CELTICS 2010

yeah trading smart would be....... audacious

kemba jalen jayson gordon williams would be basically impossible to score on tho

Hollinger in the Athletic:

How Aaron Gordon to Boston could work
So … Sam Amick put out the bat signal for some cap analysis Monday night on this possible Orlando-Boston trade (scroll below), and I am here to oblige.

A deal that sends Marcus Smart to Orlando for Evan Fournier and Aaron Gordon is, indeed, possible cap-wise because Smart’s salary is enough to offset Gordon’s, and Fournier fits into Boston’s massive $28 million trade exception from the Gordon Hayward trade. In fact, the Celtics would still have $11 million left over on their exception after taking in Fournier.

However, a better way for Boston to execute this deal would be include the minimum salaries of Javonte Green and Carsen Edwards along with Smart. Including Green would send out a $1.5 million salary the Celtics would otherwise end up having to waive, while having no impact on the $18.1 million trade exception that the Magic would generate for Gordon. And in the absence of any other moves, including Edwards’s $1.5 million becomes necessary to keep Boston below the hard cap.

One other piece I expect to come up, if it hasn’t been already, is a Khem Birch-Tristan Thompson swap as part of any Gordon trade with Boston. Birch has an expiring deal worth $3 million, while Thompson makes $9.7 million next season. Birch and Fournier for Smart and Thompson is clean cap-wise and actually generates an additional $6.7 million trade exception on Boston’s side.

The biggest issue with the Celtics trading for Gordon and Fournier is that Boston is likely to be about $25 million over the luxury tax line if they add Gordon and re-sign free-agent-to-be Fournier and would go further over if they re-sign Daniel Theis. Including Thompson in the trade would cut the number nearly in half and make this whole thing far more palatable from Boston’s end.

Alas, Orlando probably isn’t jonesing to pay Thompson $9.7 million next year either. Such a move would leave the Magic themselves just $10 million from next year’s tax line, and their first-round pick would soak up much of that room. Basically, it would make the Gordon traded player exception irrelevant because they wouldn’t be able to use it, and likely rob the Magic of using their full midlevel exception too. The Magic would need that money to sign a 3-and-D wing after losing Gordon and Fournier. Additionally, Thompson would be another potential roadblock to playing time for 2018 lottery pick Mo Bamba.

All told, I’d bet against Birch and Thompson being in this deal, but I’d be shocked if Boston didn’t broach it.

Finally, one more Orlando-Boston wrinkle: The Celtics should look really hard at setting up this deal as an extend-and-trade with Fournier. (For that matter, they could extend Gordon right now too, but he can get more years if he waits till the summer.) Locking in Fournier at something around his current number of $17.1 million would reduce a lot of the risk in this deal for Boston and have no impact on the Magic.

kemba jalen jayson gordon williams would be basically impossible to score on tho

― lag∞n, Tuesday, March 23, 2021 11:51 AM (three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

hypothetically they should be good defensively now tho lol, but gordon is a better fit at the 4 defensively than the jays and could play some mini ball 5

It would definitely be tough to see Marcus go. I don't really want to think about it if I don't have to, he's the exemplar extraordinaire of the Celtics Mindtype. But it's not a crazy trade if, like in the example above, the picks are fully lottery protected. Danny can't draft for shit anymore in the back half of the 1st round anyway.

Fournier is only 28, thought he was older. He needs to embrace the 6th man role for it to work, but if he does that, I'm warming to the idea

also I might be crazy but I feel like there was a point back in the day when people thought Khem Birch might be a player? Can't be that much of a step down from Thompson as a 3rd big

i mean according to b-ref he compares favorably to greg stiemsma so

hypothetically they should be good defensively now tho lol

and yet the grizz scored 1 billion points in the paint last night give or take. it's maddening.

not having to watch thompson attempt to play basketball would be a huge relief

maybe they can trade brad

i cant believe Bad Stevens became real

i enjoy watching marcus so much that i can't really be reasonable about trading him, especially to the fucking Magic

the Magic are experts at not knowing which of their players are actually good so if Marcus gets stuck there hopefully they move him on to somewhere else quickly

I could see him being fun on any number of teams but jesus, orlando might as well be sacramento

yeah wld be more respectful to trade him atlanta

not saying it wld be a mookie betts sized pr debacle to trade him but whatever is not quite as big

lol https://twitter.com/search?q=marcus%20smart

celtics could conceivably trade smart to the hawks for collins + bogdan and then get gordon for draft picks and whoever

that might be too many guys tho

its annoying that the TPE isnt combinable with players from the point of view of constructing elaborate trade machine compositions

something like this except with a player who is like prince but better than prince and then trade for gordon too

https://i.imgur.com/iSVq7O6.png

but on the other hand if the celtics are willing to trade smart why not get og anunoby

“An NBA executive, watching from afar when it comes to the Gordon sweepstakes, says he’s not the only name the Celtics are chasing. If he was, the deal would be done.” https://t.co/nOBEu4Hjkx

— Chuck M. (@RedsArmy_Chuck) March 23, 2021

does aaron gordon have the ‘celtics mindtype’

not really

This high school player called out Brian Scalabrine to a 1v1 and put his shoes on the line 😳

(via joshlopesss/Instagram) pic.twitter.com/hMZiJRsaRp

— SportsCenter (@SportsCenter) March 23, 2021

Report: Talks with Magic for Gordon ‘still alive,’ but unlikely to include Smart https://t.co/TGV1ixu3Zm

— The Celtics Wire (@TheCelticsWire) March 24, 2021

langford or nesmith in the a comparable deal instead of smart? ok, fine

just hope ainge playing hardball doesn't leave the c's empty-handed

pretty sure nothing will happen because people are tired of dealing with danny

that was alluded to in one of the articles

Middleton destroying the Celtics, as he does

got it close but atrocious execution on the last 3-4 possessions which is becoming a trademark of this team

you ain't lying

Hi @celtics fans,
If you're not familiar with me, please Google my last name.
You're welcome.
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— Evan Fournier (@EvanFourmizz) March 25, 2021

^ maybe do that with images off btw

rob defending giannis really well!

tacko on the other hand lol

rob was messing with a 5x5 tonight

The Boston #Celtics have put a full-court press on signing Andre Drummond. He is leaning towards #Lakers, but Boston has made up a lot of ground the last 24 hours.

— Evan Massey (@massey_evan) March 27, 2021

sounds competitive

im torn on one had he will take robs starting spot on the other we will never have to see tristan play again

hate the idea of drummond starting over rob

same, but on the other hand having him anywhere ahead of tristan is a pretty huge upgrade

haha ok nice normal

Evan Fournier will not make his debut tonight because he’s in health and safety protocols, per the Celtics.

— Jay King (@ByJayKing) March 27, 2021

i'm just gonna say it--the game changed tonight when they put luke kornet in

and the stats will back me up because they literally went on a 19-0 run when he checked in

kornet is definitively ahead of tristan in the celtics center rotation now

i joke but he was playing great! active, staying vertical on defense, he can shoot and move the ball a bit.

definitely more of an exemplar of what they like to do at center than tristan.

made a nice pass hit back to back 3s got a block got a steal

there's a stevens quote floating around about how they had been intrigued by his pick and roll defense for a while?? i just assumed by rep that he was one of those dudes who is too slow to really defend much.

they're doing a postgame interview with him and he is insanely sweaty.

watching him move around his feet literally looked heavy