His relationship with general manager Jerry Krause soured because Krause and Chairman Jerry Reinsdorf limited his playing time to seven minutes per half when he finally returned, as not to endanger the franchise’s most valuable asset.
Ok now I remember this always being cited as the start of the MJ/Krause friction. Seems like an odd thing to be THAT upset with someone over. The nerve of this guy, trying to protect the team's superstar and not have him play big minutes in a meaningless season coming back from a major injury! Totally understandable for MJ to then loathe him for eternity amirite.
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Monday, 20 April 2020 20:31 (four years ago) link
My earliest MJ memories are of him coming back and having that minutes restriction and it was SO FRUSTRATING as a lil dude who just wanted to see this spectacular basketball man do stuff.
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Monday, 20 April 2020 20:32 (four years ago) link
the minutes-restriction thing is another thing that would get totally different coverage these days. imagine explaining "the process" to 22-year-old MJ lol
― edgard varese-type beat (voodoo chili), Monday, 20 April 2020 21:25 (four years ago) link
michael jordan became the dominant athlete of all time because his dad made fun of him for not knowing a lot about tools— john wilmes (@johnwilmeswords) April 20, 2020
― lag∞n, Monday, 20 April 2020 22:48 (four years ago) link
granny, they show the specific "7 minute per half" game that got the bulls into the playoffs where jordan gets sat on the last shot and michael is STILL pissed about it
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 20 April 2020 23:01 (four years ago) link
i found that oakley slapping pippen around sequence, trying to imagine reddick trying this shit on zionhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSNno0nBxMI
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 20 April 2020 23:03 (four years ago) link
rookie or not, no one would have slapped around Wilt
― A is for (Aimless), Monday, 20 April 2020 23:06 (four years ago) link
lol there is a slight size difference between jj and zion xp
― edgard varese-type beat (voodoo chili), Monday, 20 April 2020 23:59 (four years ago) link
charles oakley would def slap the shit out of zion in the present day if he felt like he needed to
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 21 April 2020 00:07 (four years ago) link
oak was for real lol
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 21 April 2020 01:06 (four years ago) link
https://nypost.com/2017/01/10/charles-oakleys-legendary-slap-of-charles-barkley-confirmed/
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 21 April 2020 02:30 (four years ago) link
i can't make out who the color guy is in the clip at the bottom of that article but lol at him claiming oak was going for the ball as he did a full wrestling move on barkley
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 21 April 2020 02:44 (four years ago) link
pals
Must see TV tonight — my friend THE #GOAT!!!! #TheLastDance — 9pm EDT on @espn. #jordan #michaeljordan pic.twitter.com/eat4IUtyi4— Charles Oakley (@CharlesOakley34) April 20, 2020
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 21 April 2020 02:47 (four years ago) link
They did end the minutes restriction as soon as the playoffs started, which is evidence they cared more about the draft pick than protecting MJ's health.
― fatuous salad (symsymsym), Tuesday, 21 April 2020 03:10 (four years ago) link
If the 97-98 Bulls were happening today there would be a large segment of NBA Twitter saying Krause was right to want to blow it up and trade Pippen for future assets and let Jordan walk for cap space.— Sean Highkin (@highkin) April 20, 2020i do think this is true and i bet there were even ppl at the time defending it on these grounds. it's not wrong to say that if the phil/MJ/pippen core had continued after they beat the jazz the second time they had max... 2 more years? that would have been pushing into beyond unprecedented territory basically. the end was definitely near one way or another and i agree in hindsight it's easy for there to be more uproar when the fatigue has long since dissipated
― J0rdan S., Monday, April 20, 2020 1:47 PM (eight hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
you dont break up a championship team nothin more to say about that
― lag∞n, Monday, April 20, 2020 2:59 PM (seven hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
yeah agree with this. there would be some people defending krause (think about that in hindsight...) but I think history teaches us that it's really hard to climb that ladder from contender to champ, and if you're within sniffing distance you push your chips in.
this is really good btw and it's a legitimate crime against humanity that they're making me wait another week to watch 2 more episodes
― k3vin k., Tuesday, 21 April 2020 03:27 (four years ago) link
this discussion is reminding me that the cavs wouldnt trade kevin love and the draft pick that became collin sexton for paul george lol
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 21 April 2020 03:31 (four years ago) link
iirc at the time the headline was just "jordan retiring" like the behind the scenes stuff wasnt widely known
― Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 21 April 2020 04:05 (four years ago) link
A painful irony that I think people forget is that Krause and MJ both passed on Pau Gasol and essentially doomed their careers as GMs.
― Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 21 April 2020 04:08 (four years ago) link
really thought this would have more swearing but perhaps they're saving it for later episodes
― blame it on the modelo (slothroprhymes), Tuesday, 21 April 2020 15:21 (four years ago) link
yeah it ramps up with each episode. here's a sneak peak of the final episode: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBqdNhY3pf0
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 22 April 2020 16:25 (four years ago) link
one can dream tbh
― blame it on the modelo (slothroprhymes), Wednesday, 22 April 2020 17:15 (four years ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EWN6oZ8WoAE80FX?format=jpg&name=900x900
sexi bois
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 22 April 2020 18:40 (four years ago) link
so, uh, eps 3 to 8 leaked
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Saturday, 25 April 2020 01:47 (four years ago) link
oh???
― k3vin k., Saturday, 25 April 2020 01:55 (four years ago) link
finally caught up with 1 and 2soooo good wow
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 25 April 2020 01:56 (four years ago) link
that's cool but i'm perfectly happy to have a plan for sunday night for the next 3 weeks
― call all destroyer, Saturday, 25 April 2020 01:56 (four years ago) link
where can I find it?
― k3vin k., Saturday, 25 April 2020 02:21 (four years ago) link
T0rr3ntz my friend
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Saturday, 25 April 2020 03:02 (four years ago) link
damn what is this 2006?
― k3vin k., Saturday, 25 April 2020 03:56 (four years ago) link
I won't see it til it comes to Netflix in July so please, no spoilers.
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Saturday, 25 April 2020 04:05 (four years ago) link
Turns out Dennis was the friends we met along the way
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Saturday, 25 April 2020 05:07 (four years ago) link
the bulls won the title man. congrats
― k3vin k., Saturday, 25 April 2020 06:18 (four years ago) link
First episode was great. There are all sorts of good Jordan stories coming out with this documentary.
I think the best two I heard that were new to me was John Calipari talking about a game early in his run with the Nets when Kerry Kittles as a rookie went for 15 in the first quarter against the championship Bulls. Jordan kept staring down Coach Cal in the break between quarters holding up a "o" with his hand over his eye. Pretty much they switched off with Jordan on Kittles for the rest of the game and he did not score a point for the remainder of the game.
The other one was that the Portland GM called Bobby Knight for his feelings on Michael Jordan stating they really need a center, Knight said draft Jordan and just play him at center as it did not matter, he was that good.
― earlnash, Saturday, 25 April 2020 12:35 (four years ago) link
according to the latest issue of Time, episodes 9 and 10 are still being finished remotely.
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Saturday, 25 April 2020 19:16 (four years ago) link
yooooo this is great! and the music choices! Partyman for 1989 Jordan! Maestro for 98 Rodman! Jerry Krause doing the running man to Kool Moe Dee!
Contemporary Horace Grant calling the 91 Pistons "straight bitches" had me applauding in my living room.
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 27 April 2020 06:09 (four years ago) link
FYI: if 1 is Jordan and 2 is Pip, 3 is Dennis and 4 is Phil. I expect episode 7 to be jud buechler's time to shine
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 27 April 2020 06:10 (four years ago) link
my takeaway from this is that it takes 30 years before guys are willing to talk shit about each other on the record
― call all destroyer, Monday, 27 April 2020 15:17 (four years ago) link
jordan's derision for isiah is just awesome
Y’all be tweeting me mad at me like I was tryna hurt Jordan lol— Isaiah Thomas (@isaiahthomas) April 27, 2020
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 27 April 2020 16:09 (four years ago) link
Horace looks bigger than Malone
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 27 April 2020 16:19 (four years ago) link
Ron Harper's "Fuck this bullshit" about putting Ehlo on MJ for the last shot was hysterical.
