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the thing is if you look at some of those drafts, the hornets kinda just got unlucky. nobody in that zeller draft was good, and the good players picked right after after vonleh (saric, zach lavine, nurkic) are not exactly franchise cornerstones.

the MKG pick is an underrated franchise killer tho. passed on brad beal, lillard and drummond. the kaminsky one also a borderline franchise killer. and i guess picking malik monk over donovan mitchell has a chance to look really, really bad. so i guess they did fuck up.

that trade is a fuckin insult j0rdy

― NBA YoungBoy named Rocky Raccoon (m bison), Monday, March 26, 2018 10:36 PM (five minutes ago) Bookmark

kemba and essentially 4 first round picks for kawhi is not *insane*

the sticking point for me is that malik monk might be bad

kawhi is a hoops angel tho

If they made that trade we could get the magical Kawhight pairing

i don't think rich cho suddenly got horrible at his job--it has to be really hard to run a team without a clear direction from ownership to aggressively chase titles. mj almost certainly intervened in the kaminsky pick and it seems like if anything their goal is to be in the respectable middle but they've missed that mark a couple times for various reasons.

thats...thats not magical. youre not even a real magician!!!!

xp

i think to be in the respectable middle you need one all star (last year's okc, indiana now, bucks, kawhi-less spurs, boogie-less pels) and they have zero

the thing is if you look at some of those drafts, the hornets kinda just got unlucky. nobody in that zeller draft was good, and the good players picked right after after vonleh (saric, zach lavine, nurkic) are not exactly franchise cornerstones.

the MKG pick is an underrated franchise killer tho. passed on brad beal, lillard and drummond. the kaminsky one also a borderline franchise killer. and i guess picking malik monk over donovan mitchell has a chance to look really, really bad. so i guess they did fuck up.

― J0rdan S., Monday, March 26, 2018 10:42 PM (five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

vonleh was chalk at that point in the draft--i didn't like him but plenty of informed people did. jury's out on monk, he has plenty of time to improve.

the mkg pick feels like something that might not happen in the draft today--last remnants of an old way of doing things or something like that.

How does anyone lose to the grizzlies at this point they aren’t even trying to win they’re rolling out like 7 g leaguers every night

i think to be in the respectable middle you need one all star (last year's okc, indiana now, bucks, kawhi-less spurs, boogie-less pels) and they have zero

― NBA YoungBoy named Rocky Raccoon (m bison), Monday, March 26, 2018 10:49 PM (fifty-eight seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

give the hornets brad stevens and kemba would waltz to an all-star. the talent is there, but the hornets aren't going to maximize it.

Bad coach, bad management, and a city that hasn’t cared for them since the early 90s.

ok

Would a team comprised of the 10 best currently injured players (suddenly magically healed) beat the 10 best currently healthy players?

they call me melo gelo (Spottie)
Posted: March 26, 2018 at 10:50:51 PM
How does anyone lose to the grizzlies at this point they aren’t even trying to win they’re rolling out like 7 g leaguers every night

Looks like Thibs played basically 6 guys. Why does he always grind his players to dust?

xp oooh i like that question

Basically the warriors plus boogie and jimmy buckets and gordo? Yah id take that team.

Plus Kyrie, kawhi..

Yah easy

give the hornets brad stevens and kemba would waltz to an all-star. the talent is there, but the hornets aren't going to maximize it.

― call all destroyer, Monday, March 26, 2018 9:52 PM (eight minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah tru

I guess kristaps would be #10?

the mkg pick feels like something that might not happen in the draft today--last remnants of an old way of doing things or something like that.

― call all destroyer, Monday, March 26, 2018 10:50 PM (yesterday) Bookmark

i remember john hollinger arguing at the time that MKG was the right second pick because his defensive potential meant his floor was really high, and i guess in a sense he was right... like MKG is a disappointment but he's not hasheem thabeet. but i feel like the way the league is now you wouldn't pick a guy that high whose shot was in that form (lonzo at least had good numbers in college). maybe josh jackson is testing my theory tho

caught some of the trey Burke highlights from last night and was like “huh when did AI play for the Knicks” for a second

def uncanny semblance

fultz hit some jumpers in the closing minutes last night

/r/nba has lost it and basically put up clips every shot he took

I literally had forgotten about fultz’s existence until a week or so ago and it’s kinda weird that they’re playing him at all this late but it’s probably good for his confidence to play 10 games or w/e at semi nba speed

apparently it was his call, he said he was ready to play

Clifford looked good 2 years ago but the team has fallen off pretty hard with roughly the same roster. they should be making the offs in the east with their current guys imo

i don't think they're a bottom 10 org tho. would put them closer to the middle

they should have beat the heat in that series a few years ago but marvin williams missed 150 three pointers and they faced a wade who had just stepped out of a time machine. they would have lost to toronto so i don't think it would have mattered either way, but that team was pretty good. i don't think i've seen the hornets play a full game this year so idk how much of it is clifford but just looking at the roster.. but when you're surrounding kemba w/ marvin, batum, dwight, kaminsky, jeremy lamb and MKG that just seems like a roster construction problem that idk how you would solve, especially offensively you have a dynamic offensive player surrounded by guys who are decent at best.

i'd believe that the hornets are a bottom 10 org. you can make all sorts of front office and coaching and roster changes but if you have an owner who doesn't know what he's doing then that's a permanent debilitation (shoutout james dolan). what do the hornets want to be as a team? what kind of players do they value? why? what's their system? what kind of players would succeed for them but fail in other places? why? how do they acquire those players? all these sorts of questions can be answered by/for good orgs and for the hornets i have literally no idea what you would say to any of those kinds of questions.

otm

its kinda funny that the famously competitive michael jordan is a disinterested impulsive owner

hornets are last in turnovers every year so that's something i guess

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAdj-suA4Zs

man I love the NBA

jokic: so good at a very underrated part of defense. quite bad at the guarding other people part

that miles 3 with jokic on the bench a good example of his defensive value. he's in the game and he gets that board 90% of the time

poeltl just destroying the nuggs now lol

wow jokic blowing some key rebounds 2 nights in a row

league pass alert blazers pellies

brow started limping late in the third for no discernable reason, where's matt

absurd game

cavs getting run off the floor by the heat. lebron just had a hilarious reaction to jordan clarkson not hitting rim on a pull up 3 int transition

i haven't spent much time with the heat this season but they are a lot of fun when they're rolling

blazers have played a few playoff-caliber intensity games in the past couple weeks and it has me pretty amped for the 'offs

jason terry starts for the bucks?

i haven't spent much time with the heat this season but they are a lot of fun when they're rolling

― call all destroyer, Tuesday, March 27, 2018 10:22 PM (twenty-one minutes ago) Bookmark

yeah i've watched more heat games this year than any since the bron era. more often than not they're just a little too limited against great teams, but the style of play can be intoxicating.

Spoelstra has learned how to coach. Having Riley as a mentor probably helped.

really bad year for whiteside tho