Final Fantasy XIII: Momz 'R' Tuff

Who's getting it?

I don't have a PS3 ;_; may buy it just to stare at the back cover and imagine

i may get a ps3 tbh

The last one I played to completion was IX; started X, but it wasn't fun to play (pretty to look at though). I'm skipping this one I think.

IX was my last too except i never beat the final boss in that one. interested in this but probably won't pick up on release

you know this is coming out on 360, right?

Play Magazine's review of the Japanese release gave the game a score of 79%. They praised the quality and design of the graphics, the game's characters, and the fun battle gameplay, while the reviewer criticised the "contrived, linear" nature of the environment, noting "while greatly detailed, feels flat and lifeless [...] little more than wallpaper thrown over a tunnel that players walk through".

love that line.

my friend has been waiting for this for YEARS

he ordered it from japan (he speaks japanese)

he HATED IT :( :( :(

Also don't own a 360.

Why he hate?

he said it was boring, repetitive, a chore... i don't think you really do much besides push your characters in a predetermined direction and let the computer make all the combat decisions for u.

might try and start playing XII the week this comes out

love how Sega in their infinite wisdom decided to release Yakuza 3 (my prohibitive GotY 2k10) on the same day as FF13. I kinda want to buy it in a brick-and-mortar store in the hopes of being treated to a magnificent nerd tirade when I reveal how much of a non-shit I give about any FF game (other than 6).

http://www.product-reviews.net/2010/02/18/final-fantasy-xiii-xbox-360-version-is-not-hd-576p-confirmed/

this looks like total trash

anyone buying it?

ummmmmmmmm maybe? was kind of considering it.

I'm picking it up today. I hope it doesn't suck!

what i keep reading is that the first 20-25 hours is one long, tedious tutorial, and then they give you another 20 hours to actually play the game a s a reward if you make it that far. mordy, pls play non-stop for a couple of days and confirm/deny these rumors so i know if i should get it at the weekend.

that's the plan! winter break starts after class today.

reviews seem to say that the battle system is good, but it takes forever to get there via the numerous tutorials. i kinda get where they are going with the stripped down linearity though - FFX was a very linear game with loads of waffle between the big battles (blitzball ugh), streamlining that into more of a tactical boss rush thing might be a good idea, all depends how good the battle system is really. (now i think about it FFIV is extremely linear too.)

Aren't they all pretty linear up to a particular point when a bunch of sidequests open up?

complaining about linearity in a Final Fantasy game seems akin to complaining about platform jumping in a platform game

i guess, some are better at hiding it than others. this time they don't even seem to be trying to hide it though.

who decided linearity = bad? this is another trope in every review: "blahblahblah...but of course, being a FF game, it is very linear". yeah? no shit. it's not like there is a shortage of open world rpgs nowadays if you absolutely can;t do without.

"Sadly, the gameplay in 'Duck Hunt' never evolves beyond pointing a light gun at the screen and shooting ducks as they fly past."

the "WOW" (no, not that WOW) factor on this seems fairly high; I imagine it's killer eye and ear candy and that's pretty much the core of why i like the series.

depth of play is always a boon too; no one seems to be saying whether there's a lot of subquests deeper in the game but I imagine that's a symptom of reviewers rushing copy out on time...

my friend has already played, beat, and traded this game in; says it's pretty good

your friend is the tipping point in my spending my monthly gaming discretionary income on this, i will be making calls if they've steered me wrong.

lol he also thought Alice in wonderland was a good movie...?

okay now i am torn again

actually haven't tried either so i'm just easily manipulated

About six months ago I decided to DEFINITELY buy this, the only other FF I've ever played is 2 on DS. But the non-HD-on-360 thing is shocking! Plus I need to finish Mass Effect 2 first anyway. So feel free to keep talking me out of it, at least until it drops to £15.

alright, i bought it for ps3. will play a bit tonight and report back.

i want to buy this but i then i dont want to buy this. im of two minds abt it really

JimD- buy xii/viii instead

i think im going to make a wind palace in 3d studio max and then print it out and tape it above my workstation and i can look at while i work on lab reports seems basically the same

So far so good. Really gorgeous.

