2000-2009 in video games [n/p]

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ten years two generations one new millennium (learned how 2 spell that from persona 4 btw)

snood

imo

whole reason i started this thread was to get u to post a list of videogames u like btw

(also hangover but thats only like 15% at most)

s1okci's ten games of the decade as i imagine them:

01 snood
02 call of duty 4
03 ny times crossword ds
04 sim vivant ON IPHONE
05 ...
06 ar tonelico 2: wings of radiant divinity
07 metriod prime
08 picross ds
09 [tower defense game]
10 rock band

I've played more Picross than anything but don't know if I think it's much good or not. Fuck I've played it a lot tho.

Scribblenauts is a top 10, for sure.

do me next

Scribblenauts coulda been a contender if it was any fun.

I thought this was about the year, not decade. Scribblenauts is fun, but it's nowhere near a top 10 in that case.

me too, me too, somebody guess my list

cozwn's top ten iirc:

01 sfiv
02 sfIIthdr
03 lol soccer
04 yakuza 2
05 taisho mononoke ibunroku.
06 n+
07 tatsu v capcom
08 racing game high definition
09 dqV ds
10 grand theft auto iv

replace number 06 w/sb

suggest braid?

lol @ #8

08 racing game high definition

lulz. er xpost

i kind of took most of this decade off videogaming, so this is an odd list

nethack 3.4
fallout 3
chu chu rocket
persona iv
team fortress 2
grid wars
we love katamari (1st one never got a uk release -> i might go for that otherwise)
doomRL

two that don't really count, to make ten:
planescape torment (came out last week of 1999 iirc. on the other hand i find it totally broken as a game, so er)
shiren the wanderer DS (but this is a snes game from like 1994 so)

okay kingfish list probably most likely

01 zack and miri make a lucasarts adventure game
02 pyschonauts
03 morrowind
04 fallout 3
05 iphone app that lets u text edit rightwing cartoons
06 raventomb: curse of the spectral unicorn witch
07 dark cloud 2
08 eternal darkness: sanity's request
09 castlevania: hand of held
10 puzzle quest

don't even like racing game high definition so the lulz r on u

chu chu rocket

100% agree

Never really played Morrowind, actually. Oblivion, yeah.

Also, what Lucasarts game came out after 1998's Grim Fandango?

s1okci's ten games of the decade as i imagine them:

01 snood
02 call of duty 4
03 ny times crossword ds
04 sim vivant ON IPHONE
05 ...
06 ar tonelico 2: wings of radiant divinity
07 metriod prime
08 picross ds
09 [tower defense game]
10 rock band

― nutrional socialist (Lamp), Saturday, October 3, 2009 11:33 AM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

lol that's at least half right

actual drunken list, in no order:

NWN2
Katamari
Rez
Jet Grind Radio
GTA:SA
FO3(maybe)
Civ 4
HL2
Portal
KOTOR/KOTOR2
BG2
SSX Tricky/SSX3

other fun: AOE2/3, Jedi Knight II (force-throwing stormtroopers offa gangplanks to their deaths far below will never, ever get old), Metroid Prime, NOLF1/2

Correct on the Pyschonauts/Eternal Darkness inclusions, tho. I never finished Dark Cloud 2 as the "Guess What! We're going to make you replay all those levels you've already gotten tired of grinding thru!" point had me quit.

put in like...

half-life 2
advance wars ds
some mario kart ish
wind waker

take out

nyt crossword
snood tbh
metroid

for mine xp

Mine, no order

GTA San Andreas
Morrowind
Football Manager series
We Heart Katamari
Endless Ocean
Rome: Total War
Civ 3
Date Ariane

That's all I got right now

that's IT!??!?!?!

something like

Resident Evil 4 Wii Edition
Metroid: Zero Mission
New York Times Crosswords DS
We <3 Katamari
Rock Band
Super Mario Galaxy
DROD Journey to Rooted Hold
Vagrant Story
Dragon Quest VIII
Return to Mysterious Island

1. Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas
2. Team Fortress 2
3. Metal Gear Solid 3: Subsistence
4. Mushihime-sama
5. Geometry Wars II
6. Wipeout HD
7. Ikaruga
8. Ninja Gaiden Sigma
9. Elite Beat Agents
10. Burnout 3: Takedown

Resident Evil 4
Legend of Zelda: Wind Waker
Ridge Racer (PSP)
Grand Theft Auto IV
WipEout Pure
Super Mario Galaxy
Super Smash Bros. Melee
Mario Kart: Super Circuit
FIFA 09
Soul Calibur 2

These are just the ones that I've played and enjoyed enough to call my favourites, in no particular order, off the top of my head. I don't doubt that FIFA 10 is actually better than FIFA 09 or that WipEout HD is better than WipEout Pure.

