Super Street Fighter II Turbo HD Remix

Anybody else going to pick this up? PS3 version is out on the 25th / 360 version out on the 26th. $15.00. Online play is supposed to be really smooth.

If they don't fuck it up, this is a definite purchase. Love me some SF2.

I've never played Super Street Fighter 2 though, so this will be a slightly new creature.

is there already a demo? I'd like a solid fighting game, and 2D is fine.

I will be getting this. On 360 though :/

me too, but I suck at SF

im so getting this

I will be getting this. On 360 though :/

more like :D :D :D

^ilx nxe SSFIITHDR prty

it's only :D :D :D if i get a better d-pad before wednesday!

douche pad?

you shd get one of these, will!

the current xbox d-pad is a TOTAL d-pad, s1ocki.

czn i would totally get one of those if i didn't owe a pooload of money to my phone + my hydro bill + my going to NYC in two weeks!!! as it stands i am poor, like, eating only chickpeas for a month poor.

basically i think all 2D fighting games suffer for not being on sega saturn: best console so i dont mind the shitty xbox controller

co-sign, will, co-sign

I think fighting games are easier without a joystick.
But street fighter 2 was at its best with Alpha 3. The extra characters were well worth it.
http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/5035/steetxb1.jpg

Alpha 3 footage

Street Fighter 4 will include 4 alpha characters: Rose, Gen, Sakura, and Dan. I wish they picked Guy.

and Adon who wasn't in that video

i like Dan angrily eating rice in that pic.

Canon-wise, aren't all those four Alpha characters supposed to be dead? Almost certainly Rose. (though I'm glad to see them all! Alpha 3 was great) I suspect they're not paying a ton of attention to continuity for this, as SF IV is an interquel between II and III, oddly enough.

SSF2T HD Remix is another one of those "ugh I need to buy a current gen system to play a decade old game" but I guess the HD graphics do justify it. The game is a classic, though I'm always skeptical about smooth online play with fighting games.

continuity? street fighter has a story?

Not anymore it doesn't! (see Gouken too)

there's lots of gameplay additions to this as well, nhex, but from the sounds of it a lot of the content is for the frame-counters

oh... and apparently (according to 1up) the netcode is second-to-none. "the best ever, for a fighting game"

Oh yeah, duh. I just totally blanked on that. Seriously, it's weird. Actually, I've been following David Sirlin's blog for the last year, and the various move and timing changes sound interesting. Though most of them will be noticeable only to the hardcore like you say (like more given XvY matchups are doable, tiers are supposedly more level, etc.).

If the online play works that will be great, it's something I really want to see officially. I suffered through countless hours of monstrous glitch-ridden Kaillera to get my online fighting fix, once upon a time. Legit games haven't done much better. Believe it when I see it...

Slocki, should I get this on PS3 rather than xbox? Can we have an ILG consensus?

you should because

1) one day earlier
2) we can play each other
3) also you should get super puzzle fighter for ps3

http://strategywiki.org/wiki/Street_Fighter_II_Turbo/Moves

uh wait, Sakura is dead????

woop - it must actually be this one (all these Street Fighter II versions are confusing)
http://strategywiki.org/wiki/Super_Street_Fighter_II_Turbo/Moves

Sakura should be fucking dead

But how else would the Japanese/Nippophiles get their JSG upskirt fix?

who said sakura is dead?

Street Fighter 4 will include 4 alpha characters: Rose, Gen, Sakura, and Dan. I wish they picked Guy.

― ❤ⓛⓞⓥⓔ❤ (CaptainLorax), Friday, November 21, 2008 5:04 PM Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

and Adon who wasn't in that video
http://www.youtube.com/v/S_w9qqnwHr4&hl=en

― ❤ⓛⓞⓥⓔ❤ (CaptainLorax), Friday, November 21, 2008 5:09 PM Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Canon-wise, aren't all those four Alpha characters supposed to be dead? Almost certainly Rose. (though I'm glad to see them all! Alpha 3 was great) I suspect they're not paying a ton of attention to continuity for this, as SF IV is an interquel between II and III, oddly enough.

