i have something to say about the offseason THE 2016 NBA OFFSEASON

yeah all that winning is really arrogant of them

j/k, i know what you mean

can we keep the lame normy takes outta this thread

good one

wanting a 73 win team to get another all star is a more interesting opinion ur right

Feel like they were sufficiently humbled a couple weeks back

about half of the reason i'm happy this happened is because i know it'll offend so many delicate first-take-informed sensibilities of casual fans

http://www.si.com/nba/2016/07/04/draymond-green-kevin-durant-warriors-nba-free-agency-thunder

draymond's account of the move

can you imagine how absolutely furious about this wilbon will be

stephen A has already called it the "weakest move my a superstar ever"

so many macho opinions from macho men!

GSW getting zaza for 3m is criminal

They maybe got slightly better at C

Warriors could beat this year's Olympic team (tho Klay would have a pretty busy day guarding himself)

zaza is 32 and will probably regress

He's also v bad at defense and Rim protection which is really all they need from a center

He's also v bad at defense and Rim protection which is really all they need from a center

Otoh both of his arms work

He'll be fine and that's a great price obv

zaza is 32 and will probably regress

Bogut will be 32 in two months and had a significant injury yet again

Andrew Bogut more like Andrew Bigot amirite.

I thought we were in a new era where big men didn't matter what happened to that

someone tried to beat smallball by getting every rebound and it worked iirc

there is a flight tracker of a plane from miami to cleveland that's bouncing around my twitter

just sayin

I doubt Wade gives them much more than they got from JRpert in the playoffs but I guess he could have a renaissance

he averaged 21, 5.5, 4.3 on 47% from the floor in the playoffs last year, nothing to shake your head at

What the fuck

Free agent guard Seth Curry is finalizing a two-year, $6M deal with the Dallas Mavericks, league sources tell @TheVertical.

he also made like half of his career 3s in those last couple games vs hornets

Harrison Barnes getting the max and Curry getting 3m is not a rational marketplace

is this the start of some movie where the 2 brothers switch places and no one notices

I read that as Stephen Curry the first time and was really confused

lol that mavs squad will still win like 48 games most likely

I thought we were in a new era where big men didn't matter what happened to that

― Matt Armstrong, Monday, July 4, 2016 8:29 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

someone tried to beat smallball by getting every rebound and it worked iirc

― ciderpress, Monday, July 4, 2016 9:32 PM (40 minutes ago) Bookmark

well big men matter during the regular season because playing small exclusively would be too physically taxing. but the cavs won game 7 w/o playing a traditional center which makes 2 straight champions that severely deemphasized the position.

you need big men to bang during the regular season & during the playoffs ideally you have big men to be flexible depending on the matchup or series but the best teams are playing small. okc's run in the playoffs could maybe be a counterpoint to that but even they were at their absolute best w/ kd at the 4.

& even teams w/ dominant centers (pistons, 2016 heat, 2015 rockets) wanna play "small" w/ a combo of guards & wings or in the case of the rockets want to play 4 out w/ a traditional stretch 4

what could have been

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m4fzup5hAw1qgcd16o1_1280.jpg

the thunder should trade steven adams for james harden

can someone with good hoops acumen explain why this has happened? is it (a) lots more dudes are better at shooting 3s (b) illegality of handsy defense, (c) something else?

i'm interested mostly in how this affects @7A_NBA

https://twitter.com/7A_NBA?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

can someone with good hoops acumen explain why this has happened? is it (a) lots more dudes are better at shooting 3s (b) illegality of handsy defense, (c) something else?

― 6 god none the richer (m bison), Monday, July 4, 2016 10:36 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark

i think it's that the league realized the value of the 3 pointer and so guys who can't shoot are gradually being filtered out of rotations and/or the nba. it seems like playing thru the post is generally matchup dependent now. also a lot of teams are valuing centers who can guard out to and along the perimeter, and that requires a level of athleticism that prob negatively correlates with post moves.

also consequently teams fully realize the value of spacing that comes from having good shotoers.

the flip side is that guys like demarcus cousins are especially unguardable but teams realize it takes an especially skilled or overwhelming post player to emphasize that part of an offense over the spacey/shooty style

also zone defences make it really difficult to post up unmolested

gonna be kind of awkward on team USA with durant/barnes/dray/klay all there huh

You know I bet Barnes is p happy.

yeah barnes seems like one of those guys who lacks an edge and will be happy getting paid on a bad team

& even teams w/ dominant centers (pistons, 2016 heat, 2015 rockets) wanna play "small" w/ a combo of guards & wings or in the case of the rockets want to play 4 out w/ a traditional stretch 4

Whiteside is the only of those three who could credibly be called dominant imo

I thought we were in a new era where big men didn't matter what happened to that

― Matt Armstrong, Monday, July 4, 2016 8:29 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

someone tried to beat smallball by getting every rebound and it worked iirc

― ciderpress, Monday, July 4, 2016 9:32 PM (40 minutes ago) Bookmark

well big men matter during the regular season because playing small exclusively would be too physically taxing. but the cavs won game 7 w/o playing a traditional center which makes 2 straight champions that severely deemphasized the position.

The Warriors played traditional centers 80% of the time.

kinda weird that KD is younger than Steph. feels like he's been in the league so much longer.

Just had a thought that dray klay kd curry and jerry west should all head over to Larry Sanders' house and have a little chat

so warriors/thunder has to be xmas day feature game right, assuming they don't trade Russ in a panic

If it's true that horford would have signed with the thunder that would be hard to swallow for OKC

a tale of two centers

http://i.imgur.com/JuPKH6m.png

league moves fast