^^ first list i actively hate >50% of games on it

01 smt: persona 3/FES
02 super robot taisen j
03 mass effect
04 dragon quest VIII: journey of the cursed king
05 metriod prime
06 half life 2
07 silent hill 2
08 suikoden III
09 blazblue
10 panzer tactics ds

i started to try to explain my choices but it just ended up being fuiud sd ten different ways

Date Ariane

You know that version 6.0 (Live Free Or Die, er, Hard) is out now?

nethack 3.4 looooooool fallout 3 this is a pretty good pick but i was never that satisfied w/ this game. maybe worth thinking abt. maybe it just felt like an rpg that wanted to be a shooter? chu chu rocket lol u gay/european/old just feels like a weird puzzler to rep for in terms of an entire decade esp because it was a pretty good decade for puzzle games persona iv fes is better, i guess? i mean <3 this & great choice but its basically p3 expansion pak team fortress 2 not played grid wars not played we love katamari sure
doomRL another hack? havent played enough to comment

Jet Grind Radio
Civ 4
N
Chu Chu Rocket
Madden 2008 (PS2 version)
Z-Rox
Soul Calibur 2
Varicella
Mario Sunshine
Blue Chairs

I'd forgotten it was a puzzle game! I just remember it as by far the best 4-ppl-round-a-TV game I've ever played.

NWN2 if i was picking one of these itd be this Rez i h8 rail shooters Jet Grind Radio this feels like a 90s game to me? its a great game tho GTA:SA this felt like such a step up from vc, and my pick for gta games too. also the place where the missions started to get same-y and kind of tedious tho Civ 4 THE RUINED THE TECH TREE FUK U THEY RUINED THE TECH TREE HL2 ^_^ Portal not my thing KOTOR/KOTOR2 i need to replay these BG2 i really disliked the combat and atmosphere in bg1 - havent played this but i d/l a copy after the discussion here on ilg a few months ago SSX Tricky/SSX3 haaa i almost put this on the list i made for u i def see the appeal

(I think maybe 4-or-5 of my list would make a "best/favourite games I played in the 00s" list! Lol nostalgia plus late nineties golden age)

Morrowind havent played Football Manager series havent played Endless Ocean so so pretty. this is a neat choice Rome: Total War owns but it has a weird difficulty curve. it also - and maybe im just old now - never manages to suck me in like Civ 3 last pc strat game i got obsessive w/ i think weve talked abt what a great addition resources were. Date Ariane lol really?

nethack 3.4 looooooool fallout 3 this is a pretty good pick but i was never that satisfied w/ this game. maybe worth thinking abt. maybe it just felt like an rpg that wanted to be a shooter? chu chu rocket lol u gay/european/old just feels like a weird puzzler to rep for in terms of an entire decade esp because it was a pretty good decade for puzzle games persona iv fes is better, i guess? i mean <3 this & great choice but its basically p3 expansion pak team fortress 2 not played grid wars not played we love katamari sure
doomRL another hack? havent played enough to comment

― лампа (Lamp)

^ i think if you're doing this sort of thing you should also give us, like, marks out of ten

does anyone have any big thoughts on THE DECADE IN GAMING then

Uh, I guess the story is consoles and uh multiplayer and Flash and World of Warcraft? Fuck all those things tbh.

If you do a 'most important games of the decade' list you get something like Bejeweled / HL2 / Sims / WoW / Wii Sports um.

(I think it's been a totally amazing decade fwiw! Lots of great scenes, gaming grew up in lots of ways etc!)

my list is highly biased in terms of what i actually played obv, i bought p3FES when i was !!! at persona 4 but i haven't played it because the endgame of persona 4 reminded me why i don't like rpgs

chu chu rocket bcz it is the one dreamcast game i could be bothered to rep for. also four player mode is awesome , also it made my (twice my age) brother go 'cunt. cunt. fuckin cunt!' when he lost which was really novel to me as a kid

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it totally seems like a decade of, like, recapitulation to me. maybe because i wasn't paying attention. i think rhythm games going major is probably one of the BIG STORIES. but, you know. 'games continue to not just be for nerds anymore' etc ... nothing like the 90s in terms of game-changing (ergh) developments

i mean when i was thinking "right this decade what games came out this decade that were amazing" my first thought was "bushido blade? did bushido blade come out this decade?"