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"I wish they picked Guy. and Adon who wasn't in that video" (and a couple other alpha 3 characters most people have never seen weren't in either youtubes I posted. I couldnt find a youtube that wasn't too long and showcased all the "new" alpha characters.)

that's how the two messages were supposed to go together.

and yeah, I don't know if Rose, Gen, Sakura, and Dan are dead but they will only appear in the home version of Street Fighter IV, along with Cammy and Fei Long. Also the home version will have the bosses as playable characters. There's going to be a total of 6 new characters for street fighter IV. this is all from the wiki.

now back to street fighter II TURBO HD Remix... I should ask for a wireless adapter and xbox live for xmas. I used to play fighting games online using MAME but my computer always lagged a bit too much.

I'm definitely picking up this game tomorrow (I've even dusted off my stick), but yeah, it's IV that I really want.

if Sakura's not gonna be dead then she should at least be post-pubertal, but that would probably have provoked outrage from the basement dwelling pederasts she was included for

is this going to be as good as SF2?

or just a big pile of pixel shader bollocks?

anyone read this?

also a good place to look to read about the changes in this version

My first quick impressions are that I suck. But this version of SFII seems really good. Looks very clean, plays right and online really did seem to work great. I played four or five random rounds online and noticed no lag at all. I did have a problem where it seemed to keep dumping me into another match after losing a match and not giving me a way to quit or try something else - that was a little frustrating. I also wish in practice mode it would display all the moves so you could work through them and, you know, practice. Maybe it does this and I couldn't figure out how? I really need a lot of practice :(

It's a little hard to go back to playing these "simpler" fighters, with so few available moves. I kind of miss the crazier stuff you can do and see, in say, Tekken DR (which I was just playing last night). I really miss not being able to run, of all things. And it's easier to do button + direction combos than SFII's joystick twists and z shapes, at least for me. Will practice a lot more before going back online.

up on xbla now but you have to complete the 'actually find me on the marketplace' minigame before M$ will let you download it

here

the online play is solid; no lag in the 15-odd games I've played today

i've had a lot of disconnections but i think it's a problem with me using wifi

are you on 360 or PS3, abanana? I demand an ilx 360 SSF2THDR tourney

anyone know where this is at:

17) Bragging rights. Aside from the in game leaderboards/scoreboards, we are going to be supporting an external website that will track your rank and records. This website (URL to be announced) will not only track your win/loss record, but will go into granular stats, like how many times you’ve thrown a character or how many projectiles you’ve launched. This website will be the definitive place to flaunt your Street Fighter prowess.

- from here

oh, thought that was an old post but it's just from monday... will await the announcement

I'm a sucker for those kinds of websites; was jealous of halo 3's www stat-tracking when I played a bunch of cod4

playing this with forks' FO3 oldies OST is quite soothing

will be on this, when I have a landline, and an Internet connection, and an XBOX that works

Man the Xbox controller sucks for fighting games. The d-pad is worthless.

so I played a ton of SF2 when it came out, in the arcade and on SNES. Then I lost track of it, but on a few trips to arcades since I've seen SF boxes that are reaaaaaally fast, like the fighting is super turbo. Is this "Turbo HD remix" one of those super fast ones? And if so, is it straightforward to move from being decent at the slow one, to being decent at the fast one?

Hahaha, you kept trying to pull me in! Fancy a few games over the weekend?

I finally beat this, only to find that my friend I took over from was playing on easy. I thought I'd suddenly just got mad skills/lucky. Turns out I'm still rubbish at it.

are u on 360, craigg?

john, let's do it

ggs earlier jeff. balrog does so much damage

ryu is my new fave character in this game. he is super solid and he has dece mix-ups and his new fake fb is too good

always surprised by how good the netcode is on this game considering how far apart we are. there was some frame skipping and dropped inputs but it was def playable and still heaps of fun

Thanks for the games czn. I really felt my execution was off this morning (I partially will blame slight hangover & input lag). Mainly though, I've still got practice to do at getting more consistent execution. Sometimes I feel like I'm right on and having no problems, but other times, my ability seems to drift slightly out of alignment (if that makes any sense).

