CELTICS 2010

not really clear on "what theyre trying to do" scheme wise but so far at least its not clicking

it's looked very bad at times, they need a real point guard

yeah theres not a lot of playmaking talent on the roster

i guess the hope was that marcus would rise to the occasion and he has responded by, in my estimation, sucking ass

not to mention complaining to the media

theyre not really using horf in the way they should

not to mention complaining to the media

the self-own of the point guard complaining that no one is creating plays is... interesting.

rough stuff, not great

It's been all downhill for Marcus since he shat upon the legacy of John Adams

lol marcus is a good passer/pick and roll guy but he just doesnt have the driving ability to be the primary ball handler

definitely, and i don't even think he needs to be the every-down back so to speak. but he's just doing.....nothing.

he has been bad, and he could easily just start playing better along with a bunch of their other players

does seem like tatum is getting brain fog on the catch trying to be more of a playmaker, they should just let him cook imo

developing a new orlando magic theory from this game

tatum focused too much on getting yoked imo

tbf getting yoked is pretty sick

lol wendell carter trying to take horf in the post

developing a new orlando magic theory from this game

― ciderpress, Wednesday, November 3, 2021 8:44 PM (three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

lets have it

Boston has a tricky problem to solve where Tatum isn't looking to pass in iso, but also they aren't running backside actions to give him a kick out option. Makes it even easier for the defense to load the paint on him. Guess this wasn't solved at the player's only meeting.

— Jared Weiss (@JaredWeissNBA) November 4, 2021

doesnt seem that tricky

no and it doesn't quell any concerns that they aren't really running an offense right now

this is not a good looking team at the moment and watching them beat up on orlando didn't make them look any better

in simmons most recent pod he said one of the trades he wanted to see over the offseason was some formulation that netted the celtics lonzo for marcus smart, haven’t looked into how you’d make that work asset wise but seems like a pretty good fit

eh idk feels pretty sideways, anyway they cant trade marcus this season cause they extended him so late

i have heard that marcus does not have much of a market out there, and that was before the extension

lonzo shoots high 30s from 3 on volume and is a better playmaker than marcus, also a sick defender, might even have the celtics mindtype

also 3 years younger

lonzo is actually pretty bad playmaker fwiw, his numbers in pick and roll are way worse than smarts

ultimately theyre both not great offensive players tho lonzo is prob better due to shooting and transition play, idk hes a useful player but has huge holes in his game dont love him

and hes not really a solution if youre wanting a point guard

there really arent many all around solid point guards huh

they can't all be like the lil bastard

for weeks now brad has been like 'this team is trash so we gotta, um ,hustle, and that's how we're going to win GO GET EM CELTICS' and first of all i'd be a little insulted if i'm one of the starters? and second of all they seem better than they were last year depth wise? i don't know it just seems like the talent is there but there's no gameplan

yeah hopefully its just some flukiness and adjusting to a new coach and scheme and not the much worse possibility of the coach and scheme being bad

tho udoka is a 1st time head coach so hes prob going to have some growing pains regardless

celtics 2-0 and +30 since team meeting

players only meeting is key to nba success

fascinating watching tatum down the stretch in that game, he was ice cold and decided to resolutely draw the defense and kick out. got it back a couple times and got key buckets in the process. i'm sure he was frustrated but i liked the style of play.

yeah he needs to to more of those quick hits and kickouts hes been holding the ball like crazy this year

definitely, and even when he held it a few times and i thought he was going to take a tough shot, he waited for the defenders to come and moved it to someone with a clean look. again it can't be fun to play that way, but he's going to face a shitload of multiple defender situations given how this team is composed and those passes will be there.

nesmith, langford, and schroder had massive double digit plusses on the plus/minus tonight which imo tells a lot about how they won this game

yeah those guys were all very active doin stuff

they forced a ton of turnovers in the 2nd quarter

heat seemed to be on tilt after the first few times

marcus having a rough start to the season

Brutal final 30 seconds for Marcus Smart against the Mavs. On top of the bad foul to give on Doncic, he also missed Boston's final shot with 30 seconds left while trying to draw a foul on Porzingis, throwing up unneeded low quality shot since Boston was already in penalty.

— Brian Robb (@BrianTRobb) November 7, 2021

tatum did seem to remember than you can just do something as soon as you get the ball tho which is cool, team in general seems to be playing not terrible anymore, got back in a scheduled loss without jaylen after being down big

richardson also finally had a good game, tho i remain a sceptic

hes one of those guys that kind of just always looks bad out there, he moves around sloppy like his shoes are too big

yeah not impressed by his shooting form either

lol ok

JAYLEN BROWN COME ON DOWN.

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— Victor Williams (@ThePhillyPod) November 8, 2021

"would have to include"

i value what shams and woj do, but if you're gonna engage in exclusively access journalism you have to contextualize which teams are writing your copy

eh i guess that's clear from the wording, it's just an absurd thing to put out there. like why even report it. "any potential Simmons deal with the Mavs would have to include Doncic" etc