loll
― ice cr?m, Friday, 17 December 2010 18:42 (thirteen years ago) link
ugh
xps
― kanellos (gbx), Friday, 17 December 2010 18:43 (thirteen years ago) link
bish is such a nasty name
― ice cr?m, Friday, 17 December 2010 18:45 (thirteen years ago) link
i also found his life advice to tiger woods pretty dbaggy though i don't recall the specifics at the moment.
― omar little, Friday, 17 December 2010 18:47 (thirteen years ago) link
the wnba digs always niggled at me the most, it just seems unnecessarily cruel. i mean i dont watch the stuff either, but i dont understand the hunger to marginalize it - crosses the line between lunkheaded insensitivity and outright bullying imo
everything else i can understand being turned off by too, but i hear (and say) stuff so much worse when im broing down (not in mixed company mind u~) that im pretty desensitized to it i guess
― Pussy v. Sperguson (Princess TamTam), Friday, 17 December 2010 18:48 (thirteen years ago) link
i think it's not so much the digs as the all encompassing worldview he seems to have, like this casual everyday attitude that women can't be your friends and are just *~~such hilarious creatures loool~~*
― omar little, Friday, 17 December 2010 18:52 (thirteen years ago) link
fwiw, i've definitely hung out with women who share an equally segregated view of the world---guys can't be your friends, and are such hilarious creatures, and ryde but boys will be boys, right girls??
it's alien to me, but it's out there you know
― kanellos (gbx), Friday, 17 December 2010 19:01 (thirteen years ago) link
i guess it's all part of being the broiest bro, but i don't really see why you would write about watching hours of porn/buddies' nicknames for dick moves etc. at all. let alone as a sports columnist. let alone in a published book about basketball.
the 'executive decision' with his wife (and then crowing about it!) is pretty fucking astonishing.
― mookieproof, Friday, 17 December 2010 19:05 (thirteen years ago) link
i dont understand how he made an "executive decision" not to use birth control
― max, Friday, 17 December 2010 19:06 (thirteen years ago) link
i mean he implies he did it in secret?
but like... did she not notice he wasnt using a condom?
also isnt that essentially rape
― max, Friday, 17 December 2010 19:07 (thirteen years ago) link
right, it's a bullshit anecdote imo
― kanellos (gbx), Friday, 17 December 2010 19:07 (thirteen years ago) link
true dat, and even though i tend to think it *feels* a little nastier coming from the dudes, either way it's just weird but still totally common. xxxxp
― omar little, Friday, 17 December 2010 19:07 (thirteen years ago) link
pretty much
― mookieproof, Friday, 17 December 2010 19:07 (thirteen years ago) link
i'm assuming that the birth control thing is just a really terrible joke
― return of the nakh (J0rdan S.), Friday, 17 December 2010 19:08 (thirteen years ago) link
he just wanted to "coin" "pulling the goalie"
― kanellos (gbx), Friday, 17 December 2010 19:08 (thirteen years ago) link
horribly formed joeks
― mookieproof, Friday, 17 December 2010 19:09 (thirteen years ago) link
it's kind of a fucked up mind that would think that joke is a good one to tell imo
― omar little, Friday, 17 December 2010 19:09 (thirteen years ago) link
it's all part of being the broiest bro
yup. he and his buds are getting immortalized in his columns as just the funniest, rowdiest, best buds ever. i mean, "the hangover" was basically a simmons column taken to its logical conclusions, with simmons' character spending the night on the roof
― kanellos (gbx), Friday, 17 December 2010 19:11 (thirteen years ago) link
h8 this guys compulsive need to validate his worldview more than his worldview tbh, funny how bro culture is all abt being on the same page at all times, not exactly traditional masculinity
― ice cr?m, Friday, 17 December 2010 19:11 (thirteen years ago) link
i think the 'segregated world view' is a red herring, idk - i dont think it means anything if u only wanna be friends w/dudes, i know plenty of people like that who manage to not publish a hardcover book containing a joke about raping your wife and then giving it a nickname like it's a wrestling move
― Pussy v. Sperguson (Princess TamTam), Friday, 17 December 2010 19:12 (thirteen years ago) link
his columns have always been littered with his pet neologisms and Rules and Theories and w/e. i know plenty of ppl that fucking LOVE coming up with shit like that, making up yr own in-crowd funny-guy cant that, in simmons' case, he seems to eagerly hope will enter the popular lexicon.
i mean i don't follow sports, and haven't read a sports guy column in years, but the Ewing Theory is permanently etched into my brain as 'conventional wisdom' now
― kanellos (gbx), Friday, 17 December 2010 19:14 (thirteen years ago) link
funny how bro culture is all abt being on the same page at all times, not exactly traditional masculinity― ice cr?m, Friday, December 17, 2010 1:11 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark
― ice cr?m, Friday, December 17, 2010 1:11 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark
word
and it's not just about only wanting to be friends with dudes, its that being friends with women is impossible and sort of unthinkable. that blog that was just linked made an excellent point, that i think is totally fundamental to how he operates: he just assumes that women could never in a million years be a part of his sports-y world. like women can be sports fans, but they can't be Sports Fans. his wife being the Sports Gal is just an honorific---she's married to the Sports Guy! who else could she be!
