its funny because there are so many celtics in the hall that really dont deserve to be there why not just go ahead and throw those guys in too
― lag∞n, Saturday, 21 September 2013 00:08 (eleven years ago) link
Cedric "Cornbread" Maxwell did have a hof nickname, just not a hof career.
― Aimless, Saturday, 21 September 2013 01:50 (eleven years ago) link
― lag∞n, Friday, September 20, 2013 8:08 PM (Yesterday)
this has basically been the crux of most of the push for an inclusive hall - like we already have girls AAU coaches and shit, just let everyone in i guess, the horse has left the barn
― druhilla (k3vin k.), Saturday, 21 September 2013 05:39 (eleven years ago) link
obv i disagree and i think only dominant players should be in there. chauncey was never one of the 5 best players in the league
― druhilla (k3vin k.), Saturday, 21 September 2013 05:43 (eleven years ago) link
he did do that thing where he threw the ball at Kobe's butt tho
― Clay, Saturday, 21 September 2013 05:51 (eleven years ago) link
they shd just make a new nba hall of fame obvs
― lag∞n, Saturday, 21 September 2013 13:46 (eleven years ago) link
will draymond green be a hall of famer?http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/23719457/draymond-green-hall-fame-golden-state-warriors
― they call me melo gelo (Spottie), Friday, 8 June 2018 17:08 (six years ago) link
Does Iguodala have a case for the HoF?
I’m one of like two or three players to win 3 nba championships, a finals mvp, an Olympic gold, and a world championship gold and announce a major golf event... and I’m weak as hell to some people!— Andre Iguodala (@andre) August 15, 2018
I would say no as of now but maybe if he snags another ring or two maybe
― InfoWarriors (Spottie), Wednesday, 15 August 2018 19:49 (six years ago) link
announcing the golf event really seals the deal imo
― reggae mike love (polyphonic), Wednesday, 15 August 2018 20:07 (six years ago) link
haha he was feeling himself last weekend.
― InfoWarriors (Spottie), Wednesday, 15 August 2018 20:10 (six years ago) link
forgot about his Finals MVP. Idk he was never top 25 in league was he? Feel like that's a requirement.
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 15 August 2018 20:17 (six years ago) link
do they still have the room where theres a bunch of basketball hoops of different heights and distances and a conveyor belt of balls to shoot at them? that was my favorite part when i was a kid
― ciderpress, Wednesday, 15 August 2018 20:20 (six years ago) link
nope been replaced with a twitter beef sim room
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 15 August 2018 20:56 (six years ago) link
haha
― InfoWarriors (Spottie), Wednesday, 15 August 2018 21:20 (six years ago) link
lol
bball ref has him at 6.1% hof probability. feel like he's only in if you're grading him on a '60s celtics role player curve, but maybe the 2010s warriors role player curve is the same? his peak was as the best player on some mediocre but interesting sixers teams.
― circles, Wednesday, 15 August 2018 23:57 (six years ago) link
Idk he was never top 25 in league was he? Feel like that's a requirement.― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, August 15, 2018 1:17 PM (three hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, August 15, 2018 1:17 PM (three hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i think he was in those prime years with phi, averaging around 20/5/5 + 2 steals and great defense.
― InfoWarriors (Spottie), Thursday, 16 August 2018 00:10 (six years ago) link
Is Joe Johnson a hall of famer? Because he put up better numbers on better teams for a longer time.
I wouldn't put either of them in.
― EZ Snappin, Thursday, 16 August 2018 00:56 (six years ago) link
lmao come on iguodala is not a hall of famer
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 16 August 2018 00:58 (six years ago) link
awards are great but you need to like, put up numbers to be a hall of famer
if you put someone at iggy's level in then you gotta put in, like, way way way too many people. like is sheed a hall of famer? elton brand? peja? one-time all-stars don't get into the hall at this point or it would be a crowded place.
― Clay, Thursday, 16 August 2018 01:06 (six years ago) link
people are so uncomfortable with the hall of very good as a concept but all those guys have deserving places in it!
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 16 August 2018 01:08 (six years ago) link
if you played ball at a high level for 10+ years fans will remember you for the rest of their lives. that's fantastic and should be celebrated, but it doesn't put you in the h.o.f.
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 16 August 2018 01:09 (six years ago) link
The one-time all-star HOF is at Jamaal Magloire's house.