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 27 April 2020 16:21 (four years ago) link
ehlo did "force" (i mean its only 3 seconds) him to hit a tuff shot & basically double clutch to get it up
― johnny crunch, Monday, 27 April 2020 17:05 (four years ago) link
ehlo was a perfectly reasonable choice to defend jordan he was long athletic moved well made jordan make a sick shot etc, harper wldve prob been a fine choice too, trapping him mightve been better all things considered, btw i remember where i was when "the shot" happened, it was at applebees
― lag∞n, Monday, 27 April 2020 19:11 (four years ago) link
Bill Simmons: Dennis Rodman is NOT an interesting person. Never has been, never will be. Also Bill Simmons: Please read my 12,000 world column about the one time me, J-Bug and Sully played the Addams Family slot machine at Vegas and talked about The White Shadow.— CogginToboggan (@CogginToboggan) April 27, 2020
― lag∞n, Monday, 27 April 2020 19:27 (four years ago) link
still made at rodman for saying bird has white privilege lol
― lag∞n, Monday, 27 April 2020 19:28 (four years ago) link
*was a silly thing for rodman to say abt someone who just beat his ass but still
― lag∞n, Monday, 27 April 2020 19:29 (four years ago) link
Ehlo is fine choice to defend MJ but not if you also have Ron Harper on your roster
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Monday, 27 April 2020 19:52 (four years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0dllCe-D80
Bird looks...athletic? Quicker than I ever remember him being.
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Monday, 27 April 2020 19:55 (four years ago) link
q: how is it that in 1987 Dave Corzine was 22 yrs older than me, I've aged 33 yrs since then, and his 1987 self still looks 22 yrs older than me??
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Monday, 27 April 2020 19:56 (four years ago) link
bird was really slowed down by a bad back at the end of his career, he was never a high flyer but he cld move around the basketball court before the injuries set in
― lag∞n, Monday, 27 April 2020 20:01 (four years ago) link
was really too bad what shouldve been the second half of his prime became his serious decline
― lag∞n, Monday, 27 April 2020 20:06 (four years ago) link
!!
― k3vin k., Wednesday, 14 July 2021 12:20 (three years ago) link
Lol
― pure rim rest (Spottie), Wednesday, 14 July 2021 14:37 (three years ago) link
I got that cologne for Xmas lol. Don't remember that commercial at all tho.
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 14 July 2021 15:24 (three years ago) link
same. dont think i ever finished the bottle
― pure rim rest (Spottie), Wednesday, 14 July 2021 15:28 (three years ago) link
GO INSIDE
― Yours in Sorrow, A Schoolboy: (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 14 July 2021 17:57 (three years ago) link
that always makes me think of this Snickers ad:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojXMu6V7E5g
― EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 14 July 2021 20:11 (three years ago) link
Muresan is fifty now which makes me feel crazy old.
― Yours in Sorrow, A Schoolboy: (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 15 July 2021 06:22 (three years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chbPp2tifWI
Great "and I took that personally" game. I can't find the details but Gerald Wilkins apparently told the media before series began that he would lock down MJ. "Tough night for the Jordan stopper" MJ said after the game.
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Saturday, 17 July 2021 17:54 (three years ago) link
1hr33min mark color commentator Jack Givens speaking on Wilkins waking the beast
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Saturday, 17 July 2021 17:58 (three years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=US7VFL9cXTk
― think “Gypsy-Pixie” and misspelled. (We are a white family.) (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 25 August 2021 21:27 (three years ago) link
thanks. whoa @ scottie pippen going full walter white?!
― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 25 August 2021 21:53 (three years ago) link
that video is well worth the watch btw; Luc seems like a really decent guy
― think “Gypsy-Pixie” and misspelled. (We are a white family.) (forksclovetofu), Friday, 27 August 2021 04:39 (three years ago) link
plus an unedited half hour with Michael talking about Longley!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q27fAO1emHM
― think “Gypsy-Pixie” and misspelled. (We are a white family.) (forksclovetofu), Friday, 27 August 2021 04:51 (three years ago) link
a rare nice storyhttps://www.nba.com/news/a-brother-his-family-and-michael-jordan-reflecting-on-9-11
― think “Gypsy-Pixie” and misspelled. (We are a white family.) (forksclovetofu), Friday, 10 September 2021 19:44 (three years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tE04vlw90_s
― i cannot help if you made yourself not funny (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 12 May 2022 19:11 (two years ago) link
He’s amazingly charismatic and sharp, just a natural.
― daBobo (PBKR), Thursday, 12 May 2022 19:57 (two years ago) link