The Last Dance: In Praise of One Lone Gold Hoop Earring

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oak was for real lol

lag∞n, Tuesday, 21 April 2020 01:06 (four years ago) link

i can't make out who the color guy is in the clip at the bottom of that article but lol at him claiming oak was going for the ball as he did a full wrestling move on barkley

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 21 April 2020 02:44 (four years ago) link

pals

Must see TV tonight — my friend THE #GOAT!!!! #TheLastDance — 9pm EDT on @espn. #jordan #michaeljordan pic.twitter.com/eat4IUtyi4

— Charles Oakley (@CharlesOakley34) April 20, 2020

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 21 April 2020 02:47 (four years ago) link

They did end the minutes restriction as soon as the playoffs started, which is evidence they cared more about the draft pick than protecting MJ's health.

fatuous salad (symsymsym), Tuesday, 21 April 2020 03:10 (four years ago) link

If the 97-98 Bulls were happening today there would be a large segment of NBA Twitter saying Krause was right to want to blow it up and trade Pippen for future assets and let Jordan walk for cap space.
— Sean Highkin (@highkin) April 20, 2020
i do think this is true and i bet there were even ppl at the time defending it on these grounds. it's not wrong to say that if the phil/MJ/pippen core had continued after they beat the jazz the second time they had max... 2 more years? that would have been pushing into beyond unprecedented territory basically. the end was definitely near one way or another and i agree in hindsight it's easy for there to be more uproar when the fatigue has long since dissipated

― J0rdan S., Monday, April 20, 2020 1:47 PM (eight hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

you dont break up a championship team nothin more to say about that

― lag∞n, Monday, April 20, 2020 2:59 PM (seven hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

yeah agree with this. there would be some people defending krause (think about that in hindsight...) but I think history teaches us that it's really hard to climb that ladder from contender to champ, and if you're within sniffing distance you push your chips in.

this is really good btw and it's a legitimate crime against humanity that they're making me wait another week to watch 2 more episodes

k3vin k., Tuesday, 21 April 2020 03:27 (four years ago) link

this discussion is reminding me that the cavs wouldnt trade kevin love and the draft pick that became collin sexton for paul george lol

lag∞n, Tuesday, 21 April 2020 03:31 (four years ago) link

iirc at the time the headline was just "jordan retiring" like the behind the scenes stuff wasnt widely known


My memory of the whole sitch was a lot of focus on Phil, the Jerry-Phil relationship. But the whole season was treated as Jordan’s final season from the start, which seems like it wouldn’t have happened if Krause was driving it all. MJ needed a break.

Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 21 April 2020 04:05 (four years ago) link

A painful irony that I think people forget is that Krause and MJ both passed on Pau Gasol and essentially doomed their careers as GMs.

Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 21 April 2020 04:08 (four years ago) link

really thought this would have more swearing but perhaps they're saving it for later episodes

blame it on the modelo (slothroprhymes), Tuesday, 21 April 2020 15:21 (four years ago) link

yeah it ramps up with each episode. here's a sneak peak of the final episode:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBqdNhY3pf0

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 22 April 2020 16:25 (four years ago) link

one can dream tbh

blame it on the modelo (slothroprhymes), Wednesday, 22 April 2020 17:15 (four years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EWN6oZ8WoAE80FX?format=jpg&name=900x900

sexi bois

lag∞n, Wednesday, 22 April 2020 18:40 (four years ago) link

so, uh, eps 3 to 8 leaked

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Saturday, 25 April 2020 01:47 (four years ago) link

oh???

k3vin k., Saturday, 25 April 2020 01:55 (four years ago) link

finally caught up with 1 and 2
soooo good wow

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 25 April 2020 01:56 (four years ago) link

that's cool but i'm perfectly happy to have a plan for sunday night for the next 3 weeks

call all destroyer, Saturday, 25 April 2020 01:56 (four years ago) link

where can I find it?

k3vin k., Saturday, 25 April 2020 02:21 (four years ago) link

T0rr3ntz my friend

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Saturday, 25 April 2020 03:02 (four years ago) link

damn what is this 2006?

k3vin k., Saturday, 25 April 2020 03:56 (four years ago) link

I won't see it til it comes to Netflix in July so please, no spoilers.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Saturday, 25 April 2020 04:05 (four years ago) link

Turns out Dennis was the friends we met along the way

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Saturday, 25 April 2020 05:07 (four years ago) link

the bulls won the title man. congrats

k3vin k., Saturday, 25 April 2020 06:18 (four years ago) link

First episode was great. There are all sorts of good Jordan stories coming out with this documentary.

I think the best two I heard that were new to me was John Calipari talking about a game early in his run with the Nets when Kerry Kittles as a rookie went for 15 in the first quarter against the championship Bulls. Jordan kept staring down Coach Cal in the break between quarters holding up a "o" with his hand over his eye. Pretty much they switched off with Jordan on Kittles for the rest of the game and he did not score a point for the remainder of the game.

The other one was that the Portland GM called Bobby Knight for his feelings on Michael Jordan stating they really need a center, Knight said draft Jordan and just play him at center as it did not matter, he was that good.

earlnash, Saturday, 25 April 2020 12:35 (four years ago) link

according to the latest issue of Time, episodes 9 and 10 are still being finished remotely.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Saturday, 25 April 2020 19:16 (four years ago) link

yooooo this is great! and the music choices! Partyman for 1989 Jordan! Maestro for 98 Rodman! Jerry Krause doing the running man to Kool Moe Dee!