― EZ Snappin, Thursday, 16 August 2018 01:15 (six years ago) link
I’ll go contrary and say yes bc he had numbers as a yoot and transformed himself into a key role player for multiple title team
If it weren’t for t he finals mvp I’d say no
I also wouldn’t be mad if the final judgement is no and he’s in the hall of very good
― gritty tigger reboot (agent hibachi), Friday, 17 August 2018 15:04 (six years ago) link
His importance to the second two warriors titles is obviously a lot lower and arguably doesn’t do a lot for him but I’m gonna allow it
― gritty tigger reboot (agent hibachi), Friday, 17 August 2018 15:05 (six years ago) link
idk man they looked pretty rough without him in the rockets series. but i think he deserved 6moy two years back and that wouldve helped his case as well.
― InfoWarriors (Spottie), Friday, 17 August 2018 16:23 (six years ago) link
He's very good, which is why he's in the hall of very good.
― reggae mike love (polyphonic), Friday, 17 August 2018 17:27 (six years ago) link
I agree. I think the Hall should be very restrictive and elite. Plus feel there should be an emotional quality to it, rather than just adding up stats and awards in some formula. Like I can't ever seen someone telling their kids/grandkids "Man, you should've seen Iguodala play in his prime, what a time to be alive..."
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Friday, 17 August 2018 17:43 (six years ago) link
As a promotional gimmick, the whole Hall of Fame gig has been a screaming success for baseball, football and basketball alike, kind of like the Oscars do for Hollywood. Even the players buy into it as a genuine honor. But, like the Oscars, the honors are bestowed according to no discernible rationale. Nobody needs the HOF to tell us that Kareem or Oscar Robertson were all-time greats and the borderline cases who get in or don't get in seem to do so pretty randomly. I pay almost no attention to it.
― A is for (Aimless), Friday, 17 August 2018 18:13 (six years ago) link
same, just something to shoot the shit about in the offseason
― InfoWarriors (Spottie), Friday, 17 August 2018 18:16 (six years ago) link
Like I can't ever seen someone telling their kids/grandkids "Man, you should've seen Iguodala play in his prime, what a time to be alive..."
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Friday, August 17, 2018 1:43 PM (two hours ago) Bookmark
― sprout god (lag∞n), Friday, 17 August 2018 20:09 (six years ago) link
it's true. but i probably wouldnt think that for like 60% of the players in the hall
― InfoWarriors (Spottie), Friday, 17 August 2018 20:32 (six years ago) link
ts: ron harper vs andre iguodala
(i don't actually remember harper well)
― circles, Saturday, 18 August 2018 01:22 (six years ago) link
similar career arcs iirc both did numbers on blah to bad teams then aged into super role players on dynasties
― sprout god (lag∞n), Saturday, 18 August 2018 01:26 (six years ago) link
yup. through the lens of the modern game iguodala is probably more valuable but zoom out and their careers look an awful lot alike.
― call all destroyer, Saturday, 18 August 2018 01:30 (six years ago) link
incidentally i voted for harp in our role player hall of fame....which i will eventually vote iguodala into assuming we are all still alive.
― call all destroyer, Saturday, 18 August 2018 01:31 (six years ago) link
dont think hes eligible
― sprout god (lag∞n), Saturday, 18 August 2018 01:32 (six years ago) link
yeah he was an all-star once pretty sure that rules him out
― Clay, Saturday, 18 August 2018 01:35 (six years ago) link
oh true he made an allstar.
i'd be down w/opening that criteria up to guys who have made 1 allstar, maybe even 2 although i'd want to see a list.
― call all destroyer, Saturday, 18 August 2018 01:35 (six years ago) link
Robert Horry for the right place right time hall of fame.
― Jeff, Saturday, 18 August 2018 01:36 (six years ago) link
'88-'89 cavs that won 57 games with harper, mark price, and brad daugherty all scoring ~19 ppg and lost in the first round to the bulls is basically the perfect hall of very good team.
― circles, Saturday, 18 August 2018 03:12 (six years ago) link
lol, they also had larry nance sr.
― circles, Saturday, 18 August 2018 03:14 (six years ago) link
― circles, Wednesday, August 15, 2018 7:57 PM (two days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
don’t forget best player on a not-mediocre and interesting 2012 nuggets team...
― k3vin k., Saturday, 18 August 2018 03:18 (six years ago) link
yeah those interesting late 80s cavs teams are classic Very Good. ppl who were going nuts over that hawks team with 4 all-stars should have been thinking about the late 80s cavs. having read bob ryan and terry pluto's 48 minutes 60 times or so back in the day i will always have time for those teams.