"Moms are tough." <-lulz

Okay, it's a problem when I'm LITERALLY spending more time watching your game than I am playing it. This is ridiculous.

The linearity of FFX was annnoying because the behind-the-character view made it feel like you were always traveling in a straight line -- literally.

Played till i hit the first save point, so about fifteen minutes.
Immediate impression is that the game is SUMPTUOUS and LUSH

I played the first three chapters. I'm kinda getting into it, actually.

keep veering between disgust and curiousity about this

maybe if I want pointy haired emo japanese shit I should just finish Lost Odyssey though

No one pointy haired this game! I actually think the characters are the best part.

guys you're meant to be talking me out of it not talking me into it.

I heard that this game will hammer spikes through your toes.

better.

I'm hitting the part where you need to strategize a ton to survive in combat and it's actually getting kinda tough. I tied a few times on non-boss fights until I started micro-managing my combat strategies.

tied = died btw

I really want this bt i'm a total glutton for punishment when it comes to final fantasy. Managed to work my way through the whole of ff10 and x-2.

all i've done so far is like push the left stick fwd and mash x. for 2 hours. still having fun tho.

this is an insanely good looking game.

but not very engaging

u kno what? i am playing this and even though every character in it is utterly unbearable i am having a great time. it's just an endless series of beautifully drawn and managed battles punctuated by flipping over to soup up your characters from time to time, loosely strung together by a story that is as compelling and necessary as the mortal kombat backstory. that's probably not the most compelling description in the world, but what can i say, it is really working for me.

i'm kind of enjoying this and i'm not sure why. i like szah and lightning (although i'm sure the storyline for her is going swiftly down the road marked "emo" soon enough.) the rest of the characters are awful though - thankfully all the cut scenes are skippable. how soon before you can pick who is in your party? i'm about 10 hours in.

here's the thing: i'm not playing this because i am more interested by shin megami tensei: devil survivor and that has to tell you something.

is devil survivor really good? or ff xiii just really boring

lil a both

really regret getting xiii tbh :/

might just turn it in for Just Cause 2 tmmrw

yeh gave up on this. couldn't face running down another corridor.

http://virtualbooktours.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/on-my-own-now.jpg

i imagine i WILL play this sooner or later but it's really not getting me.

Ha, i got rid of it a few weeks later. What a dog of a game.

terrible! agreed!

lol great thread

http://i.imgur.com/RxpAA.jpg

uh oh

sorry to hear that :/

I wonder if Gamefly will ever ship me my top pick even one time.

haha, not before i get mine i hope.
ps this game sucks

I am expecting to mostly press X for 40 hours. Is it worse than that?

I am expecting Desert Bus but without the bug part.

it's pretty but incomprehensible and no fun

it's like tron: the video game only not as good as tron the video game

man i did not like it when they made the english-language releases default to X instead of O

the battles get fun but the first 30 hours are painfully linear and slow. also all of the characters are punchable and the ending makes no sense.

the first 30 hours

yeah, I'm not gonna play this

haha

not an exaggeration

I wonder if Gamefly will ever ship me my top pick even one time.

never happened to me, fwiw. i have joined gamefly 3 times, quit twice. thinking about making that quit 3 times.

lol this game still sucks

opening week sales in Japan, the XIII series has been a disaster

Final Fantasy X - 1,749,737
Final Fantasy X-2 - 1,472,914
Final Fantasy XII - 1,840,397
Final Fantasy XIII - 1,501,964
Final Fantasy XIII-2 - 524,217
Final Fantasy XIII-3 - 277,082

wow, that's pretty bad

does that qualify as a disaster though? surely they didn't plan on getting Actual-Numbered-FF numbers from the offshoot games?

Like there's no way that XIII-2 and XIII-3 cost the same as XIII or even XII to produce? Right?

