let jalyen and gordon goon out with the second unit, find some sort of form
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 18:23 (five years ago) link
btw its literally unbelievable how good marcus m has been this season
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 18:29 (five years ago) link
a second unit featuring jaylen, terry, gordon and aron should be able to destroy most teams' first units. then again, so should the actual current first unit. somewhere between now and the 2020 playoffs someone's going to figure out how to make all these pieces fit together.
― fact checking cuz, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 19:39 (five years ago) link
it's sad to consider that there might be a different coach figuring these things out not too long from now
― k3vin k., Wednesday, 28 November 2018 20:01 (five years ago) link
the celtics have 3 days off in a row this should be illegal
― ciderpress, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 20:03 (five years ago) link
Bad Stevens
lol
― k3vin k., Wednesday, 28 November 2018 20:03 (five years ago) link
― fact checking cuz, Wednesday, November 28, 2018 2:39 PM (twenty-nine minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
feel doing this is a start since it gives both units more of a clear offensive hierarchy, which the lack of was an obvs problem, like kyrie is #1 jayson and morris are 2a & 2b, and and al and smart are more facilitators/scorers in the flow type guys
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 20:11 (five years ago) link
then with the second unit jaylen and gordon dont have to worry so much about finding their spots they can just go out there and "be aggressive"
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 20:12 (five years ago) link
this can also be boiled down to simply letting the best 5 guys play together. beyond positional fit they are just having the best seasons so far.
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 20:13 (five years ago) link
yeah def, and finishing lineups can be situational, and if jaylen and gordon really start lighting it up obvs theres room to give them more minutes/put them back in starting
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 20:14 (five years ago) link
also theres just a temperament/style of play thing thing, think i mentioned this before, where the starting lineup was all deliberate heady skill guys and the bench unit was emotional swarming goons, and maybe its better to mix that up
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 20:16 (five years ago) link
btw i thought of a way to explain marcus smart to the nation: small draymond
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 20:27 (five years ago) link
― ciderpress, Wednesday, November 28, 2018 1:03 PM (twenty-four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
simple but perfect lol
― Spottie, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 20:29 (five years ago) link
brad is nice!
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 20:29 (five years ago) link
very nice, apparently too nice to coach egos. shame really.
― Spottie, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 20:35 (five years ago) link
everyone just needs to be nice like brad
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 20:36 (five years ago) link
in all seriousness tho every celtic except marcus morris started off the season looking like they just took a very long nap and theyve started to get on track one by one kyrie al and jayson are all doin stuff now i think its headed in the right direction
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 20:39 (five years ago) link
also worth noting the celtics have had the hardest sched in the league played a ton of road games etc, all the computer rankings still like them (tho not at a champ level)
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 20:40 (five years ago) link
i still think theyll be fine but we gotta get these jokes off in the meantime
― Spottie, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 20:45 (five years ago) link
yeah i feel confident theyll reach a level of fineness, but really they need to get it to clicking if they wanna make some noise
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 20:46 (five years ago) link
also imo there are legit concerns about brads offense, some sort of mini kerr type drama, like why really fuck w all this ball and player movement when u cld just destroy teams by running the kyrie/al pnr 50 times a game
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 20:48 (five years ago) link
they cld use a second very attacking ballhandler too tbqh
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 20:49 (five years ago) link
started to get on track one by one
have had the hardest sched in the league played a ton of road games etc
how does the knicks game fit into this theory?
― fact checking cuz, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 20:51 (five years ago) link
rozier has been legit awful. i checked his stats cos it seemed like he had such a good season last year but dude still shot 39% yikes.
― Spottie, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 20:52 (five years ago) link
yeah hes not a good scorer, can hit a catch and shoot 3 but is hopeless driving, just cant find makable shots inside the arc
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 20:53 (five years ago) link
also continually does that horrible thing where he gives up on a drive when he has a half a step on his guy
great defender tho
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 20:54 (five years ago) link
this is true! it's also the sequel to mr bungle iirc
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 28 November 2018 20:54 (five years ago) link
― fact checking cuz, Wednesday, November 28, 2018 3:51 PM (two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
as a single game idk
they shoulda sold high last season after he had all those trip dubs when kyrie went down. im sure they could bamboozle the suns still tho.
― Spottie, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 20:54 (five years ago) link
terry is dannys son tho so he cant trade him
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 20:58 (five years ago) link
btw noticed in the kyrie/smart configuration theyre using kyrie off the ball a bunch to get him looks on the move going toward the basket and it seems promising, smart is low key an excellent distributor which i dont really understand since teams dont actually have to guard him, but i guess its just they do guard him anyway, and tbf he can kinda hit an open shot/take an open lane if u give it to him and hes always going to be opportunistic so he doesnt make finding the right balance of guarding him and not guarding him easy
i mean, they're going to finish november having beat exactly two teams with winning records in the entire month. i'm not ready to admit they've done anything remotely resembling turning their season around yet.
― fact checking cuz, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 21:01 (five years ago) link
tho tbf the knicks game does fit a pattern of them just getting wrecked by attacking guards even ones as lowly as trey burke, hopefully inserting smart into the starting5 will help with this
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 21:02 (five years ago) link
id prob be a little more surprised at them continuing to play at a throughly mediocre level than running off ten in a row, but i guess neither wld really surprise me
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 21:03 (five years ago) link
i mean theres prob a large aspect to their play so far thats just everyone randomly slumping at the same time, and then there are some real issues that need addressing too, but i mean theyve got the talent to be an elite team and in the nba talent usually wins out
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 21:06 (five years ago) link
(xp) yeah, neither would surprise me either. but for now i think i have to side with the "when someone shows you who they are, believe them" faction.
― fact checking cuz, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 21:06 (five years ago) link
srsly tho if u look at kyrie, jayson, als game logs u can see them picking it up theyre all playing much better than at the start of the season
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 21:07 (five years ago) link
jaylen/gordon/terry still need to get it going tho
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 21:08 (five years ago) link
― lag∞n, Wednesday, November 28, 2018 3:58 PM (eight minutes ago)
what if this is finally the team that breaks danny and he gets all setimental and can't trade terry or hayward
― k3vin k., Wednesday, 28 November 2018 21:10 (five years ago) link
climb almost all the way to the mountain top only to turn back lol
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 21:11 (five years ago) link
fwiw imo trading stars who signed with you as a free agents is a bad look if you want to continue signing guys like that, tho itd prob be forgivable to trade gordon if he never really gets on track and its part of some blockbuster to get brow or whoever
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 21:14 (five years ago) link
btw brow is putting up mvp level numbers and the pelicans are playing 500 ball
https://i.imgur.com/844BCke.png
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 21:25 (five years ago) link
tbf his shooting % isnt really at mvp level but thats indicative of playing on a bad team
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 21:26 (five years ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/hDwTe6r.png
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 21:29 (five years ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/nOHADKF.png
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 21:31 (five years ago) link
btw celtics cant trade for brow until the offseason when kyrie opts out of his contract and resigns due to a rule against having two supermax contracts that youve traded for or some shit
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 21:40 (five years ago) link
not sure why brow would want to go to another 500 team in the weak conference
― k3vin k., Wednesday, 28 November 2018 21:40 (five years ago) link
however he should trade himself to the denver nuggets