Contemporary Horace Grant calling the 91 Pistons "straight bitches" had me applauding in my living room.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 27 April 2020 06:09 (four years ago) link

FYI: if 1 is Jordan and 2 is Pip, 3 is Dennis and 4 is Phil. I expect episode 7 to be jud buechler's time to shine

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 27 April 2020 06:10 (four years ago) link

my takeaway from this is that it takes 30 years before guys are willing to talk shit about each other on the record

call all destroyer, Monday, 27 April 2020 15:17 (four years ago) link

jordan's derision for isiah is just awesome

Y’all be tweeting me mad at me like I was tryna hurt Jordan lol

— Isaiah Thomas (@isaiahthomas) April 27, 2020

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 27 April 2020 16:09 (four years ago) link

Horace looks bigger than Malone

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 27 April 2020 16:19 (four years ago) link

Ron Harper's "Fuck this bullshit" about putting Ehlo on MJ for the last shot was hysterical.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 27 April 2020 16:21 (four years ago) link

ehlo did "force" (i mean its only 3 seconds) him to hit a tuff shot & basically double clutch to get it up

johnny crunch, Monday, 27 April 2020 17:05 (four years ago) link

ehlo was a perfectly reasonable choice to defend jordan he was long athletic moved well made jordan make a sick shot etc, harper wldve prob been a fine choice too, trapping him mightve been better all things considered, btw i remember where i was when "the shot" happened, it was at applebees

lag∞n, Monday, 27 April 2020 19:11 (four years ago) link

Bill Simmons: Dennis Rodman is NOT an interesting person. Never has been, never will be.

Also Bill Simmons: Please read my 12,000 world column about the one time me, J-Bug and Sully played the Addams Family slot machine at Vegas and talked about The White Shadow.

— CogginToboggan (@CogginToboggan) April 27, 2020

lag∞n, Monday, 27 April 2020 19:27 (four years ago) link

still made at rodman for saying bird has white privilege lol

lag∞n, Monday, 27 April 2020 19:28 (four years ago) link

*was a silly thing for rodman to say abt someone who just beat his ass but still

lag∞n, Monday, 27 April 2020 19:29 (four years ago) link

Ehlo is fine choice to defend MJ but not if you also have Ron Harper on your roster

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Monday, 27 April 2020 19:52 (four years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0dllCe-D80

Bird looks...athletic? Quicker than I ever remember him being.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Monday, 27 April 2020 19:55 (four years ago) link

q: how is it that in 1987 Dave Corzine was 22 yrs older than me, I've aged 33 yrs since then, and his 1987 self still looks 22 yrs older than me??

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Monday, 27 April 2020 19:56 (four years ago) link

bird was really slowed down by a bad back at the end of his career, he was never a high flyer but he cld move around the basketball court before the injuries set in

lag∞n, Monday, 27 April 2020 20:01 (four years ago) link

was really too bad what shouldve been the second half of his prime became his serious decline

lag∞n, Monday, 27 April 2020 20:06 (four years ago) link

I'm hoping this doc delves into 80s MJ. 90s Bulls in general has been covered to death, & his style of play was a lot more fun to watch when he was young. Feel like ppl who weren't around at the time think of him as post-up fadeaway guy, end of story.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Monday, 27 April 2020 20:06 (four years ago) link

yeah I felt so bad when Larry was having to lie down instead of sit on the bench. Basketball fans were robbed of some good years from him and Magic. Then you got MJ missing 1.75 seasons in his prime...

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Monday, 27 April 2020 20:08 (four years ago) link

young jordan was so much better than fade away jordan

lag∞n, Monday, 27 April 2020 20:09 (four years ago) link

granny, we're basically already out of the 80's in the timeline; that's covered in the first two episodes. Episode 4 is the first championship.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 27 April 2020 20:10 (four years ago) link

I'm writing my Senator!

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Monday, 27 April 2020 20:19 (four years ago) link

In college he never stopped moving; catches a pass on the move and either continues his momentum or immediately changes directions and makes a move to the hoop. 1st few years in NBA, he has the ball more at start of possessions, games are longer, pro style is different so he slows down sliiiightly. Then comes Fade Away Jordan, and he hardly ever seems to run apart from transition game.
There's almost no high school footage that I've seen, but I assume he's just a blur out there.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Monday, 27 April 2020 20:23 (four years ago) link

yeah i think the rest will be 90s only. loved the first 4 eps so far, there's been a few nuggets of stuff I havent heard. really fun watching with my wife who knows next to nothing nothing about any of it. the footage is awesome tho, love that quirky peak behind the curtain stuff like that little "the Sniffs" snippet. would be cool if the nba was pushing out the full games/series that are being referenced like the week following the episode release. would love to watch some of these games that they're just glossing over. really tho this is making me itch for more deep dives like this on old teams or bigtime players.

Spottie, Monday, 27 April 2020 20:28 (four years ago) link

the bad boys 30 for 30 covered a lot of the pistons stuff

Spottie, Monday, 27 April 2020 20:29 (four years ago) link

for all the very reasonable worries that michael was going to sanitize this, he comes off as a flaming asshole then and now! Lots of gambling references too! Let's see how they handle the first retirement.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 27 April 2020 20:41 (four years ago) link

thanks. whoa @ scottie pippen going full walter white?!

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 25 August 2021 21:53 (three years ago) link

that video is well worth the watch btw; Luc seems like a really decent guy

plus an unedited half hour with Michael talking about Longley!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q27fAO1emHM

two weeks pass...
eight months pass...

He’s amazingly charismatic and sharp, just a natural.

daBobo (PBKR), Thursday, 12 May 2022 19:57 (two years ago) link


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