i have something to say about the offseason THE 2016 NBA OFFSEASON

Cle
Tor
Ind
Bos
Atl
NY
Det
Chi

I think Charlotte barely misses, they lost some depth and marvin williams / nic batum were on contract years last year so i think they regress

― Spottie, Wednesday, October 12, 2016 2:07 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

agree w/ most of the teams in that list altho in slightly diff order: CLE/BOS/TOR/IND/ATL/DET/CHA/CHI

i think clifford's coaching intellect will make enough lemonade out of certain lemons (like hibbert) to keep them right at the threshold

NYK would make the offs, all things being equal, over chicago - but i'd bet on butler/rondo/wade staying healthier than rose/noah

disappointed in all these non-believers of the orlando magic theory

think they'll be more competitive but they have some major issues w that roster. really deep at the 4/5 with four guys that could start. they are talking about moving gordon to the 3 but that's not ideal.

elfrid, fournier, gordon, ibaka, vooch is an interesting starting 5 but that bench looks thin on paper

the bledsoe/knight/booker/warren/len lineup has been fun to watch

I bought a ticket to the one game the Bulls come to Phoenix this season and I'm more excited to see Suns than my Bulls. Trying to decide if I want to buy Knicks/Suns tix too. They're cheap!

nice, i want to buy tix to the knix game too. i went in on some season tix with some friends and got 8 games. i won the first pick (warriors obv), some other highlights include both yungwolves games, okc and the pacers. missed out on cavs and knicks. kinda pumped for 2016-17 suns for sure, should be a fun team.

hopefully PHX crowd will improve too. kinda cool to be able to take over their arena w/fellow Bulls fans but depressing in the long run.

i need to get some tickets this year but im worried its gonna be impossible

yeah i think the booker hype train is gaining some steam. i am p embarrassed as a warriors fan at the suns/dubs games here now. used to just be like 40 of us spread out giving polite nods of respect to each-other, now its a home game. xp

i still havent seen lebro in person so i might try and get into that one anyway.

to boo him obv

i've seen all the active Great Players live except the ones on the dubs but the dubs-celtics home game is really soon and i suspect tix will be not worth the pain to get

we should do an official predictions thread but i think the bulls will be a borderline disaster

i'm not sure the bulls have much to look forward to on either end of the ball. notable offensive issues aside, their defense will depend a lot on how engaged wade/butler are (because rondo has proven that his solid defense days are behind him). it is hard to conceive of an outcome for the bulls that isn't a total shitshow

i mean they have a lot of like solid vets or w/e but I'm just not seeing how the pieces will fit together?

mcbuckets may have to play 40 minutes a game to help warp the defense a bit

they will be in bottom 5 for 3pters and you just won't win many games in today's nba if that happens. not unless you are utterly dominant in at least a couple other areas and they aren't even close to that.

bulls will the the rockets of the East imo, maybe the 8th seed. maybe.

rockets will be quite a bit better than the bulls

on offense, certainly, but on the defensive end it's going to be bad for houston

i'm actually kind of excited to see houston's offense this yr, if harden gets dialed in this could be a fun team to watch

bulls will be boring as usual but probably less so with wade. nowhere near as fun in a shitshow way as the '15-'16 rockets.

yeah obvs feel like houston has a lot of variance with a new coach/new players/injury history but i think their ceilings pretty high particularly if they can get harden playing unselfish basketball they cld ba an absolute juggernaut on offense

agree w everyone that the bulls will be dire, bunch of grumpy guys who like having the ball and cant shoot

wade's transition to old man career has been better than expected but i just don't see him/it holding up this year

rondo is awful and is going to make everyone miserable, jimmy butler was already miserable last year... it all seems very bad to me

maybe they cn assemble the banana boat next year

i hope so.

maybe philly will sell their soul for it and that was the process all along

poor Hoiberg, gets almost a totally new roster and it still is the opposite of what his "system" needs

Paul Pierce on SiriusXM NBA Radio:

I’m an old-school guy. I’m a competitor. I never believed that – when you want to be the best, you’ve to beat the best. That’s always been something that’s driven me. Today’s day and age, a lot of these guys are friends. That’s like if Bird decided to go play with Magic or something. These guys, I think the competition makes the game what is.

