driving games, which camera do you use?

been a staunch above and behind - far for all time but thinking about switching it up to in-car no cockpit from hereon out

only one of these options is not highly effeminate or just plain nuts.

nb it just occurred to me - 'cockpit' means actual solid material, not HUD - ie roof, dashboard, supports. do some games offer in-car no HUD?

lemme guess in-car no cockpit and you have a fancy penis?

exceedingly fancy.

fresh madness, I can never corner in that view

my penis is unfancy : /

i prefer to look at the road

Until they make a game where I can turn my head to the left and see out my driver's side window, it's always going to be some form of above and behind.

How often do you turn your head to the left and see out your driver's side window in real life? I almost never do.

assuming in-car no cockpit = HUD, that

all u outside-camera ppl are insane

i use the in-car camera in GTA! only possible way to drive imo

I almost always use the "above and behind - far" option. No comment on the fanciness of my penis.

in car no cockpit, o/w I get nauseous.

I might have voted incorrectly, but I think above and behind (middle) is probably the default option for most racers, right? At least for games like F-Zero and Mario Kart? That's probably what I'd go with, then.

cinematic is pretty fun in gta. voted above and behind (close)

in-car no cockpit always seems alot faster than any other camera. above and behind is probably most precise. as a nipper i always went for the former (unless playing out run), i think it took until gran turismo, or maybe ridge racer type 4 to switch to the latter

How often do you turn your head to the left and see out your driver's side window in real life? I almost never do.

Whenever I'm passing someone on the right? Which is like everytime I'm in a street race?

Ah just hit 'em, you're not worried about a few scratches are you? Further evidence that out-of-car cameras are for pussies.

above and behind is probably most precisely designed for those lacking in macho testosterone.

depends on the game. stuff w/lots of crashing potential (intentional or otherwise), above behind close, anything that is racing racing (gt or w/e) in car no cockpit or maybe front bumper. i'll often do both in the same game (burnout is a good example of this)

what is point of front bumper (aka fender) cam? it's just too close to the road.

"above behind middle" most of the time, switching to "in-car with no cockpit" for making it through narrow gaps/shortcuts.

a real man knows his girl from all the angles

Above and behind far, once they make a six-monitor set-up so I can look in any direction then maybe I'll go first person but as it stands way-third-person is the only way I can see what the hell is going on beside my car, usually. Plus I don't know how to drive IRL.

Never stopped anyone from being good at driving games. I can't drive IRL either, but I rule at driving games.

"above behind middle" most of the time = does not rule at driving games

get in the car

a and b - close is the only option here

Driving games = not much to do with driving - see Wipeout or the drag races in NFS:Underground.

i find gran turismo absolutely impossible unless it's in-car! this is a good poll.

I used in-car no cockpit exclusively when I was addicted to Gran Turismos 1-3 (I don't think having the cockpit was even an option).

In car w/ cockpit a la the last Colin McRae rally game = maddeningly impossible, but also rewarding when I got the hang of it.

I switch around until I find one that's comfortable, which is usually in-car cockpit or directly behind.

above and behind - close. But I haven't played racing games for ages, because I'm shit at them.

I switch around until I find one that's comfortable

Look, we don't take kindly to crazy talk around here.

yes crazy prejudices only pls

in my mind I somehow equate ppl who use in-car views with those who use normal controls on FPS

both delinquent choices I guess

normal controls on FPS

by this u mean non-'inverted'? no way

driving in-car and inverting y axis in fps come straight from early game experiences with flight sims. funny, i remember trying to describe wolfenstein to a friend as 'like a flight sim, only you're just a dude'

come straight from MY experiences, i shd say

i wonder if when you started playing racing games has anything to do with this, like if you started with top gear on the snes, you prefer out-of-car, but if you started with test drive you prefer in-car?

i dunno what i started with but i used to drive out-of-car until i realised that real men drove in-car.

i actually wanted to drive above and behind for gran turismo, so that i could see my AWESOME CAR doing AWESOME THINGS but i couldn't hack it - maybe i was so mesmerised by my own beauty that i forgot to look where i was going

in general i vastly prefer third-person to first-person POV -- but not for driving games, especially gran turismo where the whole thing of it is to feel as hough you're actually driving a real car not hovering above it like some stuntcam spy drone

for the "Driver" series though, i went above-car all the way

^^^ first Driver game is especially unplayable using the in-car view

depends on the game. stuff w/lots of crashing potential (intentional or otherwise), above behind close, anything that is racing racing (gt or w/e) in car no cockpit or maybe front bumper. i'll often do both in the same game (burnout is a good example of this)

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Some games are impossible in-car - fast ones (burnout), not real driving games (gta), crashy ones (motorstorm)

fast ones (burnout)

LOL N00B

Oh man, another two whole weeks before this thrilling poll closes!

Also, Wipeout is UNARGUABLY the FASTEST RACING GAME KNOWN TO MAN.

f-zero?

above in-front facing back aka 'inverted'

F-Zero faster than Wipeout, definitely. Although ye cannae rely upon in-game speedos to be honest about that sort of thing.

Wait, forgot about zone mode.

Anyway, the correct answer to this poll is inverted.

ye cannae rely upon in-game speedos to be honest about that sort of thing.

This seems like a "it goes up to 11" thing. Wipeout always seems faster than F-Zero, especially in the later stages.

i usually use the default above-behind-medium view. never understood the in-car view, i like to see what's around me. plus all the racers i grew up with, rad racer on up, kinda instilled the outside car pov.

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visions of Cerbera LM edition on Trial Mountain in GT 1 dancing in my head

i always go first-person in the GTA games - it's just insanely difficult to beat any racing or ambulance missions in third person... gets a lil disorienting on motorcycles tho

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Unbelievable bunch of panty-waisters on this board.

In-car is stupid - when I'm driving a real car I'm not stuck facing forward at a zero-degree angle, and those with adjustable cameras are too annoying to control precisely. Out-of-car may be unrealistic but it approximates real vision better in most cases.

how can it be both "unrealistic" and approximate "real vision"?

cos you have more peripheral vision, i guess?

"stuck facing forward at a zero-degree angle" isn't realistic i guess but it allows you to drive better so there

lots of guessing going on

on front bumper 1
in-car with cockpit 1

crackheads

I am reformed!!!!!

in-car with cockpit!!!!!!!!

What's the benefit? Verisimilitude?

yeah, mostly, plus it feels a lot faster, above and behind far is good for arcadey games like burnout etc but for arcadey-sims like PGR or sims like forza in-car w/cockpit is so boss

who voted for that option in the poll?

In-car changed everything for me with GTA4. It's a whole new game.

yeah, better views of the city. but it's not so good for seeing behind you in tight squeezes.

I've been playing a lot of 'Driver: San Francisco' lately (ridic concept but great fun). I like that some of the challenges force you to change to in-car views. I find above & behind the easiest to play but in-car w/ no cockpit the most fun. Front bumper is useful for the smash challenges.

in-car view got a lot more fun when they started animating the driver's arm when he shifts, and debris on the windshield, and etc. Before that it didn't really offer much to me. I like overhead rear because the context can be really good, and I also like full screen first person for the lack of clutter and better graphics performance.