― call all destroyer, Saturday, 18 August 2018 03:21 (six years ago) link
xpost
no joke a couple days ago this thread had me thinking that iggy might have finished more andre miller lobs that just about anyone and i found this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1GItQ16QEY
― circles, Saturday, 18 August 2018 03:24 (six years ago) link
god it is so painful to think about how that season ended and him going to the warriors the next year
― k3vin k., Saturday, 18 August 2018 03:26 (six years ago) link
bball ref has him at 6.1% hof probability. feel like he's only in if you're grading him on a '60s celtics role player curve
his #1 comp on bbref is bob cousy (slightly more than a role player but still) so props to you for this
― call all destroyer, Saturday, 18 August 2018 03:26 (six years ago) link
lowe and howard beck talked about a lot of this on the newest lowe post. i didn't realize how weird and opaque the selection for the basketball hall is! like it's not even really public who's on the honors committee that votes on hof entry.
― circles, Monday, 10 September 2018 02:32 (six years ago) link
oh nice gonna check that
― Machine Gunk Jelly (Spottie), Monday, 10 September 2018 02:36 (six years ago) link
the selection process makes the hof really un-fun to talk about tho i thought lowe and beck did as good as you can do.
― call all destroyer, Monday, 10 September 2018 02:58 (six years ago) link
the media may speak it into existencehttps://www.nbcsports.com/philadelphia/nba-insider-tom-haberstroh/andre-iguodala-no-stats-hall-famer
― easy ball shooter (Spottie), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 00:37 (five years ago) link
Has anyone actually visited the Basketball Hall of Fame in Springfield? Friend and I are thinking of a road trip in the Spring to Mass and thinking of stopping there.
― Har Mar Klobuchar (PBKR), Monday, 17 February 2020 23:44 (four years ago) link
i went when my family visited the boston area when i was like 12 or 13 and i remember absolutely nothing about it so there ya go
― Clay, Tuesday, 18 February 2020 02:27 (four years ago) link
ive driven past it innumerable times its right by the highway
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 18 February 2020 04:54 (four years ago) link
the volleyball hall of fame is in the next town over its called the volleyhall if you were wondering
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 18 February 2020 04:55 (four years ago) link
you can see the basketball hof from the train too fwiw
Lol, these aren't exactly ringing endorsements.
― Har Mar Klobuchar (PBKR), Tuesday, 18 February 2020 18:51 (four years ago) link
I've never been there, but I can imagine it. what could be more exciting than seeing wall-sized photos of famous players sweating, displays of old jerseys hung on dressmakers dummies, wall-sized lists of lifetime statistics, and darkened rooms playing endless clips of games played decades ago?
― A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 18 February 2020 18:58 (four years ago) link
while youre in boston you can go to the jfk library and look at his shoes
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 18 February 2020 19:02 (four years ago) link
JFK's shoes would get lost inside Bob Lanier's shoes.
― A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 18 February 2020 19:21 (four years ago) link
cmon jalen lol
"Jamal Crawford is a multi-time Sixth Man of the Year. He deserves to be in the Hall of Fame. He does moves unlike anybody... He is 1 of 4 people to score 40 points for four different teams." @JalenRose says @JCrossover should be a HOFer.pic.twitter.com/2go18j3KRZ— ClutchPoints (@ClutchPointsApp) August 2, 2022
― Spottie, Tuesday, 2 August 2022 21:30 (two years ago) link
he deserves to be in cos he has a nice mixtape cooking people
lol, we need to introduce jalen to the hollafame
― circles, Tuesday, 2 August 2022 22:46 (two years ago) link
haha for sure.
he was a certified disaster in the playoffs
― Spottie, Tuesday, 2 August 2022 22:50 (two years ago) link
pretty sure Jalen is already a hollafame inductee
― symsymsym, Wednesday, 3 August 2022 01:59 (two years ago) link
so how many of these guys from the 2012 original post actually made it? we never saw a Josh Smith HOF class...
