I think the hardest game I've played and finished is Tony Hawks 3. Most of it was fairly easy, but the very last challenge (500,000 on the cruise ship, I think) took me about 3 months during which I was playing an hour each night and gradually doing a bit better each time (which meant I never got bored with it). It's definitely the biggest sense of achievement I've ever got out of a game completion.

JimD (JimD), Wednesday, 23 August 2006 11:27 (nineteen years ago)

Someone mentioned Ninja Gaiden on the XBox and yes that gave me problems as well.

Darramouss (Darramouss ftw), Wednesday, 23 August 2006 12:15 (nineteen years ago)

Insert every first-person shooter ever here.

Jesus Dan (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 23 August 2006 12:51 (nineteen years ago)

(Also I beat that first TMNT game, haha)

Jesus Dan (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 23 August 2006 12:51 (nineteen years ago)

Two player Battletoads always ended up in the hilarity of beating each other to death with giant fist/boot, or wrecking ball, robot legs, etc etc anyways! Classic!

ALLAH FROG (Mingus Dew), Thursday, 24 August 2006 05:49 (nineteen years ago)

fuckin' Battletoads. I used my Game Genie to turn invincibility on, and I still couldn't beat it (some bullshit ridiculous jetpack level with an absurd time limit -- this was on the Gameboy version, for the record)

bernard snow (sixteen sergeants), Friday, 25 August 2006 17:39 (nineteen years ago)

Am I a massive wuss if I say that I'm playing Kingdom Hearts 2 on hard and it's whupping my ass thus far?

Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Friday, 25 August 2006 17:43 (nineteen years ago)

You're a massive wuss if you say you're playing Kingdom Hearts 2 at all!

Darramouss (Darramouss ftw), Friday, 25 August 2006 18:16 (nineteen years ago)

also:

getting an S ranking for the final boss battle in DMC3: arguably one of the proudest moments of my life

starting a new game on Hard and getting my ass handed to me by the second level: robbed me of all the happiness I derived from that

bernard snow (sixteen sergeants), Friday, 25 August 2006 18:27 (nineteen years ago)

RYGAR

captain reverend gandalf jesus (nickalicious), Friday, 25 August 2006 19:46 (nineteen years ago)

"Darramouss", you don't know about true love.

Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Friday, 25 August 2006 21:16 (nineteen years ago)

Odama

Christopher Costello (CGC), Friday, 25 August 2006 21:24 (nineteen years ago)

RYGAR

If you mean the NES one, I totally pwned at that game. It was the second NES game I ever had, after The Legend of Zelda (I had the base system that only came with a the Nintendo Player's Guide. No SMB/Duck Hunt, Gyromite/Duck Hunt or anything) There's a place early in the game where it's real easy to level up completely, that helps. I don't remember the name of the area, but it's a place where you climb up a rope and kill this big dude. You can climb down and up again and he'll respawn. Just kill him over and over.

The PS2 remake was SUPER EASY.

Marmot (marmotwolof), Saturday, 26 August 2006 03:34 (nineteen years ago)

Ah, GAMEFAQS has the answer, this is what I meant:

One of the best places in the game to get experience quick is in the flying stone islands of Lapis, and you can get to it as soon as you have the grappling hook. Head as far right as you can and launch the grappling hook up to climb to the next screen. You'll be attacked by a lone robot. It'll take many hits to kill but it's worth lots of experience. Then enter the nearby door and when you exit the robot will be back. Kill it again and repeat the process and eventually you'll be strong enough to finish it (and anything else) in a single hit.

Marmot (marmotwolof), Saturday, 26 August 2006 03:37 (nineteen years ago)

I've been reluctant to post to this thread with a game made within the last year, because it's obviously not true, but ODAMA on the Gamecube is the most obnoxiously difficult bastard of a game I can think of. The frustration of not being able to see anything on my tiny telly* coupled with the voice recognition functions has added several hundred variations of "fucking cunt" to my vocabulary.

* I have just got a new TV, so I might actually give this game another go later, when I'm less likely to suddenly snap and smash a brand new telly.

melton mowbray's APOCALYPTO! (adr), Saturday, 26 August 2006 13:03 (nineteen years ago)

dodonpachi dai ou jou

Will M. (Will M.), Saturday, 26 August 2006 17:04 (nineteen years ago)

Surely this one is up there:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/d/d6/Deadly2.gif/250px-Deadly2.gif

def zep (calstars), Saturday, 26 August 2006 17:11 (nineteen years ago)

deadly fuckin towers. Def. Kryptonite.

Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Sunday, 27 August 2006 04:25 (nineteen years ago)

Solomon's Key is the hardest fairest that kept my love until we beat it, I think? ("there's no 'I' in 'Team Solomon's Key'" etc) (Cheat answer = nethack I guess) (I love hard games SO MUCH)

Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Monday, 28 August 2006 14:53 (nineteen years ago)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solomon%27s_Key

Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Monday, 28 August 2006 14:55 (nineteen years ago)

MegaMan tied with MegaMan 2.
Megaman is just STUPID hard.
Megaman 2 PRETENDS to let you get somewhere, then FUCKING KILLS YOU WITH NO REMORSE.

The GZeus (The GZeus), Monday, 28 August 2006 19:20 (nineteen years ago)

Isn't ODAMA that game where player 2 plays the bongos or whatever?

captain reverend gandalf jesus (nickalicious), Monday, 28 August 2006 20:50 (nineteen years ago)

1. Are older games, as a rule, harder than games of more recent vingtage?

1a. If so, is it because better technology generally allows for game that's more adaptive to different skillz levels, or sommat? Like, better game physics allows players to master a game without spending hours simply refining muscle memory?

c('°c) (Leee), Monday, 28 August 2006 21:05 (nineteen years ago)

I think you have a good point Lee but it's probably also the fact that easier games sell better I would say. :/

I thought Earth Bound was hard when I was ten.

Jessie the Monster (scarymonsterrr), Monday, 28 August 2006 21:29 (nineteen years ago)

Isn't ODAMA that game where player 2 plays the bongos or whatever?

I was about to reply to this with "I don't think so", but last night I dreamt it was. I don't know what to think anymore :(

melton mowbray's APOCALYPTO! (adr), Tuesday, 29 August 2006 10:52 (nineteen years ago)

1. Are older games, as a rule, harder than games of more recent vingtage?

Speccy games were sooo hard. But the time it took to load the damn tapes meant I'd always put in that extra bit of effort before giving up and loading something else.

Ste (Fuzzy), Tuesday, 29 August 2006 11:26 (nineteen years ago)

Actually, I'm not sure I buy my original premise, at least not categorically, because the fighting game genre has completely left me in the dust. Marvel vs. Capcom -- 6-character tag-team?? 28-hit air juggle/super combos? Maybe that's just me, cos I never could pull off two-in-ones or the Spinning Piledriver in Street Fighter II.

c('°c) (Leee), Tuesday, 29 August 2006 15:14 (nineteen years ago)

Megaman 2 isn't that hard until you get to Wiley levels. Just have some fucking patience.... there are PASSWORDS for crissakes

Machibuse '80 (ex machina), Tuesday, 29 August 2006 20:46 (nineteen years ago)

I figure games manufacturies have recognised that getting your arse kicked forever sucks.

Robot Conquest (noodle vague), Tuesday, 29 August 2006 22:56 (nineteen years ago)

You need to GET the passwords to begin with.

The GZeus (The GZeus), Tuesday, 29 August 2006 23:40 (nineteen years ago)

IT ISN'T HARD TO BEAT ALL ROBOT MASTERS IN LIKE 30 MIN. YOU ARE JUST TERRIBLE

Machibuse '80 (ex machina), Wednesday, 30 August 2006 12:09 (nineteen years ago)

Lol Megaman 2 'is hard.'

Darramouss (Darramouss ftw), Wednesday, 30 August 2006 12:10 (nineteen years ago)

I can't get past the 2nd stage of Ghosts and Goblins with a motherfucking Game Genie. I only got past that TMNT stage once where you go underwater and have to defuse the bombs. I could never beat the Darkman game when I was a kid either and one of my proudest moments of my childhood is when I beat Dick Tracy and Friday the 13th in the same week (yeah, I got a lot of shitty license games). Oh shit, what about Back to the Future. I only got past that Milkshake stage once.

christopherscottknudsen (christopherscottknudsen), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 17:46 (nineteen years ago)

Did it bring all the boyz to the yards?

The GZeus (The GZeus), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 21:03 (nineteen years ago)

Shitty licensed games? Dick Tracy's a classic!

melton mowbray's APOCALYPTO! (adr), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 22:24 (nineteen years ago)

one month passes...
What's that PC game that is entirely on one screen, with only one button to press, with four layers, and on the first one you need to jump over pits with perfect timing, and on the second you have to chop down trees, etc?