― kanellos (gbx), Friday, 17 December 2010 19:18 (thirteen years ago) link
funny how bro culture is all abt being on the same page at all times, not exactly traditional masculinity
― ice cr?m, Friday, December 17, 2010 2:11 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark
this is kinda bullshit, i mean its 'bro' culture not rugged individualist culture - its about celebrating bonds w/likeminded dudes, there's no deception there
― Pussy v. Sperguson (Princess TamTam), Friday, 17 December 2010 19:19 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah i mean i've got friends w/segregated world views and they're not particularly mean about it. iirc some of them have even been to wnba games so w/e
― omar little, Friday, 17 December 2010 19:20 (thirteen years ago) link
xp well it's not that bullshit, in that these guys seem to couch their conceptions of masculinity almost entirely in broing down. if yr just going off simmons' worldview, 'rugged individualism' is something for the greats in the Pantheon, not regular men.
― kanellos (gbx), Friday, 17 December 2010 19:23 (thirteen years ago) link
― Pussy v. Sperguson (Princess TamTam), Friday, December 17, 2010 2:19 PM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permal
i wasnt saying hes trying to represent something other than bro culture just that i dont vibe it
― ice cr?m, Saturday, 18 December 2010 00:50 (thirteen years ago) link
btw i love the term 'bro culture'
ugggh that executive decision anecdote
― dayo, Saturday, 18 December 2010 00:59 (thirteen years ago) link
loooool is simmons really against the idea of playing fantasy sports with a female
also lol at bill simmons employing "some of my best friends are black" argument
Sometimes I like just hanging out with my guy friends. My wife likes hanging out with her friends.
― dayo, Saturday, 18 December 2010 11:20 (thirteen years ago) link
it was too bad, feel like I could have been tricked into reading this book, no longer
he really should carve out the pyramid and sell an aggressively edited 100 pg novella size version of it every other year after the finals- like how sedaris sells those same three stories as holidays on ice every effing xmas-- would read and would cut out nearly all the unnecessary "cool story bro" trash
― i see you're still wearing bs on tv (agent hibachi), Monday, 20 December 2010 00:58 (thirteen years ago) link
should build a pyramid, blog from inside
― ice cr?m, Monday, 20 December 2010 01:30 (thirteen years ago) link
"i also found his life advice to tiger woods pretty dbaggy though i don't recall the specifics at the moment."
I mostly recall his insane bit comparing Woods comeback to Ali's comeback.
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Monday, 20 December 2010 19:04 (thirteen years ago) link
his understanding of gender and women and possibly life rises to the level of a bud light ad
― omar little, Monday, 20 December 2010 19:05 (thirteen years ago) link
replicate? bud light?
HERE WE GO!
― wiz kelefa sanneh claus (m bison), Monday, 20 December 2010 19:05 (thirteen years ago) link
sportsguy33 Bill SimmonsCome on, UConn women! One half to go! #espnforcedmetotypethistheyareholdingaguntomyheadrightnowhelppleasesendhelp1 minute ago
― I Am Kurious Assange (polyphonic), Wednesday, 22 December 2010 01:03 (thirteen years ago) link
he has a daughter, right?
― max, Wednesday, 22 December 2010 01:08 (thirteen years ago) link
good luck 2 her
is that your comedy hash tag or did he really write that - if the latter that's pretty O_o
― dayo, Wednesday, 22 December 2010 01:08 (thirteen years ago) link
no he really wrote that
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 22 December 2010 01:08 (thirteen years ago) link
man, are there any non-shitty sportswriters at all? like who write intersting and are not douche bags?
― wiz kelefa sanneh claus (m bison), Wednesday, 22 December 2010 01:15 (thirteen years ago) link
i like brian philips but i'm guessing you mean someone from the MSM
― just woke up (lukas), Wednesday, 22 December 2010 01:16 (thirteen years ago) link
joe posnanski
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 22 December 2010 01:17 (thirteen years ago) link
i'll take any1 at this point
― wiz kelefa sanneh claus (m bison), Wednesday, 22 December 2010 01:18 (thirteen years ago) link
roger angell is still alive
― just woke up (lukas), Wednesday, 22 December 2010 01:19 (thirteen years ago) link
bob ryan seems like a decent guy from what I've heard of him on PTI, never read his stuff tho
― dayo, Wednesday, 22 December 2010 01:20 (thirteen years ago) link
In May 2003, Ryan appeared on Sports Final, a local sports talk show airing on WBZ-TV. At that time, Ryan said that Joumana Kidd, then-wife of then-New Jersey Nets guard Jason Kidd needed someone to "smack" her for taking her son T.J., then 4 years old, to NBA play-off night games where they could be taunted.[22] He accused Joumana of being an exhibitionist and using the child as a prop to get television time.
― johnny crunch, Wednesday, 22 December 2010 01:30 (thirteen years ago) link
was gonna say, old ass writer gonna have some baggage
― wiz kelefa sanneh claus (m bison), Wednesday, 22 December 2010 01:31 (thirteen years ago) link