Hall-worthy or not?Player pTOT %CHANCEKevin Love 146.6 82Josh Smith 145.7 82Tracy McGrady 144.1 82Elton Brand 138.9 75Chauncey Billups 130.7 63Manu Ginobili 126.9 59Vince Carter 124.4 59Shawn Marion 122.9 57Russell Westbrook 122.8 57Andre Iguodala 121.9 57Marcus Camby 115.7 53Baron Davis 115.5 53Deron Williams 114.5 53Ryan Anderson 113.3 53Blake Griffin 111.5 52Andrew Bynum 110.9 52Andrei Kirilenko 110.5 52Chris Bosh 109.0 49Al Jefferson 107.5 47Ben Wallace 105.3 43Greg Monroe 105.2 42Grant Hill 104.5 42Carmelo Anthony 104.3 42Tony Parker 100.8 39
― symsymsym, Wednesday, 3 August 2022 02:03 (two years ago) link
It's the 4th Annual I Love Hoops NBA Role Player Hollafame - Class of 2021 Inductees
jalen's entry
― terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Wednesday, 3 August 2022 02:06 (two years ago) link
lol what is it with nba guys and jamal crawford. i mean i know what it is but still.
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 3 August 2022 02:48 (two years ago) link
its like famous musicians who fawn over legendary session guys
― terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Wednesday, 3 August 2022 03:41 (two years ago) link
xpost, i meant we need to tell jalen about this illustrious hoops institution of which he is already a member that would also be perfect for jamal
― circles, Wednesday, 3 August 2022 03:44 (two years ago) link
indeed, i would think jamal is on his way there
he last played in 19-20 though so has a couple years to go
― Lavator Shemmelpennick, Wednesday, 3 August 2022 16:44 (two years ago) link
it is actually kind of surprising he never made an all-star game. wouldn't have expected it when he was a starter but in one of those 6MOY years, when the last roster spot or 2 on the team goes to a people's choice, fun story type guy. jamal as the preeminent 6th man in the league for several years and teams was nothing if not a people's choice fun story
― Lavator Shemmelpennick, Wednesday, 3 August 2022 16:45 (two years ago) link
jalen rose never making an allstar team is the really crazy one he was the best player on a team that went to the finals
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 3 August 2022 16:48 (two years ago) link
clearly a deep ops to maintain his eligibility for the hollafame
― Lavator Shemmelpennick, Thursday, 4 August 2022 01:40 (two years ago) link
i sort of forget that the 2000 pacers made it to the finals. jalen should have gotten one of allan houston's all-star spots. honestly looking at them now those 2000 & 2001 east all-star teams were bizarre, lots of inefficient scoring wings and veteran bigs who were totally not stars.
― circles, Thursday, 4 August 2022 02:06 (two years ago) link
The best 10-year stretch of LaMarcus Aldridge's career...22.6 PTS, 9.6 REB, 2.3 AST, 1.1 BLK, 0.9 STL per 75 possessions, -0.3 rTS%, +2.1 Box +/-, +5.6 NetRtg (+6.9 swing)His Hall of Fame probability on Basketball Reference is 50.9%.Would you put him in the hall? https://t.co/ZV6oC7Lz8y— Andy Bailey (@AndrewDBailey) March 31, 2023
― four square ups... no punches thrown (Spottie), Friday, 31 March 2023 22:13 (one year ago) link
hall of really good
― Clay, Friday, 31 March 2023 22:17 (one year ago) link
Yup
― four square ups... no punches thrown (Spottie), Friday, 31 March 2023 23:38 (one year ago) link
Dwyane Wade and Dirk Nowitzki are among the six people who will make up the Naismith Memorial Basketball Hall of Fame Class of 2023, ESPN reported Tuesday night.
Wade and Nowitzki will be joined by international legends Paul Gasol and Tony Parker, longtime Spurs coach Gregg Popovich and six-time WNBA All-Star Becky Hammon, per the report.
awesome class this year
― symsymsym, Saturday, 1 April 2023 02:03 (one year ago) link
Really thought Paul Gasol was due, great work CBC
― symsymsym, Saturday, 1 April 2023 02:04 (one year ago) link
hall of spurs
― slai gorgeous-alexander (m bison), Saturday, 1 April 2023 03:36 (one year ago) link
(with special consideration for spurs victims)
just on historical precedent LMA should be a HOFer - 7 time all star, 5 time all-nba is nothing to sneeze at. what he’s really missing, aside from the eye test of being a dominant player, is the postseason success. Only made it out of the first round with Portland once and then as a spur ran into the dubs dynasty (and kawhi’s ankle meeting zaza’s foot)
― Lavator Shemmelpennick, Saturday, 1 April 2023 18:03 (one year ago) link