-- a.b. (aaaaaathatsfivea...) (webmail), August 21st, 2006 9:14 PM. (alanbanana) (link)

found it: Jungle Trouble
http://retrospec.sgn.net/game-links.php?link=jungle

a.b. (alanbanana), Friday, 20 October 2006 03:38 (nineteen years ago)

ghostbusters foe NES wasn't meant to be finished.

Jimmy Mod is COMPLETELY MISERABLE SAN DIEGO (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Friday, 20 October 2006 04:11 (nineteen years ago)

eight months pass...

I'm just reviving this to brag about beating the first Ninja Gaiden, finally.

http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t214/ZachRScott/animatedending.gif

Z S, Saturday, 23 June 2007 19:15 (eighteen years ago)

"...see you next"..? NEXT WHAT, MAN, next WHAT?! We need closure here

kingfish, Saturday, 23 June 2007 20:10 (eighteen years ago)

Ninja Gaiden Black and Odin Sphere are probably the hardest games I've played from the last gen, but they're really only hard by current standards, nothing like a difficult NES game. Well, some parts of NGB are.

marmotwolof, Saturday, 23 June 2007 20:33 (eighteen years ago)

I got zinged by Daramouss on here!

forksclovetofu, Sunday, 24 June 2007 06:20 (eighteen years ago)

they're making a new Rygar for the Wii!

TOMBOT, Sunday, 24 June 2007 07:38 (eighteen years ago)

he's right though
x-post

yeah Tom Wiimote diskarmor should be cool

marmotwolof, Sunday, 24 June 2007 09:52 (eighteen years ago)

Fantastic Dizzy for the mega drive was so annoying for the lack of being able to save the game and for there being no password. I remember playing that game for hours and dying with one star out of 250 left to get don't think i played it for about 5 years after that.

ELZ, Sunday, 24 June 2007 14:14 (eighteen years ago)

Fantastic Dizzy for the mega drive was so annoying for the lack of being able to save the game and for there being no password. I remember playing that game for hours and dying with one star out of 250 left to get don't think i played it for about 5 years after that.

Hahahahaha, so so otm. I don't think I ever finished it, but I must have been close because I played it a lot!
You totally didn't mind doing the WHOLE GAME AGAIN every time though, because it's so hard to remember how you did things before and what you've got to do, in what order, that every go is like your first. Also, how to get to some of the silly platforms in the crazy egg village, where you've got to jump off the screen at an awkward angle to land on the next screen in the right place.

melton mowbray, Sunday, 24 June 2007 15:01 (eighteen years ago)

Starring "Dizzy" the U.K.'s #1 Video game hero

forksclovetofu, Sunday, 24 June 2007 22:21 (eighteen years ago)

two weeks pass...

If I can beat Mega Man 2 anybody can.

Mr. Snrub, Tuesday, 10 July 2007 05:50 (eighteen years ago)

Hardest video game I've ever played: Goldeneye for the Nintendo 64

Mr. Snrub, Tuesday, 10 July 2007 05:52 (eighteen years ago)

Mega Man one was harder than two, I thought. 3 was easier than two, then I didn't play another until Mega Man X which was also easy.

marmotwolof, Tuesday, 10 July 2007 06:02 (eighteen years ago)

But I think the hardest game I've played and finished is Tony Hawks 3. Most of it was fairly easy, but the very last challenge (500,000 on the cruise ship, I think) took me about 3 months during which I was playing an hour each night and gradually doing a bit better each time (which meant I never got bored with it).

I think I finished that bit in less than a half-hour! It was my first Tony Hawk game, too, so I was pretty obsessed with it at the time.

polyphonic, Tuesday, 10 July 2007 07:18 (eighteen years ago)

Mega Man X6 manages to be annoyingly difficult in entirely new ways. You don't have to worry about continues, and enemies usually don't smack you into pits or spikes. However...

After you beat the stage bosses, the "castle" area opens. You quickly notice that the first part of the stage is a tower of spikes. The most obvious solution would be to wear the spike-resistant armour weakly hidden in four places in the earlier stages. So you put it on for the stage, and you climb the tower, and beat a boss, and the stage continues.

The next part of the stage is in the high air where you can easily fall to your death. Luckily the spike-resistant suit can also levitate. However, it can't change direction in mid-air, which causes you to be unable to reach a necessary ledge half-way through. You can't change the suit at this point. The only option is to restart the stage with the original armour.