And Oklahoma, I felt like, was a contending team. They had Golden State on the ropes. I understand when you have great players on losing teams who are tired of losing, struggling in the playoffs every year. You’re the lone star. I’ve been in that position. I could have left Boston years ago, but I stuck it out. I just feel like when you’re that close, as a competitor, you don’t go join the team that just put you out.

That’s just me personally, but we’re living in a day and time where there’s a new generation. Guys I don’t think they are as hungry or competitive as my generation was, and that’s why you’ll probably see more of that.

Draymond:

What are your thoughts on the continued rhetoric surrounding Durant’s decision?

GREEN: “I just wonder at what point do they get bored talking about the same thing. You got all these guys talking. Like (Paul) Pierce today, like, dude nobody care what you did or who you did it for. Just give it a break. Everybody got something to say and want to take everything he say and twist it. Like, he play with the Warriors. OKC has their team, we have our team. He left there. Nobody complain when somebody leave Apple and go to Google. Aren’t they in competition with each other? Nobody talk junk about the CEO who leaves Apple and goes to Google. As a basketball player, you are the CEO of a business. You are a business. Kevin Durant is a big business. He is the CEO of that business. So him going to play basketball for a different team, the CEO decided to leave where he was at and go somewhere else.”

“But there’s so many guys in this league that are so stupid they don’t think like that. They don’t think business wise. It happens every day in the world. But in basketball it’s a problem. Aren’t you competitive in your day job if you work for Apple? Don’t you want to outdo Google? What’s the difference on the basketball court. It’s your day job. You want to do what’s better for you. If it’s better for your family life, better for your happiness. Ain’t no one criticizing them. I don’t understand it. I’ll never understand it. So that’s just me. And I’d be willing to bet my salary ain’t many guys in this league more competitive than me.”

How has Kevin been behind the scenes with this stuff?

GREEN: “He’s been himself. No one is worried about that. He laugh at it the times I’ve seen it. It’s a joke for real. Like these dudes got kids and they worried about what this grown man is doing with his life? Give it a break.”

paul pierce otm

naaahhh

smh bise

dray otm

somebody's gotta hate, better be me

paul pierce has been ring chasing the past 4 seasons and is gonna be a hall of famer because he was fortunate enough to have his GM link him up with two other stars, shut your old ass up

hes still the truth tho

didn't paul pierce's teams go nowhere for a decade until his gm got a perennial mvp contender for a song from an old teammate and picked up another annual all-star (and the best shooter in the league) the same summer. hmm.

oh i see kevin pointed this out whatever

>:|

hes still the truth tho

― 6 god none the richer (m bison), Thursday, October 13, 2016 11:47 PM (four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

(i do not support his KD take but some shit is forever and he has a life pass to mouth off wildly for eternity imo)

boston power moves 2k7 was the trend-setter for sure, kd going to gsw just the logical endpoint of that

i dont blame kd going to gsw to get open shots and play with ppl who consume a smaller amount of juice than russy westbrook. i just still think its boring and it sucks.

didn't paul pierce's teams go nowhere for a decade until his gm got a perennial mvp contender for a song from an old teammate and picked up another annual all-star (and the best shooter in the league) the same summer. hmm.

― Clay, Thursday, October 13, 2016 11:48 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

back2back ecf w toine show some respect

http://www.sonicsrising.com/2016/10/13/13264264/multiple-sources-nba-expansion-seattle

fwiw

back2back ecf w toine show some respect

― lag∞n, Thursday, October 13, 2016 9:11 PM (two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

that's fair and i totally forgot about it and also that antoine walker was legit good and not a total joke for awhile there

one thing that was NOT good and NOT NOT a total joke for a while there was the eastern conference

the eastern conference was def an extremely high quality conference, one of the best two conferences easy

facts

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