Resident Evil 4 Wii Edition i really cooled on this after replaying it nothing in particular either it just... felt stupid? idk Metroid: Zero Mission u cant look backwards imo New York Times Crosswords DS lol Rock Band i feel like this and the nyt thing exist in a different sphere than other games - theyre well made and engrossing but not proper games 2 me Super Mario Galaxy well, its a proper game ^_^ DROD Journey to Rooted Hold havent played this Vagrant Story damn this is 2000 - kinda feel like this is more "influential" than good but its been a long time since i played it Dragon Quest VIII n_n Return to Mysterious Island havent played

^ i think if you're doing this sort of thing you should also give us, like, marks out of ten

no need 2 get butthurt - these threads just kinda end up in aspie list making w/ none of the famous internet msg board back and forth - i just wanted to u no discuss things

story of the decade kind of feels like --> internet --> regional breakdown emergence of niche markets --> guitar hero --> wii/norms get in on the action --> games are a thing now, they make $$$ --> mobile devices and streaming

nothing like the 90s in terms of game-changing (ergh) developments

I'm actually not sure this is really true - I mean sure! Pong to Alex Kidd was an enormous distance! Alex Kidd to Dreamcast was an enormous distance! But the pace of change of a new medium is always gonna slow down - I think "everyone has broadband now" is really really huge, something like Fifa 10v10 mode is really exciting and new.

Lamp I would really like a mark out of ten! We could all do this to each others lists, it would be fun.

Agree w/gravel regarding this decade being great and breaking overall. I mean especially when I think about how online play was with Quakeworld and server browsers and IRC and how now you have friends lists where you can compare achievements and collections and join them mid-game with voice chat and everyone always being aware of everything you're doing -- just in that single aspect the leap has been pretty huge. Not to mention the huge leap forward the Dreamcast/PS2 generation felt like.

Halfway between jeff and gravel, you've pretty much got my list right there. Though I would need to take some more time to really figure out the order and exactly what titles it would be. There were a LOT of good games coming out '99/'00 so I'd have to double check what actually came out in 2000. Also I'd surely include Resident Evil 4 and perhaps Portal and some variation of Rock Band/Guitar Hero, despite never owned one myself.

3. Metal Gear Solid 3: Subsistence meh 4. Mushihime-sama i wish i was better at this. curious why u placed this the highest - pace? theme? controls? 5. Geometry Wars II dude i no was ranked in the top 3 for this consistently on xbl he kinda soured he on this 6. Wipeout HD just not my thing. pretty 7. Ikaruga cannon pick? 8. Ninja Gaiden Sigma havent really played - liked the xbox version 9. Elite Beat Agents its super slight but a great game 10. Burnout 3: Takedown not paradise? best racing game series imo

if u count regular ninja gaiden this is the only list ive played all the games which is weird because we have v. different taste in games

(I think for any of us under, say 30, a bias towards 2000-2005 games is pretty much to be expected - just more time to play, less jaded etc?)

lololololol i completely forgot about Army of Two, possibly the gayest game in history

i need to give a shout out to Close Combat: Invasion Normandy from '00. totally awesome game.

Just want to say in relation to earlier posts on SSX, I didn't play SSX3 but I much preferred 1080º Avalanche to SSX Tricky - though they're very different games so perhaps a bit of an irrelevant comparison. Maybe it's the way 1080º Avalanche almost seems to share more with WipEout than with Tony Hawk: it's more about the Zen of high speed twists and turns than silly amounts of tricks, spins and what have you.

i actually have to add Demon's Souls!

what's out in the first few months of 2010?

bioshock 2?