The tower of spikes again. The vertical parts are spiked, but the platforms aren't. If you jump and boost upwards in midair, you can't quite reach the platforms. I got past it by using an old-school trick: getting hit by an enemy and then climbing the spikes while temporarily invincible. By reading gamefaqs, it's also possible to shoot a ball of ice into the ground, then standing on it and jumping from there. But if your timing is even a bit off, you get hit by the spikes and die. You need to climb around 8 walls of spikes to get to the boss.

The boss turns out to be virtually impossible without the levitation the other armour has. You now have to do a jump and boost at exactly the right time to avoid one of its attacks, which happens over a dozen times during the battle. One of its other attack occurs too randomly to be avoidable, especially with the original armour, and that certainly doesn't help either. If you don't have perfect timing or a bunch of powertanks, you are screwed.

And then you get to the high-air part and fall in the pits a bunch of times because you can't levitate. And then you get to that damn ledge and finish the stage.

All this shit made X6 my favorite Mega Man game.

abanana, Tuesday, 10 July 2007 07:31 (eighteen years ago)

new-school style games do the same kinds of things but instead of killing you, you just end up running around in circles until you figure out how to get past a point or get bored and turn the damn thing off.

marmotwolof, Tuesday, 10 July 2007 07:39 (eighteen years ago)

Mega Man 2 is super easy, every now and then I will beat it just to relax.

I never did beat the first Ninja Gaiden. :( I can always get to the same stage without any trouble (and apparently it's the second to last one!) but never seal the deal.

Jordan, Tuesday, 10 July 2007 15:39 (eighteen years ago)

Not many game stages are known for having a FAQ written entirely on how to get through them and them alone, but this stage has its reputation for good reason.

Nuff said really...

kv_nol, Tuesday, 10 July 2007 16:06 (eighteen years ago)

To me, the most frustrating part about Ninja Gaiden was that unlike the rest of the game, if you die on the final boss, you get sent aaaall the way back to the beginning of Stage 6-1. On any of other bosses, if you die you get sent back just to the beginning of that segment (ie, 4-3). It wouldn't be such a big deal, except that 6-2 can be maddenly difficult, the kind where you have to throw the controller and cool off for a while.

Actually, though, after dying on the final boss and going back to 6-1 a million times, I ended up getting really, really good at 6-2. I can get through it within 10 minutes now, almost every time.

Z S, Tuesday, 10 July 2007 21:35 (eighteen years ago)

And just in case you thought I meant maddeningly, I meant maddenly as in John Maddenly, as in really big, overwhelmingly hard.

Z S, Tuesday, 10 July 2007 21:36 (eighteen years ago)

I watched a speed run on youtube and 6-2 doesn't look as bad as I remember. I must have been within, like, five inches from the end and not known it.

Jordan, Tuesday, 10 July 2007 21:45 (eighteen years ago)

hehe, well, watching a speed run does tend to make things look easier than they actually are, too!
"dude, ghosts & goblins looks EASY!"

Z S, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 02:44 (eighteen years ago)

http://nitros9.lcurtisboyle.com/canyon_climber1.gif
http://nitros9.lcurtisboyle.com/canyon_climber2.gif
http://nitros9.lcurtisboyle.com/canyon_climber3.gif

goto 10. each time it got faster. i almost went blind.

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 15:20 (eighteen years ago)

I think I remember Ninja Gaiden 2 as being even harder than 1, but maybe I'm wrong about that one. I haven't played either of those games since I was a kid. I never beat either of them. :(

polyphonic, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 17:22 (eighteen years ago)

five years pass...

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m2p19dF6dc1qizbpto1_1280.gif

i petted a bodega cat today. (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 24 March 2013 18:45 (twelve years ago)

so much hate for that damn level

frogbs, Sunday, 24 March 2013 19:14 (twelve years ago)

i was about to answer, but i just started dark souls a few minutes ago. it might be best to wait a day or two before answering.

( ( ( ( ( ( ( (Z S), Sunday, 24 March 2013 19:14 (twelve years ago)

still think about dark link in zelda 2

the white queen and her caustic judgments (difficult listening hour), Sunday, 24 March 2013 19:15 (twelve years ago)

I think I finished that bit in less than a half-hour!

Haha I only just saw this, I hate you.

JimD, Sunday, 24 March 2013 23:40 (twelve years ago)

Jet Set Willy. Never mind the whole 'bugs in the game code means you can't complete it' thing. I never got that far, because the platforming is brutally hard.

Half of these sound like rappers. (snoball), Sunday, 24 March 2013 23:52 (twelve years ago)

Also, the controls were as laggy as a Wiimote.

Half of these sound like rappers. (snoball), Sunday, 24 March 2013 23:53 (twelve years ago)


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