PuPu (コヨコヨ, Koyokoyo?) is a small blue alien that first appeared in Final Fantasy VIII...

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i suppose FFXIV was more of a disaster, these days it's hard to gauge which dumb decision Square makes hurts their main brand more. lol now i've just remembered the iOS game Final Fantasy All the Bravest.

Ok I have seen the PC release of FFXIII with Durante's GeDoSaTo graphics unlock and it is jaw-droppingly glorious! The game is also really a whole lot of fun, which I never expected from all the 'it's one long hallway' criticism. Tbh it doesn't feel all that less linear than FFX.

http://abload.de/img/ffxiiiimg2014-10-121347lfb.jpg

that's ... really bland and the flat environment textures are kinda unimpressive?

idk. ffx is also unfulfillingly linear! although really I guess by that I mean "does a poor job at maintaining a convincing enough aesthetic to disguise its linearity"; ff7 is hardly more open but is just ... less boring

looks fine to me, but i'm waiting for a PS3 trilogy pack with all of the XIIIs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2v_qbBt4sc&index=68&list=PL7C498688F14F6A0D

LOVE this song so much!

hmmmm.... so I beat this tonight. Really loses it's steam in those last chapters, just throwing waves of enemies that you have already been killing for hours at you, just not even bothering constructing a believable environment, let's just put the player on literal floating platforms. At one point I was running down a platform towards a boss and it was a bright red platform and it just felt like literally "rolling out the red carpet" for the end game boss fight. Which was a snooze. Don't get me wrong, the design of the bosses was cool and batshit enough, but I had a harder time fighting some non-boss enemies earlier. And yeah the story made no sense at all. If someone were to ask me to explain the plot of this to them, and had never heard of the game before, it would be an impossible task.

I enjoyed the game overall and the combat was the best part, but the leveling system was a total disaster imo. The Crystarium is a huge waste of time. Sure it looks nice and sounds cool but there is no reason at all for it - in fact, it is counter-productive! By not automating levels the game actually lets you mess yourself up. You will be leveling up and after several levels come to an offshoot and think "Oh neat, the game is presenting me with a choice, the first ever justification for me actually holding down these buttons to do this rather than letting the game handle it" and maybe you will skip it for that reason alone. BAD IDEA. Eventually you get towards end of game and your chosen roles are all LVL 4 (actually Crystarium Stage 9, which is just wtfgah....so confusing) and since you are trying to max out and yet can't go anywhere (cos the final level opens up AFTER YOU BEAT THE GAME (how brilliant is that)) you see some unaccessed levels wayyyyyy back in the distance there..... wayyyy somewhere below. You can't just hit the down arrow to go down to the previous level, you have to wind your way around these things that spiral in clockwise and counter-clockwise and go in whatever way they want to without any sense at all.

Really they should have just thrown out leveling or had it automated.

The backstory/world kind of makes sense ... until the ending, which is a total deus ex machina. The character motivations make no sense.

Regarding leveling. I hated Vanille, and I decided to ruin her by putting her XP into the most expensive jobs. Then after beating the game, I looked at FAQs and it turns out she was the one character required to do the optional late-game quests. Whoops. There really is only one correct way to level the characters; any divergence from it is a mistake.

You talking about the Death attack? Yeah it seems a lot of those late-game quests involve spamming Death until it works, and it's pretty random whether it will work or not. I used it to take down an Adamantoise once and it took me an hour of trying, dying, retrying, etc. The trick is to use her summon to knock it down and have your party members sabotage its attacks while Vanille spams death. You may get to cast it a dozen times before it gets up and one-hit kills everyone, but it's worth it for the Growth Egg (which gives you 2x CP).

I don't even remember.

how could you forget the growth egg
it gives you 2XCP

the guy with the bird in his hair just killed this game dead for me

I loved this game. Had some flaws, but a stunning beauty, some of my favourite combat, and an interesting (although yeah, flawed) story. Keen to dig my teeth into its sequels now.

Playing FFX right now and xiii is 100% the better game (though i am enjoying x)