Katamari Damacy
Half-Life 2/Team Fortress 2
Resident Evil 4
Halo 2
Call of Duty
Sly Cooper
Guitar Hero 2
Ratchet and Clank: Going Commando
THPS 3
SSBM

i think there's a ton coming out in March alone

i also realize contributing to these best of year/decade threads is futile when i'm just getting to Shadow of the Colossus at the end of 2009

what's out in the first few months of 2010?

alan wake, red dead redemption

Games of early 2010

Mass Effect 2
Bioshock 2
Splinter Cell: Conviction
GT5
GOW3
FFXIII
Monster Hunter 3
Heavy Rain
Yakuza 3
Bayonetta
Lost Planet 2
No More Heroes 2
Dantes Inferno
Tatsunoko Vs. Capcom

all Jan - March, lots of these are going to undersell due to the congestion.

I am only interested in 1 (bs2) of those (plus red dead redemption) :/

are the Yakuza games more action RPG than sandbox gamey?

I'll be buying Bioshock 2, GOW3, FFXIII, Monster Hunter 3, Heavy Rain and Yakuza 3 if not as first-day purchases, pretty soon thereafter

wait you'll buy FFXIII but u won't see avatar? they're basically the same thing!

corny games are better than corny movies duh

EXACTLY
BUT THE GAME WILL ENTERTAIN FOR LONGER

xp

don't agree w/that, corny movies don't last 120hrs for one

ur playing it wrong

heavy rain does look nice tho; wonder if the story'll be m

...uch cop

uch cop sounds like a sequel to god hand

I wanna play Mass Effect 2 and the new FF. And Red Dead Redemption which I'm already positive will be my game of the year next year. Looks so freakin cool.

guess I'll have to finally get a fkn PS3 soon

you guys can make fun of for this but one game for which i have fond feelings is "bully." and it's one of those weird things were on an almost daily basis, some connection in my brain triggers a memory of playing "bully." like inside my head there's a synapse bridge between something i do frequently and memories of playing "bully." is there something wrong with me?

you and mr. insult swordfighting tempting me to pick up an old copy next year

i'm not making any claims that it's a "best game of the decade" or anything, it's just a game i had a lot of fun playing. i think it's because i'm not good enough at video games to really dominate any of the GTA games, but bully was just easy enough that i could actually beat it.

Bully is great and it's a serious contender for my game of the decade. I kinda know what you mean about having synapses burned with this game, b/c it's the only open world game I ever really got into i.e. played in 8 hour insomniatic bursts, and so now when I see cars going slowly down the road I have an automatic response to try to latch onto them with my (nonexistent) skateboard, or to egg them.

co-sign on Bully. It's one of the tiny class of games that genuinely broke out of a mould (more so than even GTA). It's a pretty perfect video game in that you can't imagine it being anything other than a video game-- there's no other form of media that it aspires to. EVen saying it's like GTA+Breakfast Club+Tom Brown's Schooldays doesn't get anywhere near it. It's pretty perfect actually! Hooray for Bully!

I actually got Bully last week (primarily cause of blogger dude stumping so hard for it) and it's really an excellent game. The aesthetics are so distinctive, and it's built in a really addictive fashion. There's like no boring / down times. (Tho I wish the loading wasn't so slow -- it can be 10-15 seconds between scenes even on a 360 with the scholarship edition.)

deus ex is seriously only on TWO lists? fuck every one of you, you dont deserve gaming

Yay. I deserve gaming.

i've been thinkin about this, and i'm coming up with a lot of games that i feel like i admire but would never even think of playing again - metroid prime, majora's mask, diablo 2, etc. so i'm just gonna list shit i'd be happy to play again

deus ex (#1 for the decade and its not even close)
mgs3
san andreas
wow
psychonauts

thats it thats all i got, i vetoed everything else as un-replayable

most games i loved i would never play again tbh

canks you would willingly replay a metal gear solid game?

mgs3's gameplay is really imaginative - i think it made me realize that my primary beef with the series had to do with the stupidness of the top down perspective, once i got the version with the third person view i was good to go

This really surprised me. I’ve always thought the opposite: that alternate routes are always valuable, even if you don’t take them, because you appreciate having options. Nope! Sometimes alternate routes are just noise. Sometimes having a lot of options just makes it feel like there isn’t really an obstacle at all, so getting past it feels more like a commute than a challenge.

So why do I enjoy taking alternate routes in Deus Ex? Why don’t I always go for the first or easiest one?