As to those knock down loops, I'm pretty sure Ryu's wake up srk will beat Rog's rush down every time.

I've still got a few more Balrog things I need to practice to mix up my game more - and a few match-ups to try to learn. I definitely want to learn to play Ryu and Dictator as secondary characters at some point too.

yeah, the srk does beat it but it's hard with the lag, even with piano-ing :) reversals are so hard in this game anyway

Yeah, I'm on 360. I blame the stupid controller; I so frequently go to do a special and bone it cos I'm not that accurate with the stick/pad. Of course, I'm also not good enough to justify a proper stick. :)

john rage quit on me!

i did not! but you know that now. I think we ended with a 5/5 tie on Sfii?

ha yeah ggs dude, a pleasure

It seems like a lot of new people picked up the game in the last week since it was on sale. I feel sorry for them... Has there ever been a game more brutal for beginners?

Anybody have some tips for Balrog vs Vega - this is the match-up that really drives me crazy. Also losing to a fairy! Either I can't get the timing right to punch him out of the sky, or he does that crazy rapid rolling attack, which I can block, but not punish. I just feel totally lost.

My issue is chun vs vega; I lose to clearly inferior players, but I can never beat the yodel leap, yodel leap, foot sweep, foot sweep, yodel leap, etc

Blanka also gives me fits (admittedly, I just ran into a very good one (three times in a row) that almost crushed my soul).

h8 u guys

luv u 2

nhex - I'll play some games of Super Turbo w/ u via GGPO someday, if you'd like. Have you been able to pick up a stick yet? Even though remix makes Balrog a little less strong, I do love that they've changed his TAP to a two button move... it makes it a lot easier for me to incorporate it into my game and mix things up more. In original Super Turbo (and IV), having to hold three buttons makes it a lot harder to hold it in reserve... and I haven't really figured out a good technique, where I feel comfortable using it, which is a bummer that having a slightly stronger Balrog with a larger throw range doesn't quite make up for.

never found too much of an issue with scar v chun; the jump attacks negate the low fireball real well and the dragon punch range is roughly the same as ken/ryu so nothing new to worry about. the guys who can chain tigeruppercut/tigerknee in rapid unpredictable rushes are the ones I'm sweating.

I ran across a by the book high level Sagat last night that destroyed me with a rain of extremely rapid tiger tiger tiger tiger tiger tiger knee tiger uppercut tiger tiger tiger. Really good Sagats willing and able to play by the book are monsters / very hard/unfun match-up for Balrog + possibly everybody else.

It finally happened - I sent my first taunting hate mail to some dude. A Vega of course, who I came up against in rankend matchmaking three different times(!). The first two games he kicked the shit out of me spamming the usual Vega bullshit moves, but by the third match I FINALLY figured a bit of the Vega game out (or at least his) and after dropping the first two rounds, came back to win the next three... except (of course) just as I was about to win the third, he rage quit. Actually I've been getting a lot more rage quits in ranked lately. I don't really mind it if I'm just dominating the hell out of somebody, say perfecting the first round and well on the way to do it a second time, but when it's a hard fought fight, one you really had to work at to get yourself in a winning position, sure it bugs me, especially because I never pull no matter what (though sometimes I do give up in disgust at myself and the other player's superior skill/knowledge and let him/her destroy my rag doll dummy in the final round for their win). Sent, "aw poor baby," which seemed about right. Then set him up as a player to be avoided - though I noticed yesteday that the game still sets you up with avoided players after I'd negatived one rage quiter only to fight him again (and have him quit on me again in the final round).

If this is what's its gotten like for an average player like me (around 25% of the game's I seem to be winning leading to the other player rage quitting), it's a wonder any good players even bother with the game online

That said, I'm still (mostly) having a really good time with the game and feel like I'm getting better finally. The key being, as soom of you told me, just to play lots lots lots

rong the key is not 2 be a fag ~~~ 2 bad u can nvr win

vega is boss fuk u just jealous he wont get on your homo dick

fuk rage quiters tho they can go 2 hell

Can't decide if I'm really getting better at this or if most of the quality players have moved on (probably a bit of both?). Anyhow - just won my 500th ranked game!