Honestly: because it sucks. In Deus Ex the shooting is intentionally bad, and even in Human Revolution, the cover shooting is nothing like as cool as the stealth. Deus Ex doesn’t offer you choice by presenting you with door A and door B. It presents you with a really difficult and awkward door A, then says “Oh no! I can’t believe you found a vent!"

i question that statement; shooting people in the face or slicing them up with a beam sword was still pretty fun - it could certainly coexist with the focus on world/level design without being bad or dull. And putting this kind of game next to a cover shooter thrill ride is a strange comparison? but i haven't played HR yet.

my impulse back in the day was always to play stealthily because i thought stealth was cool and because the game does a good job of guilt-tripping you if you just blow everyone away. but i recently replayed it as a guy who doesn't give a shit, poured upgrades into my assault rifle and my ballistic shield aug, and just waded through motherfuckers, and the game was in most places a lot easier (or at least faster) than the stealth route. not necessarily as fun. although the "scuttle the superfreighter" level, which had always been to me exactly when the game started to get dull, turned out to be a really tight and well-flowing 90s-style realistic-shooter level; it felt like something out of jedi knight. highly recommended.

(jedi knight is not "realistic" of course but what i mean is the environments make more sense than quake.)

also, i usually kill maggie chow with a beam sword because she's using a beam sword herself and i dig the idea of having a lightsaber fight with her at the base of the exploding universal constructor, but in that playthrough i just shot her as soon as i saw her and that had its pleasures too.

anyway this game is a masterpiece and at the very top of my canon for this decade, along with the first prince of persia reboot and maybe morrowind. and civ4, but, you know, that's My Civ; others' Civs may be different. stuff upthread making me want to play bully.

I think Morrowind takes the cake as to one of the best games I've ever played. Ok, maybe not "games" - like, interactive fun stuff - but the most immersive, life-sucking, incredibly realized, unbelievably imaginative alternate world I could possibly ever live in.

Deus Ex comes to my second as well. Human Revolution blows, I can't stand it.

i will stand by my list

I can't believe I put God of War 2 on there smh

i had a long very interesting talk w/ somebody where i was bemoaning the lack of "responsible spatial development" in games that allowed you to wander from one space to the next lackadaisically and once you had discovered a thing you could turn on "fuck space" mode aka fast travel (i was tlknabt SKYRIM) and someone told me that i should play morrowind because it maintains a subway-esque node-based fast travel situation. I guess this is more evidence that i should probably play morrowind someday.

it's like those carriages in skyrim, only that you ride a giant tic and it's easily seen and accessible from every town. it's not underplayed the way skyrim just had a guy shoved off in the corner of the stables, tootsing around

then you get to bigger cities like vivec - something like 7, 4-story cantinas and further proof as to why nothing in skyrim has impressed me the way morrowind has - where you have the option of taking a boat from building to building.

but also like skyrim, there's no real "travelling" involved. the screen fades to black and then pops in again when you've arrived at your destination. the tech at the time i would think is likely attribution - the part in skyrim where you (*SPOILERS?*) get to fly a dragon is so fucking half-asssed i couldn't even believe there wasn't at least one guy on the development team that went "you know guys, this could be a pretty special moment. let's not just fade to black again this time, cool?"

Oh wow, yeah, that dragon moment was the one huge disappointment in the whole of Skyrim for me, because they set it up in such a way that you couldn't help think "oh woo, this is going to be great fun!" and then yeah, they skipped it instead. I wouldn't even have minded if they'd suddenly cut to pre-rendered CG to cover it, but blackscreen was pretty crushing.

love morrowind's transit system. the blackscreen's disappointing, still, but more forgivable back then. bethesda kinda haven't actually refined their engine since 2002.

when i play oblivion or the nu-fallouts, i try to avoid fast travel as much as i can stand because it totally fractures the world. still, all you need is discipline to turn it into something that's just Nice To Have at the end of a night or something. an awful lot of morrowind is long meditative walks (waiting for your stamina bar to recharge). and let's be fair about vivec city, it might as well be a ruin. it's huge, yeah, but there is no one there. still morrowind's my favorite bethesda game aside from new vegas: the environment, the politics, and the fact that it's about living an adventurous life as an outsider on a volcanic island occupied by a distant imperial power, which aside from the adventurous part is how i grew up.

the only game ever to absolutely 100% blow me away w/r/t travel stuff btw was world of warcraft, which i never had the knack for (thank god) but which i did play a little; the first time i went to ride a gryphon taxi, expecting to be teleported across the world, and instead i actually flew over it in real time while real other players ran along the roads beneath me i was lol transported. of course that gets boring too, eventually.