Sirlin interview - part 1, part 2.

Not necessarily the best thread for this, but what can ya do. I disagree with a lot of his stuff but he's generally not wrong about SFIV's issues (aside from the weird two-button throw hate), though I still like the game. I do strongly agree with the general idea that there's this illusion that execution-heavy stuff in fighting games, like 1-frame link combos you need to do in Practice Mode for 10 hours, just adds an illusion of depth and doesn't necessarily emphasize the skills you should be looking at in multiplayer games.

david sirlin needs to learn about dat "plinking" if he thinks the execution requirements of sfiv are tough

is this the all-purpose Daigo ownage thread? because if so

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtuA5we0RZU

lmao, upon further YouTubing it appears that I have urged everyone to listen to this The Abbey Road record by Those Beatles

lol I am downlaoding that the abbey road right now

daigo clip never gets old tho so whtevers

"let's go justin" (from tht video) has become a meme w/the japanese

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfcSlmQ6m_Y#t=1m59s
@ 02:00
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjwlHeaJNYc#t=0m8s
@ 00:09
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmTlaH54hDo#t=0m28s
@ 0:29
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xe39JrqkXQ0#t=1m26s
@ 01:27

http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/6598/letsgoshirt1.jpg

wow @ that shirt

would totally wear a 'let's go justin' shirt

I wonder if any other 360 game has generated as much hate mail and negative ratings? What is it about super turbo that turns people into such pathetic crybaby bitches?

Anyhow, I still keep playing a lot. I feel like I've still got a lot to learn, a lot to dig out of this game, but I also feel a bit like I've hit a wall. I just don't feel like I'm getting any better anymore? Still occasionally having a tough time translating moves I'm able to do in the practice room with no problem, into the competitive online situation - mainly throws & combing into super. I'm winning about 50% of my games, but feel those wins are generally against the very weak opponents. Anybody halfway decent still causing me problems (though sometimes we all get lucky).

Any thoughts on taking it to the next level?

pathetic crybaby bitches

you changed dawg; you changed

all jeff can do is crossups cuz he has no skills

only thought I have is to hit up the regional matchmaking threads or the hdr sub-forum on srk and seek out some regular consistent competition in player matches... nothing helps u level up as much as getting wailed on 50 games in a row by someone who can tell you what you're doing wrong and when

my response to that is: dude, just don't

I agree^^^

once u hit that middle tier of skill the only way to progress is by player matching w/ good players that can really teach u some shit ~~ youll find so many leaks in your game at 1st its kind of brutal. alternate player matches w/ analysis and practice and then some rando matches for variance and u should keep improving

fukkkkk i need school to start

Finally just got the combomaniac achievement for doing a a 7-hit combo in a match (LOL).

have you 200'd it?

/polishes 200 GS

Nah, but I haven't really been trying - still never beat Akuma, did the Sagat scar thing(?) or won a ranked online game w/ every character. I've been working on getting better at performing combos though, for some reason only recently learning or realizing how important combos are for winning, so to finally nail a relatively big one felt really good.

Evo2k10 won by a pad Zangief (Snake Eyes)
2. DGV (Ryu)
3. Afrolegends (Balrog)

awesome match

It was cool to see some new(?) people still picking up the game & winning at it. Has there even been a more brutal fighting game? If so, I don't think I want to see it. Also, I was once beat by Afrolegends (last years winner, right?) on live, like a couple of years ago.

love how everyone's surprised about the pad as if an entire generation of gamers grew up playing these games at home vs. at an arcade (i for one only touched a pad abotu a dozen times before i bought one a few months ago (not that i'm good or anything but it stands to reason SOEONE is))

DGV is sick; are there vids about?

Not yet, but EVO put up about 30 matches today on YouTube from SSF4 and Tekken - it'll probably be up tomorrow.

Sirlin's take, a fun read as usual:
http://www.sirlin.net/blog/2010/7/12/evolution-2010-the-miracle-man-with-zangief.html

I believe k*ll*an even said after the match was over that it was the first time Zangief had been used to win a major tournament, ever